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Home Networking Ditch ONU, use GPON SFP on Business Grade Router, 2.5G ONU for Unifi & Maxis, NO NEED VLAN

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post Sep 4 2025, 11:49 PM

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QUOTE(Anime4000 @ Sep 4 2025, 11:35 PM)
That's what been told my client ever since, many times,

issue only is, the place he choose is make Metro-E not reasonable, the transport charge cost RM4mil/year (without Internet access)

and building lease has deal can't terminate, so, I told him once lease is up, move to Cyberjaya in dark fiber coverage, then no problem, if he want 100G, also no problem.

for now, business need to begin, just face this jank for few years until lease expired.

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I suspect, last year, he get cheated by local vendor, now he putting his trust in me, so in good faith, I help him, what ever when he have networking decisions, he ask me to verify...

for now, need to suck it up and face the jank until building lease expired.

then he can move to Cyberjaya and use my friend Metro-E instead.

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Because PPPoE is jank, single core, aggregate like this can spread across 32 cpu cores (16 x 2)

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he understands that, at least reach 10G first...
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4 mil / year? This pricing is from who? Crazy!
Even for last year's 100gig submarine cable wavelength price from Los Angeles - Sydney is less than USD $60,000 per annum
SOS: https://blog.telegeography.com/wavelength-p...ference-circuit

What he need that 40gig for? Maybe just colo somewhere instead of running the workload in his current location.

With that pricing, better he apply for service provider license and apply ASN from APNIC. Then peer with MyIX. When he is already in AIMS, get his own IP transit.
If can do dark fiber or wavelength, it is the lowest cost compared to Metro-E.
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post Sep 8 2025, 09:49 PM

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QUOTE(Anime4000 @ Sep 8 2025, 06:57 PM)
first, data sovereignty, so, they create own cloud on-site

if create own ISP, what is the step?

if peer with MyIX, mean fiber connected to direct MyIX?
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To satisfy requirements for peering in MyIX, you need to register as a Network Service Provider with MCMC.

Come out with a network design so that you can request IP address block from APNIC.
Head over to APNIC and register for an ASN and IPv6 block.

For IPv4, you can buy address from someone else and transfer it to APNIC. The risk is that the IP block could be blacklisted due to abuse, so perform due diligence. After transfer of ownership, you must also fixup all the information and geo-location information so DNS server don't give your IP block some faraway server.
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Lease address from someone else. The risk with leasing is that the address owner can pull the address from you at any time, such as abuse report. So if you in turn lease the address to your tenant, such as VPS, then this is a risk you must keep in mind.

Meanwhile, look for someone to provide you wavelength or dark fiber to any of the MyIX data center. I don't know where's your location, you might need a dark fiber to the nearest POP, then wavelength from there. Or if you strike a long term deal with a hungry provider they might wavelength it all the way to your location.

Now once you are connected to AIMS:
If using dark fiber, you either colo a mux / demux there. Or host a full blown C/DWDM components.

If using wavelength, host a router there.

Peer with the route server. Shop for a transit provider and cross connect with them.

Run a NetFlow exporter and pipe all the data into software like Noction or akvorado
https://github.com/akvorado/akvorado

Look for top 10 ASN on a monthly basis and decide if you want to PNI with those people to save transit cost.

I don't know how big you want to go. Peering to Singapore might become inevitable.

The process is to find someone to do wavelength until the causeway. Find another someone to do wavelength from causeway to Equinix SG. What you host in Equinix SG follow the same logic as MyIX.
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Look at ASEAN Connect One. Maybe they can do it end to end for you.

Once your are in SG, evaluate your transit provider again as pricing might be better.

For human capital side, you need someone to oncalls 24x7 in case your BGP breaks someone's else network.
That someone should be also doing all your BGP configuration.

Come to NetFlow export, Mikrotik is not going to cut it. So Cisco is the only logical choice. Unless you want to skip this monitoring, which means you are literally flying blind.

You can use sFlow if you don't mind the accuracy and you will have more choices but still not Mikrotik. They won't be able to take the load.

Now if you use wavelength or even dark fiber, you also need to think about if your provider is snooping on your traffic. So MACSEC might be required depending on your security needs.

If you don't know where to start with all the network management, head to https://manrs.org/ and start here.

This list is by no means exhaustive. Just something that came to my mind right now.

This post has been edited by kwss: Sep 8 2025, 09:55 PM
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post Sep 23 2025, 12:03 PM

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QUOTE(Anime4000 @ Sep 23 2025, 09:25 AM)
No more pppoe, obtain via DHCP:
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How to setup? Just DHCP client over VLAN 500?
Looking forward to this!!
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post Sep 23 2025, 09:10 PM

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QUOTE(Anime4000 @ Sep 23 2025, 08:37 PM)
if you remember during Streamyx era, there Broadcom ADSL modem can do this.

I need to hook during PPPoE reconnect and down, this can be done quickly in OpenWRT.

if poc works, then Ubiquiti user will love it!
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Don't understand... Haha.
I will just wait for the script to see the steps...

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