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Is ikan tilapia farm worth to invest?
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darth5zaft
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Mar 25 2020, 01:46 PM
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QUOTE(Emily Ratajkowski @ Mar 25 2020, 11:11 AM) Tilapia. I did not. I was the engineering side of things. Things like how to grow the fish and how to make the ponds etc under my jurisdiction. But even after you grow the fish, got to sell it. That one is not easy. The main problem is this: If you just want to farm and sell to midleman, then you must be very efficient because your profit margins will be razor thin. For example right now harga borong is RM14/kg. Means the middleman probably will buy from you at rm13 max. And that means you as farmer must have RM12 cost. Else you grow the fish for 6-8 months but can't even get rm1/kg profit. If you want to distribute as well, you better find some good sales people. Because restaurants don't like to have their stock interrupted. So they tend to stick to 1 vendor. If you just start out, you have to somehow compete with those fellas in the market for 20 years. A lot of goodwill to catch up on. Not to mention that middleman/distributors have to invest additional for storage of live fishes and buying lorry/hire staff to deliver. thought it was like rm5 per kilo for tilapia
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Emily Ratajkowski
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Mar 25 2020, 01:53 PM
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QUOTE(darth5zaft @ Mar 25 2020, 01:46 PM) thought it was like rm5 per kilo for tilapia depend on size. the one you talking about is grade c. Usually 500g below.
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SUSkeluarpattern
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Mar 25 2020, 01:54 PM
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QUOTE(Emily Ratajkowski @ Mar 25 2020, 11:11 AM) Tilapia. I did not. I was the engineering side of things. Things like how to grow the fish and how to make the ponds etc under my jurisdiction. But even after you grow the fish, got to sell it. That one is not easy. The main problem is this: If you just want to farm and sell to midleman, then you must be very efficient because your profit margins will be razor thin. For example right now harga borong is RM14/kg. Means the middleman probably will buy from you at rm13 max. And that means you as farmer must have RM12 cost. Else you grow the fish for 6-8 months but can't even get rm1/kg profit. If you want to distribute as well, you better find some good sales people. Because restaurants don't like to have their stock interrupted. So they tend to stick to 1 vendor. If you just start out, you have to somehow compete with those fellas in the market for 20 years. A lot of goodwill to catch up on. Not to mention that middleman/distributors have to invest additional for storage of live fishes and buying lorry/hire staff to deliver. Tq boss..you are big big saviour.... You r Mai man....
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Roman Catholic
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Mar 25 2020, 01:57 PM
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QUOTE(Emily Ratajkowski @ Mar 25 2020, 01:53 PM) depend on size. the one you talking about is grade c. Usually 500g below. Bro., how many Grades are there for tilapias and what is the weight range ? Also there are couple of varieties of tilapia which variety is the best for production ?
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Emily Ratajkowski
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Mar 25 2020, 02:08 PM
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QUOTE(Roman Catholic @ Mar 25 2020, 01:57 PM) Bro., how many Grades are there for tilapias and what is the weight range ? Also there are couple of varieties of tilapia which variety is the best for production ? 3 grade. c is for 500g below b is 700g below. A is 700g above. The best variaty one is the gift tilapia. But chinese people don't like black colour tilapia. There's a big foreign player in semenyih rearing this breed. Only for export. Local one all take the red tilapia.
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Roman Catholic
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Mar 25 2020, 02:18 PM
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QUOTE(Emily Ratajkowski @ Mar 25 2020, 02:08 PM) 3 grade. c is for 500g below b is 700g below. A is 700g above. The best variaty one is the gift tilapia. But chinese people don't like black colour tilapia. There's a big foreign player in semenyih rearing this breed. Only for export. Local one all take the red tilapia. Oh is this the same player who markets the fishes under the name TRAPIA ?
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Emily Ratajkowski
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Mar 25 2020, 02:22 PM
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QUOTE(Roman Catholic @ Mar 25 2020, 02:18 PM) Oh is this the same player who markets the fishes under the name TRAPIA ? yea
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Roman Catholic
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Mar 25 2020, 02:26 PM
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QUOTE(Emily Ratajkowski @ Mar 25 2020, 02:22 PM) Wah this operator must be damn big. Our ringgit no match against their currency liao. Then the baka-baka anak ikan for this foreign player all imported ke or local from our Fisheries Department ?
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SUSMondello
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Mar 25 2020, 02:28 PM
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Getting Started

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If some1 put poison in ur farm...how much u loss ah??
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leah235
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Mar 25 2020, 02:28 PM
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need to check water quality..... better you masuk kelas ... ada kelas and incentive from Perikanan
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Emily Ratajkowski
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Mar 25 2020, 02:29 PM
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QUOTE(Roman Catholic @ Mar 25 2020, 02:26 PM) Wah this operator must be damn big. Our ringgit no match against their currency liao. Then the baka-baka anak ikan for this foreign player all imported ke or local from our Fisheries Department ? sendiri in house one. they selective breeding over many generations. The meat is firmer, it grows faster and is bigger than usual. Same concept like chicken. Last time chicken takes about 2-3 month from chick to adult ready for consumption. Nowadays chicken just need 1 month from chick to adult.
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tokdukun
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Mar 25 2020, 02:30 PM
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QUOTE(Emily Ratajkowski @ Mar 25 2020, 11:53 AM) I can't remember the exact pricing I calculated last time. But back then we buy fish feed by lorry. The volume buy by tonnes. If I'm not wrong the feed that time was about rm40+ per 20kg bag. About 60% of your cost will come from buying fish food. As for reason I quit... Maybe ambition too big, money not enough. We wanted to farm and distribute ourselves. Coz profit margin much higher. But sales was low. And farming itself is no easy task. Each cycle takes about 6-8 months to reach acceptable size. Did you buy the feed directly from producer? Or the feeds are imported?
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leah235
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Mar 25 2020, 02:31 PM
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viole nah jual ikan haha
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viole
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Mar 25 2020, 02:37 PM
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QUOTE(leah235 @ Mar 25 2020, 02:31 PM) Jiken better. Lagi2 from vietnam
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Emily Ratajkowski
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Mar 25 2020, 02:44 PM
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QUOTE(tokdukun @ Mar 25 2020, 02:30 PM) Did you buy the feed directly from producer? Or the feeds are imported? had to buy through intermediary. feed is usually local. we have quite a few fish feed producers here with factories. If you buy big enough you can buy straight from producer. But you have to buy way too much. You talking about 10-20 tons per order. Unless you're a big farm, you usually cannot buy that much.
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invinciblevoice
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Mar 25 2020, 02:45 PM
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QUOTE(viole @ Mar 25 2020, 02:37 PM) Jiken better. Lagi2 from vietnam  Bro, MCO until 14/4, where got people go to jiken farm la dei. Now is worst time to open jiken farm.
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viole
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Mar 25 2020, 02:48 PM
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QUOTE(invinciblevoice @ Mar 25 2020, 02:45 PM) Bro, MCO until 14/4, where got people go to jiken farm la dei. Now is worst time to open jiken farm. jibai all jiken papaya farm all susah go.
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SUSkeluarpattern
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Mar 25 2020, 02:49 PM
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QUOTE(leah235 @ Mar 25 2020, 02:28 PM) need to check water quality..... better you masuk kelas ... ada kelas and incentive from Perikanan Hw cum u knw so much
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azbro
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Mar 25 2020, 02:49 PM
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Most are actually scams
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SUSkeluarpattern
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Mar 25 2020, 02:50 PM
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QUOTE(azbro @ Mar 25 2020, 02:49 PM) But why
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