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 owner experience owning a peugeot 508, need some owner feedback on peugeot 508

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post Apr 3 2020, 09:38 PM

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QUOTE(ayamxxx @ Apr 3 2020, 02:02 PM)
Well depend on how much u willing to spend on. For me a brand new car suit my purpose, the warranty helps me from any unplanned problem. My brother in law meanwhile buy a 6 or 7 year old E Class Diesel back then with airmatic suspension. Last year he spend about rm14k for the airmatic alone, but worth it as he love keep the car as his 2nd car. If it on me, i will trade in and lazy to pump money on old car with many potential problems.

Related to 508, the 1.6T engine need to make sure if it already cw upgraded parts by Peugeot SC. As they are some design flaws which make the engine not reliable at all, but MOST (100%?) are resolved via upgraded parts.

If i were u, better get a 508 Diesel which are more reliable, less headache on engine parts. Cons, hard to get on market.
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After starting this thread I think I will avoid Peugeot all together bro . Not many diesel sedans in malaysia to choose from. I certainly don’t mind driving a used diesel car , heard the low end torque is pretty addictive . Do you have any diesel sedan to recommend ? Appreciate it

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post Apr 3 2020, 09:43 PM

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QUOTE(kenshin9271 @ Apr 3 2020, 09:34 PM)
It sounded like they don’t really know what they are doing .
Or they trying to boost part sales perhaps to hit target ?
I’ve read some on forum saying their service as improved over the years , but I guess not from the sound of it
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If improved meaning from 2/10 to 5/10. I guess thats improvement to them hahaha.
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post Apr 4 2020, 10:40 AM

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QUOTE(kenshin9271 @ Apr 3 2020, 12:23 PM)
Thanks for the advise smile.gif the 408 with improved engine is the one launched in April 2015 right ?
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The improved Prince engine,code name EP6CDTM, was launched in 2012 with 408thp.

2016 further improvements were made - EP6FDT/EP6FTDM

408ethp was launched with engine in 2016.

I doubt you'll find any used 508 with this engine. Whilst Peugeot was winning European Car of the year awards with their new models, Naza just killed all new models in Malaysia!

My advice, get the 508 if you want it. Have to spend a bit of time on maintenance. 408thp would be a better choice! Forget SC, most ppl have probelms with Peugeots cos they stuck to SC religiously! There are very good Pug workshops in Klang Valley!
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QUOTE(kenshin9271 @ Apr 3 2020, 09:38 PM)
After starting this thread I think I will avoid Peugeot all together bro . Not many diesel sedans in malaysia to choose from. I certainly don’t mind driving a used diesel car , heard the low end torque is pretty addictive . Do you have any diesel sedan to recommend ? Appreciate it
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No reason to avoid Peugeots. Instead avoid Peugeot SCs! All monkeys & customers have gone back frustrated , some cases with additional problems. There are a few excellent Pugs workshops in Klang Valley!

2016 308 & 3008 were cars of the year in Europe! Peugeot France production could not keepup with demand in Europe! In Malaysia 308 was a total flop, 3008 sold miserably, Naza's marketing & sales achivement!

If diesel is your cup of tea, you'll love 508GT. This a diesel, but may be hard to find used onces. Not many sold in Malaysia!
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post Apr 4 2020, 11:30 AM

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life is short. have test driven the 407 previously and it's a joy to drive. the 508 shouldn't be any less enjoyable. join the owners fb group and seek more opinions there. as what others mentioned, there are reliable workshops out there that can service and maintain peugeot vehicles better than naza.
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post Apr 4 2020, 09:58 PM

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QUOTE(cedyy @ Apr 4 2020, 10:30 AM)
life is short. have test driven the 407 previously and it's a joy to drive. the 508 shouldn't be any less enjoyable. join the owners fb group and seek more opinions there. as what others mentioned, there are reliable workshops out there that can service and maintain peugeot vehicles better than naza.
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Thanks ceddy and SKYjack for the input.
I actually met a seller which participated in the recall program and fortunate enough to have major parts changed and covered by sc :engine, Turbo, High Pressure Pump and Aircond set.
I guess that will make it a really good bargain? that would have costed a big bomb.
priced quite reasonably too < 35k. what do you think guys? I have joined their fb group too and diligently reading through their comments haha




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QUOTE(kenshin9271 @ Apr 4 2020, 09:58 PM)
Thanks ceddy and SKYjack for the input.
I actually met a seller which participated in the recall program and fortunate enough to have major parts changed and covered by sc :engine, Turbo, High Pressure Pump and Aircond set.
I guess that will make it a really good bargain? that would have costed a big bomb.
priced quite reasonably too < 35k. what do you think guys? I have joined their fb group too and diligently reading through their comments haha
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looks like a great deal if compared to asking price on mudah and carlist. if both parties are agreeable and you're happy with the car condition, why not?
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post Apr 5 2020, 12:36 AM

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QUOTE(cedyy @ Apr 4 2020, 10:50 PM)
looks like a great deal if compared to asking price on mudah and carlist. if both parties are agreeable and you're happy with the car condition, why not?
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yeah it is a private seller, I guess a new engine installed last year does really sweeten the deals a plenty and put a substantial amount nightmares behind. Also, I would go to private sellers anytime than dealers. Hows the customer experience of getting back to these reliable workshop like for regular servicing and repairs if any? level of satisfaction? able to solve most of your issues? Highly appreciate if any kind gentlemen can share some insight smile.gif
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post Apr 5 2020, 07:16 AM

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Got both a 2011 Peugeot and 2012 vw at home. The Peugeot goes in and out of the workshop every month without miss.. The VW only goes to workshop every 5-7 month once for repairs..

For D segment just get the passat, way better drivetrain than the prince engine and aisin gearbox combo on the pug..

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post Apr 5 2020, 11:19 AM

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QUOTE(kenshin9271 @ Apr 4 2020, 09:58 PM)
Thanks ceddy and SKYjack for the input.
I actually met a seller which participated in the recall program and fortunate enough to have major parts changed and covered by sc :engine, Turbo, High Pressure Pump and Aircond set.
I guess that will make it a really good bargain? that would have costed a big bomb.
priced quite reasonably too < 35k. what do you think guys? I have joined their fb group too and diligently reading through their comments haha
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Thats very good price. As for recalls, you are also entitled to any future ones and foc! Just email NAZA customer service and they'll tell you latest recalls for your model.

My advice on this model, decarbo every 50Kkm. Engine is different version than 408thp. Recommend Renautech and Bros Auto for all service and any work!


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post Apr 5 2020, 11:29 AM

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QUOTE(Boy96 @ Apr 5 2020, 07:16 AM)
Got both a 2011 Peugeot and 2012 vw at home. The Peugeot goes in and out of the workshop every month without miss.. The VW only goes to workshop every  5-7 month once for repairs..

For D segment just get the passat, way better drivetrain than the prince engine and aisin gearbox combo on the pug..
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This kind of review is needed for TS b4 he made a decision. To goes in & out from workshop is really a big task especially when need a tow trucks even covered under insurance.


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QUOTE(kenshin9271 @ Apr 3 2020, 02:42 PM)
It does seemed to offer more in terms of equipment , ride and handling and looks good for its price ,just not sure about its reliability. I guess there must be a reason why is it’s RV is way lower than its peers.
Based from the feedbacks from gentlemen here , seems like a bad choice
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And that reason is most likely reliability.
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QUOTE(ayamxxx @ Apr 5 2020, 11:29 AM)
This kind of review is needed for TS b4 he made a decision. To goes in & out from workshop is really a big task especially when need a tow trucks even covered under insurance.
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Yes many times the time taken to wait for towtruck by the side of the road is much longer than the repair itself
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post Apr 6 2020, 01:08 AM

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QUOTE(kenshin9271 @ Apr 3 2020, 12:41 AM)
Greetings to all peugeot 508 car owners and sifus' out there,

I'm thinking of getting a used peugeot 508 launched in year 2012 model.

<a href='https://<link removed>/2012/06/18/peugeot-508-relaunched-now-with-five-variants-including-hdi-diesel-and-sw-wagon-from-rm159k/' target='_blank'>2012 peugeot 508</a>

I see most are selling around 30-40 k currently, which is quite affordable for a well spec D segment car. However, my biggest concern is the reliability of this car. I have read quite substantially about this car from forums and reviews, and those issues faced by Peugeot owners especially those older model has casted some doubt upon me to get this car.
I really appreciate valuable input from car owners and anyone with experience on this car to share with me their input. hows the reliability of this car in general? hows the after sales service by nasim at present? how affordable to own this car compare to others in its class?
what's the common issue with this car?
Thank you very much all, have a great day everyone biggrin.gif
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Currently own 2 Pugs. A 508 GT SW which I bought last year, 3 years old and done 30k had a great deal on it as it was a former diplomatic corp car. I haven't had any issues with it other than finding out to replace the rear bumper cost a king's ransom and am still waiting for it after 3 months of a Myvi crashing into it. The diesel ones are far more reliable than the petrol ones and can be run on B10 with no issues according to the previous owner. This car replaces a 2018 Kia Sportage GT that was sent to car heaven when it met head on with a Proton Iriz that was 9 days old.

The other Pug we own is a 3008 that just turned a year old. Its done 32k now and I've not had a single issue with it. I was quite torn between buying this, an X70 and a Mazda CX-5 2.2d but in the end bought this as I had a good deal on it.

You asked about diesel cars and I can tell you this Peugeot 508 is one of the best diesels you can buy out there for under RM60k. The next best diesel car is the Mazda6 but those don't come cheap and are even rarer in the market. There was a time Ford sold a Focus with the TDCI but it is equally rare as well.

If you are into the idea of big and cheap cars and don't mind cars that are 7-10 years old I would recommend a Ford Mondeo but don't get the one with the PowerShift gearbox. An extremely entertaining car to drive and you definitely get lots of car for the money.




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post Apr 6 2020, 03:43 PM

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QUOTE(Bjorn1688 @ Apr 6 2020, 12:08 AM)
Currently  own 2 Pugs. A 508 GT SW which I bought last year, 3 years old and done 30k had a great deal on it as it was a former diplomatic corp car. I haven't had any issues with it other than finding out to replace the rear bumper cost a king's ransom and am still waiting for it after 3 months of a Myvi crashing into it. The diesel ones are far more reliable than the petrol ones and can be run on B10 with no issues according to the previous owner. This car replaces a 2018 Kia Sportage GT that was sent to car heaven when it met head on with a Proton Iriz that was 9 days old.

The other Pug we own is a 3008 that just turned a year old. Its done 32k now and I've not had a single issue with it. I was quite torn between buying this, an X70 and a Mazda CX-5 2.2d but in the end bought this as I had a good deal on it.

You asked about diesel cars and I can tell you this Peugeot 508 is one of the best diesels you can buy out there for under RM60k. The next best diesel car is the Mazda6 but those don't come cheap and are even rarer in the market. There was a time Ford sold a Focus with the TDCI but it is equally rare as well.

If you are into the idea of big and cheap cars and don't mind cars that are 7-10 years old I would recommend a Ford Mondeo but don't get the one with the PowerShift gearbox. An extremely entertaining car to drive and you definitely get lots of car for the money.
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"cost a kings ransom" haha
sounds like the parts are really challenging to source. where do you usually source it from may I know? yeah, many gentlemen here would agree with you that its better to get the diesel one for reliability. however the diesel one very hard to find used one for sale. I cant take the nightmare of visiting workshop frequently, time wasted for towing and follow ups so the petrol version is a no no for me.

the ford mondeo version to avoid is this one right?
ford mondeo powershift

I'm also seriously considering ford focus tdci too. Read quite extensively about it and it seems many endorse it for its performance, ride handling, fc and reliability. managed to find some selling below 25k but of course by now it is already 10 years old. do you think its still a good buy despite its age? probably the best value diesel sedan one can buy in malaysia for now?


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QUOTE(Boy96 @ Apr 5 2020, 01:59 PM)
Yes many times the time taken to wait for towtruck by the side of the road is much longer than the repair itself
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yes, in this case I would rather drive a "boring" but get the job done car that get me from A to B any day,
than a "fun" car but gives me lots of headache. Thanks all for the advise smile.gif
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QUOTE(kenshin9271 @ Apr 6 2020, 03:47 PM)
yes, in this case I would rather drive a "boring" but get the job done car that get me from A to B any day,
than a "fun" car but gives me lots of headache. Thanks all for the advise smile.gif
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Which car are you going for? Peugeot?
Most local cars are good enough, if you want to get job done

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"cost a kings ransom" haha
sounds like the parts are really challenging to source. where do you usually source it from may I know? yeah, many gentlemen here would agree with you that its better to get the diesel one for reliability. however the diesel one very hard to find used one for sale. I cant take the nightmare of visiting workshop frequently, time wasted for towing and follow ups so the petrol version is a no no for me.

the ford mondeo version to avoid is this one right?
<a href='https://<link removed>/2011/03/09/ford-mondeo-2-0-ecoboost-powershift-short-drive/' target='_blank'>ford mondeo powershift</a>

I'm also seriously considering ford focus tdci too. Read quite extensively about it and it seems many endorse it for its performance, ride handling, fc and reliability. managed to find some selling below 25k but of course by now it is already 10 years old. do you think its still a good buy despite its age? probably the best value diesel sedan one can buy in malaysia for now?
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My 508 is still under warranty therefore it is brought back to NASIM for maintenance and repairs. The Sg Besi branch to be exact. I rate them fairly highly for their work but they are caught in a bit of a political storm as for many years they were used to dealing under the radar of a certain privilege but the last 2 years customs came down hard on them and it is part of the reason why parts are harder to come by through official channels. If I was willing to forgo the remaining warranty parts are much easier to source from various mechanics and most likely can be done within a few days.

The Ford TDCI engine is actually a Peugeot engine as well, during that era Ford and PSA jointly developed a family of diesel engines and some variants of it were used in a Mini as well. Also used in the London Taxi. There isn't any doubt that it is a very reliable engine and durable one too as many of them have also gone into light and medium sized vans as well. I would highly recommend this car but all of them are now more than 10 years old so it will be cash purchase as you won't be able to get financing on it through a bank.

The versions of the Mondeo to avoid are the ones with the 2.0l Ecoboost and Powershift, the 2.3l and the 2.0l Ecoboost after 2015 reverted to a standard torque converter automatic and are mostly reliable and just as fun to drive.
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QUOTE(Bjorn1688 @ Apr 6 2020, 03:34 PM)
My 508 is still under warranty therefore it is brought back to NASIM for maintenance and repairs. The Sg Besi branch to be exact. I rate them fairly highly for their work but they are caught in a bit of a political storm as for many years they were used to dealing under the radar of a certain privilege but the last 2 years customs came down hard on them and it is part of the reason why parts are harder to come by through official channels. If I was willing to forgo the remaining warranty parts are much easier to source from various mechanics and most likely can be done within a few days.

The Ford TDCI engine is actually a Peugeot engine as well, during that era Ford and PSA jointly developed a family of diesel engines and some variants of it were used in a Mini as well. Also used in the London Taxi. There isn't any doubt that it is a very reliable engine and durable one too as many of them have also gone into light and medium sized vans as well. I would highly recommend this car but all of them are now more than 10 years old so it will be cash purchase as you won't be able to get financing on it through a bank.

The versions of the Mondeo to avoid are the ones with the 2.0l Ecoboost and Powershift, the 2.3l and the 2.0l Ecoboost after 2015 reverted to a standard torque converter automatic and are mostly reliable and just as fun to drive.
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If reliability and followed by fun to drive and is my main area of interest here, between peugeot 508 gt and tdci ,can I say both is just as good?
Of course peugeot 508 gt has newer techs, more luxury interior, more elegant and executive look while tdci interior looks more dated and relatively plain in comparison , that is not very important to me. I'm quite happy with the package offered by tdci, which got most of the boxes checked, sufficient performance, good handling, fc, ABS, ESP, TCS and a reliable diesel engine. TDCI is half the price of 508 gt and I can purchase it with cash too.
Mondeo model after 2015 I rule out because I do not intend to spend that much for a car.

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