Now is the 7th of April & my employer still didn't pay my salary. I tried calling them & sending them SMS but no reply. It's like they are ignoring me on purpose.

Shall I report this to labour office?

This is not Kopitiam, this is SERIOUS Kopitiam. Please refrain from putting sarcastic/non-helpful answers that wastes time

did you signed employment letter? your employer is a legit company?

if yes, then plis go report them

call hr or boss 1st

yes, I have employment letter & I worked there for more then 10 years.

they are a consulting engineer firm.

i tried calling them already but nobody pick up. I also send sms many times but no reply.

try to look for labour department any seek their advice.

i already draft a letter & i am prepared to email my complaint to labour office.

Wait another few days

and what shall i do if i still don't hear anything from my office or get my salary after a few days?

Do that

This post has been edited by Captain89: Apr 7 2020, 02:46 PM

Talk to your hr first before you report to labour dept.

This post has been edited by bronkos: Apr 7 2020, 02:49 PM

1st - get a lawyer (Few thousand)
2nd- Then write to your boss
3rd- Wait......2 to 6 years ! Good luck !

do you check with other colleagues? do they got the salary?

I just checked my EPF account online & i saw that they paid money into my account for this month but they never call or say anything to me about my salary.

are they trying to be funny or what?

i am the only employee in my company.

i tried to call & sms many times but no reply.

then it's hard for you to proof ur point to the labour dept. if u have epf deposited.
best for u to seek clarification from hr first.

Maybe go further, try reach out to your colleagues, ask if they face the same situation.

u the only one? no one else working there?

the only other one working there is the boss daughter aka admin/hr.

it's practically a 1 man show company.

Doesn't seem like a shady business. How can the business go bust just by not operating for 1 month? Was the company already heavily in debt before MCO? If it is, then possible due to cashflow problem. Do contact your HR or boss directly. Report to labour dept as a last resort.

what a tough situation. leave a voice msg. to them hope they will reply to you soon

that's the problem. I can't reach them at all. all my calls are not answer & no reply to my sms.

It is a fact. If you want to take this to the labor department, your relationship with the company is severely hampered. You only do this if you are seeking compensation and leave. If you cannot accept the truth, don't post at all

wah... difficult like that... if know house maybe can go knock and ask...

I guess it's a small/ new company?
Both of you run that company

true, report to labour is usually last resort. after all, she has been working there for years so it's unwise decision.

i don't think the company is in debt before the MCO. i think they are trying to be funny & they don't want to pay my salary because of MCO.

they asked me to report for work on 18 March but I did not do so & just told them that I was ordered to return home by the police because of the MCO.

Just be upfront with your boss.

1. "May I know when will the salary be in the bank?"
2. "Seek your clarification if there is any lateness or hiccups in salary payment, if I need to justify to you?"
3. It has been late (how many days), I urgently need the salary for my monthly commitment. I shall seek help from Labour dept if this continues (give deadline). Seek your utmost attention on this matter.

Tell your boss/company your intention to report if they still ignore you.

Show them police report order together with complaint letter

Gosh so u are the one being funny first. There were no police road block on 18 March..

Anyway i guess u just have to wait until 15 April go back office.

Btw interesting what company only 1 employee ?

i don't have any police report. i just quote what the media was saying that it's an offence to break the MCO under the disease prevention act & the police act to them.

You job falls under non-essential rite. You have the right to complain then

i already told them about my intention to report but they still ignore me.

yes my job is non-essential. it's under the construction sector.

Just that I'm curious. You and your employer run a construction company? You said you don't have colleague

then you shall proceed with the report and wait for the result.

anyhow, an employer still have to pay your salary.

Please get ready with your evidence:
1. Picture of roadblock from your house to office
2. Orange zone/red zone at your area (if any)
3. You did your daily report/work. There's production/progress.

Boss may argue back saying you refuse to come to work,
or you didn't inform what you did/work from home.
Or, the boss may come up with sudden term/contract saying no work no pay basis.

It would be nice if you can think of how your employer may react, so that you can prepare yourself..

the company is an consulting engineer firm. the boss is the engineer. his daughter the admin & i am the draftsman.

i used to have 2 other colleagues with me but they left for higher pay.

Why dont u just go to your employer house?

If you company is non-essential, then your company can be sued for asking you to come to work during MCO.

so they did that just to make it hard for me to proof to labour office that they did not pay me my salary, is it?

Today is 7th
By law, u should receive salary by today
Mayb wait till 6pm

my company don't bank in salary online like other modern companies.

they still using cheques to pay my salary.

So are u expecting them to bank in the cheque directly to your account?
Did they even know your bank account number?

yes, that's my thought. how long have you been working in this company?

more then 10 years.

usually who bank in cheque?

usually the admin girl will just pass the cheque to me & i bank in myself.

i am been trying to contact them for the past few days about this, but no reply from them.

Try search some NGO that helps employee first. No need find lawyer.

if you report, they would say, they prepared the cheque for you, but u didnt collect the cheque.

they cant deposit for you, blabla...

so u will need to wait til 15th april, or you go to your boss house now.

If the office is closed during MCO, then maybe wait until office reopen again... especially since they have to hand you a physical check for your salary.

10 years is really long. You dont have to worry.
Just wait till the office opens, then seek clarification from him or his daughter and be polite when you do it.
Now is employers market, they are spoilt with choices who to recruit.

ok, i will wait until the MCO is over & go back to the office & see if they pay me or not.

if they don't or give me some lame excuse then only will i report to labour office.

Since they pay epf, I believe they will pay u salary

How did you approach them?
You said you been working there for years.
So I assume the relationship should be pretty solid.

If you ask, boss how do I get my salary for this month? How do I get my cheque? I am left with RM 50 for my kids only. Sob Sob Sob. Please help.

Or if you ask like this:
Oi boss, It is already 7th of the month. Where is money?
Dont try to be funny ok? Moodin said you should pay.

i don't know where my boss house lives & even if i knew, I can't go out because of the MCO.

i will just wait like till the MCO is over like you said.

Not that big matter need lawyer? Just about salary canbe easily solved

i asked politely. i did not ask like a samseng.

TS, when you join the company, U did sign some offer letter or agreement right? Did the agreement indicate anything like if company closed due to some issue (example MCO), company have the right to no pay u salary. do double confirm on it ya.

TS, its not wrong to report. But before you report, please make sure that you are ready to lose your job (worst case).

Because normally when you report something against the company, its similar to you burning the bridge. Of cos, this depends on how your boss and company look at you. If they are ok, then everything is ok.

Just make sure u think carefully before reporting.

I guess you can consider this constructive dismissal and owing one month's pay. It's sad that an employer will choose to do this to his employee who has been with him for 10 years but you get all types. After MCO you can go to his office to chase for your last month's salary but I don't think you still have a job.

Are you a mech, elec or civil drafter? You can change to doing freelance and work from home.

If your salary is above RM5K, it is pretty not possible for labour office to help you. If this is the first time they fail to pay your salary, you probably better check with them first before taking any action such as constructive dismissal.

What the fff. Do you have knowledge of your company financial situation b4 covid?

me also same.but i ask HR they say need to restart back only pay....now using saving

I don't know about labour office, but as typical /k i need to deal with IR dept. you don't even need a lawyer and they can settle everything less than a month. you only need a lawyer when the IR dept can't decide. in this case, it's a clear cut the company is in the fault.

more than 10 years with employer, I believe relationship shouldn't be bad. It's definitely your boss is playing the game since you're trying to reach them for few days but no reply. It's either the company having really bad time or they are upset you didn't reporting-in on 18th.

like most of the /ktard suggestion, wait till the MCO then get your answer directly from boss. Go directly to labour department if you're ready and willing to lose your job.

Is his job worth keeping if he can't get his salary?

Can labour office do a thing? if not mistaken pay above 2000, they can't do much. Maybe can try Jabatan Perhubungan Perusahaan Malaysia (JPPM).

Any how, why don't you use another new number to call your boss/hr.. Just to check whether they are really avoiding you.

Sorry to hear about your plight.
Check properly, cos Feb pay deduct for 03/20 contribution.
Read more: https://www.kwsp.gov.my/employer/contributi...-responsibility
Example:
Salary for January 2018
Therefore, the Contribution Month is February 2018 and it has to be paid either before or on 15 February 2018.
The employer needs to pay both the employees’ and the employer’s share to the EPF. Employers may deduct the employee’s share from their salary.

See if this helps.
https://loanstreet.com.my/learning-centre/e...t-paid-malaysia

This post has been edited by TiramisuCoffee: Apr 7 2020, 07:00 PM

My employment letter never said anything about no salary if company closed.

my salary only RM2.3K. so can still ask labour office to help, right?

i am trying to check with them, but they don't reply back to me.

i think they upset i didn't report in on the 18 March. thanks for your advise.

i am elec drafter. if i don't have a job anymore, then i have nothing to lose by reporting my idiot employer to the labour office, right?

maybe ur boss's family got a problem you dunno, you never cared about him only care about your money. already feed you for 10 years, now late a week only already want to report, somemore you are the only staff.

Then you slow2 wait because confirm extend at least till the end of the month one.

btw already 10 years, late 1 week want to report to the authority. haih.

no need lawyer la this kind of case. Ministry of human resource can settle but take a long time only.
Since he already said use cheque, and the boss cannot go out, then how to give the cheques? TS told the boss if go out will kena tangkap liao. I am sure the boss will pay him the salary 1 la after mco lifted.

This post has been edited by uamcy: Apr 7 2020, 08:53 PM

Feel you sister.. just yesterday there was a thread on how average salary by 30 yo is 10k. /k really live in different reality.

You work for MORE THAN 10 YEARS and your salary is RM2.3K?
Are you serious?

Why you didn't find other jobs that can get higher salary in the construction industry?

Man, even people that working in Customer Service and Retail industry can higher salary than your job as draftsman.

It's not too late if you want to find another job. I have 1 ex colleague that working in the company for more than 10 years but recently just resigned and got another job because she wants to get out from her comfort zone

This post has been edited by xpole: Apr 7 2020, 09:08 PM

Report your boss and company to Govt authority ..... if Govt cannot do or did not do anything means our Govt useless lor.....

Friend, you say they are still giving you the cheque, during this MCO how to give you cheque. Don’t be selfish and ask people risk their life go find you give you cheque.

Yup, still can try...

This post has been edited by salya: Apr 8 2020, 01:32 AM

Don't jump into conclusion that fast and label govt useless

There are so many problems going on now, thousands of SME are going down, some lost their jobs due to reduction in employees, using their own saving. Govt also got many things to do

iits totally legit to call on the cops for this as theyre gatheriing data for the people who got gamed by theiir company at the same time

i am not selfish. i just ask for info about my salary, like will i be paid after the MCO or not.

like that also they don't want to give me an answer.

Prepare for the worst, your salary might got burned, suggestion is stop working until you get your paid

Next, start looking for new job as well, looking at the situation now, many companies closed down, so you better find a backup now

This post has been edited by Cy016: Apr 8 2020, 05:57 AM

You could grasp how they operate & behave when dealing with payments. Use your time to evaluate & speak to those in dealings with them. It would be useful to speak to the Labour Office & Perkeso because their advises carry weight in terms of intermediating & prosecuting. Hope it won’t come to that. Anyway, the knowledge gain could be beneficial.
On the perspective side...there are those who are in midst of applying, pending approval & respond after the Prihatin Plus announcement. Some delay is foreseen since subsidized salary is a better option. The initiative to send a piece of cheque isn’t impossible during MCO with standard mail service or Grab Express.

They paid ts epf
Don't think they will run

I think they paid the epf to comply.
It shows that they paid your salary and not raise the RED flag to KWSP.
The EPF payment is like buying time to evaluate the situation.

Employees would not just jump to the labor office within 1-2 months.

1. They protect cash flow, by holding your salary.
2. They check with relevant authority, news, and loopholes to see if they can avoid paying your salary.
3. They waiting for any support from the government.
4. They waiting to see if still possible to continue the business.

If they can still continue the business, chances are they will pay the salary after you get back to work.
Or maybe a reduced salary.

If they can't continue, they just close shop and NOT pay your salary.

Obviously, they wouldn't pay now because the downside is on them.

Can but since the employer have paid your EPF, probably it is good to attempt to contact them for another few days to clarify the matters. Probably it is an oversight.

Is the office open to visit?