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post Apr 15 2008, 05:19 PM

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QUOTE(edwardng9949 @ Apr 15 2008, 12:56 PM)
rollette, taisai, baccarat, all 50/50 games -- there is no sure pattern to sure win, otherwise casino will close. the basic is when you are 20% of your intended bankroll of your system you stop playing.  use martingale, never use flat bet,( flat betting is like surrendering your money to casino.) eg. 1,2,4,8=16units, if you use this system after winning 3-4 units
stop playing.  mind you, in less then 15mins you can win 3-4units, but becos of the journey to the casino, mentally
you are not prepared to stop playing. so you risk for more.  then you lose all .  incl your bankroll.  Stanley Ho, owner of
Lisboa.  said that many people fell for this simple human greed. so naturally you lose money eventually becos so many forces are in favour of the casino.
there is one system i called "System 16"  it is used in 1,2,4,8=16 martingale bets.  which means within 4 hands you must get a hit to win...you must prepare 16 pieces of separately cut paper of say 2 x 2 inch square.  each paper you label as follows:  BBBB,  BBBP,  BBPP,  BPPP, BPBP, PBPB, PPPB, PPBB,  PPPP,  PBBP, BPPB, BBPB,  PPBP,  BPBB,  PBPP,  BPBB.  there are 16 posibilities in every 4 hands.  put these separately cut 16 pcs of labeled papers in your pocket, stir them well, sit in any table,  takeout one piece without looking at it.  say you take out PBBP,  the first opportunity buy player 1 unit, lose buy banker 2units, lose buy banker 4units, lose buy player 8units.  lose again go home...but you will strike within this 4 hands because, it is 1/16 of a chance you lose.  out of the 16 pieces of paper, one of them is the LOSE paper, so if you pick up the LOSE one it is your lousy luck.  many times you will pick up the right one.  after a win pick again from the 16 pieces of label paper and repeat again, until you win 4units...  go home when you win 4 units....

this method will make you follow strict pattern and i tell you, you must be a jink, to pick up the "lose" piece out of 16pieces.  try at home before going up genting
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Thanks for sharing....I will give it a try when go genting next time.

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post Apr 15 2008, 07:55 PM

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How dices game can be cheat by casino
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s-hAVp6L-lQ
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post Apr 15 2008, 09:35 PM

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there is one system i called "System 16" it is used in 1,2,4,8=16 martingale bets. which means within 4 hands you must get a hit to win.

Preparation:
you must prepare 16 pieces of separately cut paper of say 2 x 2 inch square. each paper you label as follows: BBBB, BBBP, BBPP, BPPP, BPBP, PBPB, PPPB, PPBB, PPPP, PBBP, BPPB, BBPB, PPBP, BPBB, PBPP, BPBB. there are 16 posibilities in every 4 hands. put these separately cut 16 pcs of labeled papers in your pocket, stir them well,

At the casino:
do not go to a B6 table, sit in any non B6 table, take out one piece without looking at it. say you take out PBBP, try not to look at the scoreboard, because it might influence your decision. at the first opportunity buy player 1 unit, if lose buy banker 2units, if lose buy banker 4units, if lose buy player 8units. if lose again go home...but you will strike within this 4 hands because, it is 1/16 of a chance you lose. out of the 16 pieces of paper, one of them is the LOSE paper, so if you pick up the LOSE one it is your lousy luck. many times you will pick up the right one. after a win pick again from the 16 pieces of label paper and repeat again, until you win 4units... go home when you win 4 units....

this method will make you follow strict pattern and i tell you, you must be a jink, to pick up the "lose" piece out of 16pieces. try at home before going up genting. imagine if you make 1unit=1000rm, 4000rm within 15 mins. go home, dont come back after 3-4 days. enjoy yourself come back with only 16units not more

the idea is to take advantage at shortest possible time, so you have to play big stakes. you can use 1,3,7,15=26 i.e for every hand you lose you increase your profit by 1 unit. i.e. 1,2,3,4 if you win on the 4th hand you win 4 units instead of 1 unit.

note: better if you before reach genting at the first hill top corner there have a "tua peh kong", offer some fruits pray a bit, and let tua peh kong pick the 16pcs for you in sequence and write down on a paper, so when you go to the table just play as per what tuapehkong has picked for you. i am sure you win.

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QUOTE(hooi_man @ Apr 15 2008, 07:55 PM)
How dices game can be cheat by casino
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s-hAVp6L-lQ
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i have seen the above link already.
i have heard of magnetic dice, which means control room will know what is inside the cover. so better don't play dice, if the guy in the control room don't like your face he press one button, you lose even when you are suppose to win. with baccarat, there is no possibility of manipulation. if you want to play dice----wait until everybody place their bets, and you play opposite side, but put just the min bet. the guy at the control room will let you win

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post Apr 15 2008, 10:50 PM

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QUOTE(edwardng9949 @ Apr 15 2008, 04:42 PM)
you mistaken what i said.  i said win 4 units go home,  who ask you to play long run??  if you play long it is your money which i cannot stop you, but do not blame me.  why blame casino when you insist to play long?
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Relax I'm not arguing with you here. I basically agree with most of what you said so far. I was just stating that even the Martingale system is no sure method to beat the casino, which from reading your posts is something that you understand very well.

Here's a link to a more in depth explanation about why this is so. The gist of it is, you win more often but your returns are smaller and when you actually lose, you lose big.

At least I think we can agree that the most important part of gambling is knowing when to stop. Cheers.
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post Apr 15 2008, 11:03 PM

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Well, for the System16 with martingale system, I already tested using simulation software.

The result, out of 176 games played, 7 times loses. Which means 169 games winning. 169 - 112 units(7 * 16 = 112 units ) = 57 units of winning. Impressive good!

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QUOTE(hooi_man @ Apr 15 2008, 11:03 PM)
Well, for the System16 with martingale system, I already tested using simulation software.

The result, out of 176 games played, 7 times loses. Which means 169 games winning. 169 - 112 units(7 * 16 = 112 units ) = 57 units of winning. Impressive good!
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see or not i am not to bullshit you people, here in Macau, people are more creative. imagine 57units, if 1 unit =1000=57,000 where to find 57,000rm

ok lah try using 1unit=100rm still got 5,700rm for say, 2 hours work. plus 3 hours up/down hill= 5 hours it is worth it. betteer then losing, still you have to spend those wasted hours.


note : advise you, do not use computer similation, go and buy 8 decks of cards and start playing yourself at home. when you confident then go to casino. make sure you know it well and what you expect before going


Added on April 15, 2008, 11:30 pmIn my System 16 if you want to play long run, you can, but you must increase the bankroll 3 times to cater for temparory drawdown if you encounter 2 bad entries within a small gap. if this bad entries occurs after 30hands then you already have enough foreign capital. what you must afraid is if you lost within the first few hands, if you past this stage, you are OK as the foreign capital will see you through.do not use this with B6 or rollett, or dice, becos, all this has got a pay half, or lose all condition which is not favourable to this system16.


Added on April 15, 2008, 11:54 pmcomputer simulation --normally the pattern is slightly more narrow then a real cards, becos of bad shaffle or improper shaffle. however, if the casino recycle their cards it will be the same as computer simulation. in macau casino normally don't recycle their cards, i know in Sands, Wynn, they use new cards for every shoe. But Lisboa they recycle their cards. Genting i don't know you have to check and see what they do with the used cards?

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there are many tricks and tips here. But in the end, I will only say that if you got the capital then its easier for you to win. ;D
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post Apr 16 2008, 08:59 AM

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Hi Edward,

what does it mean do not go to B6 table? Thanks!


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post Apr 16 2008, 10:22 AM

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B6 table means if you win at banker 6, casino pay HALF only. this upsets the system

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post Apr 16 2008, 10:26 AM

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QUOTE(oRoXoRo @ Apr 16 2008, 08:18 AM)
there are many tricks and tips here. But in the end, I will only say that if you got the capital then its easier for you to win. ;D
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there is no tricks here. 1 out of 16pcs, if you pick the wrong one, who to blame? in this case your skill here is better to play toto sad.gif or horse racing --if you can pick 1/16 so easy, my my in horseracing you be the champion, because normally 10-14 horses running, right?

talking about capital....not true, you heard of the richest man in Australia he was in LV when the 911 happens, all the airplane get grounded for 5 days, he LOST US$52 mil in Bellagio.....so what is got to do with capital? 1unit=$2mil=26units only. if he follows my system16, he would not lose the 52 millions. but during that time i do not have this system yet.

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post Apr 16 2008, 10:26 AM

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Yea, I dono what is B6.
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post Apr 16 2008, 10:28 AM

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QUOTE(hooi_man @ Apr 15 2008, 11:03 PM)
Well, for the System16 with martingale system, I already tested using simulation software.

The result, out of 176 games played, 7 times loses. Which means 169 games winning. 169 - 112 units(7 * 16 = 112 units ) = 57 units of winning. Impressive good!
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What simulation software you use?
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post Apr 16 2008, 10:30 AM

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i love gambling....
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post Apr 16 2008, 01:43 PM

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QUOTE(bulkbiz @ Apr 16 2008, 10:26 AM)
Yea, I dono what is B6.
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no problem many of use knows so can tell you, just ask and you be told
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post Apr 16 2008, 01:48 PM

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Most i've gambled in Gentings is RM50 and that too lost em all! I don't like to gamble.
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post Apr 16 2008, 01:52 PM

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I love gambling, just no time go genting, everyday work work work. Plan to go up soon.
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post Apr 16 2008, 02:01 PM

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QUOTE(Edi8888 @ Apr 16 2008, 10:30 AM)
i love gambling....
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you ahh...i think you only want to advertise your product, by the way what business you do? I normally go to shenzhen, you want to buy something there i can help you, there plenty , goood and bad, and cheap


Added on April 16, 2008, 2:18 pmoNE THING I WANT TO COMMENT about genting and macau.....in macau you get to free drink milk, milk tea, tea, coffee, ginseng tea, bottled mineral water---all served at your table while you gamble, in genting? you have to queue like a POW to get you tap water......Uncle Lim please ahhh do something about this ----ahh i know... there is no competitor lahhh...

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QUOTE(bulkbiz @ Apr 16 2008, 01:52 PM)
I love gambling, just no time go genting, everyday work work work. Plan to go up soon.
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try system16 if you going up.....this will give you some fighting chance...but try not to be greedy...if you are greedy don't blame me....1/16 ...if you picked the wrong one...it is your fault.....


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i hate gambling but i like the feeling of winning. why dont we make 1 squad to serang uncle lim's base?

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