Hi, ive been scouting around to get a d80. i went to this place in timesquare, forgot the shops name, ground floor. they offered me 4100 for d80 kit with lens, 1gb, tripod n bag. today was in fotokem midvalley and the guy said 4400 with 2gb, tripod n bag.i asked him why so much more expensive n told him that it was cheaper in timesquare n he said that maybe the battery n all was not original. could this be true? also how to check battery whether its original or not? also wondering what flash to get. want a decent but not too expensive flash coz im just a beginner. thanks alot...

Well, I got my kit at RM4100 without any other accessories. So, I suggest you to go for the shop in timesquare.

IMHO, Fotokem shops sells cams more expensive.

Well, the original nikon battery should look like this



If the battery doesn't look this this, then it's a 3rd Party battery. I don't think there is fake en-el3e, but got 3rd party. If 3rd party then it will have a diff brand name.

Since yourself say you're a beginner, you can go for the SB-400 or SB-600. But i think SB-600 is more practical and better flexibility.

However, of course if you have the budget, the SB-800 can guarantee better performance and features.

If you want to know the diff between SB-600 and SB-800, read this http://www.kenrockwell.com/nikon/sb600vs800.htm

ah. cool. thanks for the pic n all. so that means it wont be the nikon logo at all if its 3rd party right? btw how much is sb600 now? and is 4100 normal price that some other shops may sell it at? or is it cheaper for a reason? thanks

yeah, if nikon battery, u will be able to tell whether it's genuine or not. It also has a holographic sticker.

Well, it depends on diff shop's cost price.

Or some just wanna make a profit out of your sales.

RM4100 is kit and they will normally throw in a 1GBsd/tripod/bag

SB-600 should cost from RM750 onwards. I think market price is RM780.

ah okok. so u think its ok the shop in timesquare? any other recommended place which u think i should go to or will have the same price?

can try international photo in pertama complex.

i've oso seen ppl selling in garage sale section with the body only at 29xx ... the price it's sooo drooling, i wonder shall i get that and equip it with a nikkor / sigma 18-200 lense.

damn....serious?? can trust or not? i mean got warranty n all?

tat's wat i really worry about, that should be a japan import version, which local distributor doesnt carry warranty for, and you have to either send back to nikon japan or the company which u buy it. ... in a dilemma

man...thats what i dont want. no offense. i mean i dont want to have through go through all the after-sales hassle if anything goes wrong. know what i mean? how about the shop in pertama complex?

haha ... yup ... that's my main worry too. the one in pertama complex, i asked months ago, they quoted me RM4200, forgot if it comes with accessories, but i would recommend this shop, you can try go nego kaw kaw with them.

international camera service center - 2698 6610

ok. just worried a bit coz pertama complex itself quite dodgy lah d whole place

You can try to go and scout for it in Sg Wang.

Enata Photo, Tarita Sg Wang, Boeing Camera.

In lowyat plaza, you can try Bintang maju

In KL Plaza, I would highly recommend Foto Miami, as I got mine there.

Ask around and you may get yourself a good deal.

Yeah, that one is parallel/japan import.

Well, if you're on a budget, this way is not too bad. Given the chances of a faulty D80 is very low.

Made in Japan set somemore....

IMHO, it can't be trusted. One seller, just pay RM50 for every year of warranty.

But who's gonna handle the warranty? You have to go back to him, and he may just disappear.

You can buy the set, warranty wont be covered by Nikon Malaysia, you will have to pay for servicing and all.

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Added on July 22, 2007, 11:08 aminternational camera service center is a renowned camera shop. No need to worry.

You can also get from YL Camera in pudu Plaza, another place for cheap deals for lenses and body.

This post has been edited by calvin_gsc: Jul 22 2007, 11:08 AM

But have to ask properly cos Ylcamera does sell grey/parallel imports as well.....

ah ok. will check out some of those places then. any other things to recommend that i get? kit with sb600 enough for now?

i think boeing doesnt hav d80 that comes with kit lense, tat's wat i asked months ago.

hmm ... the price for the parallel import is just tooo tempting, a few hundred bucks different. the seller in garage sales might be untrustable, but i think if really wanna get the parallel import, can try getting from shashinki, the price is still a lot cheaper.

another place in pertama complex which you can check out is selangor photo.


actually, those grey set, besides warranty coverage, anything else need to worry about?

D80 Kit lens SB600 and 50mm f1.8. Later get MB-D80 and extra battery. dont get 1gb memory. not enough. buy 2gb or 4gb. sandisk ultraII. a good choice for u.

ylcamera wont sell u grey set unless u ask 4 it. Make sure u check the nikon malaysia warraty card

beside warranty coverage, u wont get free camera cleaning service at Nikon service center Petaling Jaya. just make sure Manual book got in English language. if not it's hard for u to learn about your camera.

I found that still many people got the info wrong.

Nikon service center in PJ will perform sensor cleaning for EVERY Nikon dSLR u brought in. They never check serial no. or asked for your proof of purchase or receipt or whatever. Be it local set or grey set or even stolen set.

Btw, for the user manual. Even if it's not in English, you may always download it in PDF format from Nikon's website.

so u think i should get a 50mm 1.8 too? what is this lens used for mostly? n how much does it cost? the kit lens not enough for now?

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Added on July 22, 2007, 5:15 pmoh yeah btw....anywhere got easy payment other than fotokem?? thanks

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Added on July 22, 2007, 5:27 pmanyone here free to help me go scouting 2moro? anytime is fine. at least can help me with anything if im not sure.

This post has been edited by bsm: Jul 22 2007, 05:27 PM

can try ask pertama complex, international camera service ,mr.desmond for D80 kit, just mention u r introduced by buyer from there .

rm350 for 50mm 1.8D can get from photo selangor , pertama complex oso, look for mr.ng. it's a very good lens which all DLSR user shud keep one, cheap some more....kit lens would be an all round traveller lens , but 18-200mm VR would be a better choice ( more expensive of course) , since u oready hav the kit lens , try get some other lens than another better zoom lens only.

can't accompany u for tomoro, next sat perhaps.

what is the 50mm 1.8 used for mostly?

portraits....with some magnifier , can be used as makro...
i use it for some object shots for display products kinda photo...

it's all about creativity how u wanto use the lens..
do drop by D80 thread for more sharing by users there...

ah ic ic. damn i really wanna get the 18-200 but its so friggin expensive. 2.6 k right?

get the body alone, drop the kit lense, and pair it with the 18-200, and yes, the nikkor is very expesnsive, might want to consider sigma

btw, bsm, do update me the scouting result, am planning to pay by installment too for the body ... if the price is right, and spend money for lense.

This post has been edited by d8kd: Jul 22 2007, 08:36 PM

hmmm. if pay installment for the body then can get the 18-200 no prob and pay full for the lense. but if no installment then die lah. will come up to 6k just body n 18-200. then got no sb600. how?? sigh...

sure d8kd will let u know soon. so far i only seen fotokem that has easy payment. but not to say ive checked many shops yet. just a couple.

haha ... that is causing a headache for me too. hopefully can source for a cheap body. might consider getting the parallel import from shashinki.

hmm ... i think for flash, i'll go for a 3rd party at the moment, maybe later, next year assuming ... then only get the sb800 ...

though they said 0% installment, but the price is always higher.

hmmmm. i think ill stick with the original body. dont know whether the parallel one reliable. especially as far as warranty is concerned. just not sure now whether to get kit and sb600 n worry about 18-200 later or body and 18-200 which will cost much more

Well, if you have the funding, get the 18-200mm, it's a very versatile lens.

To share with you, I used to be crazy over the 18-200mm, but i read and read and considered....

I already have the kit lens, which covers the 18-135mm range. So I am planning to get a 70-300mm VR lens which costs 1.8K.

The 18-200 is soft at the further range of the lens.

After my telephoto lens, I will need to save up for a constant aperture lens like the Tamron's 17-50mm f/2.8. It's more affordable than Nikkor's 17-55mm f/2.8. (RM1.5k vs 4.8k)

stop the poison..... no money....

you could look up so many shops ard klang valley... if in penang normally we head to click n snap.... fren bought his at RM4050 wit kit lens...

hahaha...
nothing as ppl poisoning you... but u poisoning yourself by dropin here and reading it.. ahhah..
anyway, the 18-200 Vr is one of the best to travel with... light weight, big zoom range n etc... anyway, no money mah bo pian lor... jus use kit lens 1st la... 135mm - 200mm is oni abt 1.5X extra zoom....the advantage of it is the VR which helps stabilises abt 3-4 steps...


This post has been edited by d_scientist: Jul 23 2007, 01:44 AM

yeah man.getting poisoned every second. the more n more posts here, more im getting poisoned and gian to get my d80. how come the 70-300 is so much cheaper than 18-200? 18-200 around 2.6k right?? better to get 70-300??

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Added on July 23, 2007, 5:15 amoh yeah...does the top lcd have backlight?

This post has been edited by bsm: Jul 23 2007, 05:15 AM

Let's do some simple math.

If you were to get a D80 body only, it would cost you around RM3.5k for original.

Set 1
D80 With Kit lens 18-135mm= RM4200.

Set 2
Body only = RM3.5k
With 18-200mm f/3.5-5.6 G ED-IF AF-S VR= RM2.5k
Total = RM6000

Set 3
Body only = Rm3.5k
With 70-300mm f/4.5-5.6G ED-IF AF-S VR= RM1.8k
Total = RM5300

Set 4
D80 with Kit lens (18-135mm) = RM4200
With 70-300mm f/4.5-5.6G ED-IF AF-S VR= RM1.8k
Total = RM6000

Set 5
D80 body only = RM3.5k
Tamron SP AF 17-50MM F/2.8 = RM1200
With 70-300mm f/4.5-5.6G ED-IF AF-S VR= RM1.8k
Total = RM6500

If I were you, and had the budget, I would get set 5.

It's good to have a constant aperture lens for low light conditions and without flash photography.

You will miss the 50-70mm range in between the 2 lenses, but nothing to worry about that. You just need to move back or forward of your obect by a few steps.

It all depends on your budget really. If you have the funds, I strongly suggest you to get a good set of lens to start with. They're suitable to start with.

I got myself a D80 Kit Lens because my funding wasn't that good at the point I bought my camera.

This post has been edited by calvin_gsc: Jul 23 2007, 07:24 AM

thanks man. u set out all the options really nicely for me. sorry for asking, how does constant aperture lens differ from normal lenses. cant u just set the aperture on the kit lens too? btw..u forgot to include sb-600 which would cost me another 700?



sorry...the smaller number on lenses state the distance or width? coz someone once told me it was the width

http://photonotes.org/cgi-bin/entry.pl?id=...perturezoomlens

get D80 body + 50mm f/1.8

ah ok..no wonder...someone once told me like 18-135, 18 is the width and 135 was the length. thats why a bit confused. damn...now 50mm 1.8 shinchan?? im sooo confused. i especially want a lens that can zoom quite a bit so i can take photos from far e.g. concerts and stuff. not that far like all the way from the back but i mean if im a bit far that the lens can help me zoom quite a bit.

70-300 is a slower lense as compare to 18-200.


options 5 is indeed a good choice, might source for 2nd hand lense right now


prepare to spend RM6500 - RM8000 for the basic set. hahaha ... that's killing.


hmm ... might consider 18-200 or the 70-300 then

Sorry I missed out on the Sb-600, didn't know you were getting it all one shot. Lucky you!

Constant aperture lens means that at any focal length, the biggest aperture size you can can be a constant f/stop.

For eg. Tamron's 18-50mm f/2.8

from 18-50mm range also it can be set to f/2.8 which makes it a fast lens.

However, for eg. the 18-135mm f3.5-5.6G, at 18mm, it can open widest to f/3.5 and at 135mm aperture can only open biggest to f/5.6. This makes a lot of diff compared a f/2.8 lens.




Another reason why I am not getting the 18-200mm VR lens is that it has very bad distortion at 18mm compared to the kit lens.

18mm at 18-200mm VR



18mm at 18-135mm kit lens

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Added on July 23, 2007, 4:45 pmSave the RM350 on the 50mm 1.8d for the lenses I recommended if you don't need the 50mm.

The 50mm 1.8d is a very sharp lens, great for portraits, close ups and macro (paired with close up filter/extension tubes/reverse ring)

One good thing about the 50mm 1.8 is that it's really fast.

It's great for indoor low light photography without flash.

But the downside is that it's not a variable zoom lens.

Which is why I ask you to invest on a Tamron 18-50mm f/2.8.

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Added on July 23, 2007, 4:52 pmI don't think you should compare 18-200mm with 70-300mm.

The working range for both lenses are different.

70-300mm is more of a dedicated telephoto, so it doesn't have the speed available on the wide angle part of the 18-200mm.



If you compare the same focal lengths, clearly you can see the 70-300mm VR lens is a slightly faster lens than the 18-200mm.



This post has been edited by calvin_gsc: Jul 23 2007, 04:57 PM

oh man...its getting worse hahaha. anyway, like i said im interested in taking good normal close shots (not so much macro, more like standard portraits) and also some telephoto capabilities for distance shooting. thanks for all the in-depth info especially the grid pics n all, (although i cant understand it at all hehe). anyway, im still caught in between all of this. really no idea what to choose. is anyone free tomorrow or wed to go scouting around? thanks.

get them first and then you will understand all that.
d80 body+kit lens 18135+sb600.

thats simple
just get a D80 body and buy from me a brand new nikkor 18-55mm
then you can get urself a SB600 too

all in less than 4.5k

is the 18-55 really worth getting compared to 18-135? how can all come up to less than 4.5 if body is 3.4, sb is 700? , thats already 4.1. n how much is ur lens?

its D40 kitlense
my sis might be getting D40 n the lense will come with it,
i dont really fancy that lense and if u want, you can take it at a price and i can get another one for her
how much u think u wanna fork out for that lense?

no offense but wouldnt getting the 18-135 lens which comes with the d80 kit be a better option for me?

If you plan to get the 70-300mm VR or 55-200mm VR, the 18-55mm is good enough. For a variable zoom, anything above 50mm is pretty useless at night without flash/tripod/VR.

If he has the funds, I strongly suggest he gets a constant aperture zoom lens like the Tamron's 17-50mm f/2.8 rather than the D40 kit lens.

mannn. im stumped. really no idea now. again...anyone free 2moro or wed? thanks. 70-300 is variable aperture right? and not as fast as 18-200? really alot of diff or what?

You really didn't read what I wrote huh....

I explained quite clearly.

non taken. if u have the budget, yes. 18-135 is a better option for you

dont bother about 18-200 or 70-300 is faster. you wont know the difference and you dont need to
u shuld really learn to filter informations

wonder any shops accept trade in for this babe?

hmmmm. thanks. again...anyone free 2moro or wed?

haha, where do u wanto go ? i will be in KL wed after 5pm...

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Added on July 24, 2007, 12:20 pmwhich babe?

This post has been edited by yewkhuay: Jul 24 2007, 12:20 PM

I am guessing trade-ins for a D80 kit? I've asked some shops but none of them accept trade-ins.

ya ... i wanna trade in lumix to d80, but since shop accept then no choice

ya, if i m getting a better zoom lens oso wanto trade off my kit lens...

YL Camera would buy second hand bodies or lenses.

YL Camera is in Pudu Plaza. Do pay them a visit!

This post has been edited by calvin_gsc: Jul 24 2007, 08:04 PM

where can i get d80 at alor star?

just saw ur msg dude. thanks anyway. was checking out some shops in pj. prices are almost d same everywhere +/- 50 bucks or so. anyone going 4 d fair 2moro? its 2moro right? trying to look for d banner in d d80 forum. cant seem to find it. which page is it on?

u check d80 price in J.One Amcorp Mall? how much? tq

WAREHOUSE SALE

nope didnt check there yet. foto selangor quoted rm4550 for d80, 18-135 lens and 2gb. but i think they can go lower. they said its more expensive coz got no kit. so body n lens separate prices. International photo quoted 4250 for kit and 2gb. 4150 just body n lens. Pertama foto kit for 4250 also if i can remember. probably getting mine by this weekend or monday. anyone free and want 2 come along? thanks.

try going to fotokem @ sg. wang. d80 plus kit lens 4.1k. the price quoted to me 2 weeks ago. cash or CC same price.

This post has been edited by kriel: Jul 27 2007, 07:05 AM

MOnday i'm free but only in the evening. i'm also looking for 4gb sd card. can tumpang u ka?
u can do some test on my d80 before puchase hehe.

Wow, that's a very good price using crredit card payment.

Tumpang this thread also..^^...getting D80 too...
Btw,Who already using SDHC 8GB on D80?issit compatible?

This post has been edited by h_bib: Jul 27 2007, 10:45 AM

because of that i've to share around the good price.

hey bro, SDHC tend to perform slower because of it's high capacity. They have slower read/write speeds.

try going for those normal sd cards with high speed. But limited to max 4GB.

Thanks 4 da info....Maybe can get cheaper and better option at PC Fair..

Hey, just im a student really want to know if there any way i can have something more or less like a loan, credit card thing

i am very afraid of credit card, i just want to ask something loan like it

my dream machine

d80 with kit lens, 2 ori batt, sb 800, batt grip, rechargable battery 12pcs, 4gb high speed sandisk sd card.

up to now, what i got only eneloop battery 6pcs, hahahahaha, jehan miskin

well, as for me, 18-135 is okay except wide open, at wide open dont use 18-135, why not overlap with 70-210 or other sharper lens

well, personal preferences