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post Mar 9 2020, 03:22 PM

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QUOTE(anwa @ Mar 9 2020, 01:11 PM)
For children, do we buy medical insurance till say 25yo then they are working they can buy their own, or buy till 80-100 yo also? Opinion?
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If you are buying a individual plan under his name, as opposed to a family plan, the medical plan will stay with him for life, until you/he change to another medical plan. You can pay for him, till such time he can pay for himself. Plans and T&C ,may change over passage of time.
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post Mar 9 2020, 03:50 PM

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QUOTE(BacktoBasics @ Mar 9 2020, 03:31 PM)
guys, usually do we need to purchase medical insurance when we are already employed in a company?
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If what is offered is sufficient for you or comparable if you were to purchase one for yourself; then you may not want to buy one for yourself. But the risk are if it is removed or no longer available if you were to be terminated or resign and your new company does not provide one than you may need to purchase one. But more importantly is, will your medical condition remains the same as today when you were to purchase a personal plan in later years. Medical Insurance cost goes up annually.


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post Mar 9 2020, 07:01 PM

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QUOTE(BacktoBasics @ Mar 9 2020, 04:34 PM)
so in other words, it will be not less cost effective for me to start later on if i do require more coverage?
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Two things to note:
1. Cost of insurance will be higher as you age,
2. If you happen to have some health issues, some exclusions may apply or additional premium may be imposed.
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post Mar 10 2020, 06:07 AM

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QUOTE(TechnoG @ Mar 9 2020, 09:44 PM)
I am currently paying RM189 p/month on Allianz PowerLink,
150k on Life,
150k on TPD
150 Medical

Currently my agent is trying to aggressively push some Allianz Rider which cost another RM200 on top of my existing RM189 which I have no idea what is it about.

Do you think I am over insured for a 24 healthy male? social smoker and no known health issue.
feel like cancelling my medical because health coverage is unlimited by employer
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Understand your needs and buy only what you need.
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post Mar 10 2020, 02:46 PM

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QUOTE(anwa @ Mar 10 2020, 11:26 AM)
In that case, it might be better to follow the adage, don't confuse insurance with investment? Just get a standalone medical card, money invest elsewhere and hope rich enough when elderly, or hope die young if poor investment skill.
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Well, you can fall back to the goverment hospital, not necessarily as a last resort. They provide good care. 😁

QUOTE(thomasjames @ Mar 10 2020, 02:20 PM)
Hmm. Well said. My current premium monthly is 210.Ā 
Sometimes made me wonder if this package too extreme comprehensive.

Agent said can reduce some of those coverage sum insured. Maybe in future I might consider lower down it so that lower premium
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You may want to relook at the riders that are attached to the policy, they are costed into the total premium, if your aim is to lower your insurance premium commitment.

But bear in mind PA only pays accidental death, whereas life policy pays for death from natural/illness causes.

QUOTE(thomasjames @ Mar 10 2020, 01:35 PM)
Got it. PA reimburse us of the loss/ injuries due to accident
And also can claim the GP cost.

Is this means medical card only covers room or those procedures/cost
But not reimburse the loss/ injuries ?

I wonder in general does one need PA ? I mean usually lifestyle not extreme hardcore. Staying at Urban city area.
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Yes, medical card only covers your hospital stay, within limits.
Your life policy may also pay for Total and Permenant Disablement, this may be result of an accident or other reasons as stated in the policy.
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post Mar 14 2020, 01:45 PM

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QUOTE(moneyd9 @ Mar 13 2020, 01:49 AM)
Looking for best medical insurance

Age 30-35

No budget

Any recommend ?
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As there are as many insurance products as there are insurers, the best medical plan would be what best meets you needs. Basic information and any medical history would be taken into consideration when preparing a quote.
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post Mar 15 2020, 12:46 AM

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QUOTE(thinkgoodpositive @ Mar 14 2020, 10:36 PM)
Hi,
I just bought the Allianz for MediSafe Infinite+ base plan with other rides like power link, etc.. In the policy schedule summary page where it listed benefits summary and premium dates, it stated the maturity / expiry date for all benefits is 2040 (which mean i will be 67 years old that time). But the agent said it is cover till 100 years old and will renew to 100 years old when it mature at 2040.
Is it true that it will be auto renew till 100 years without any terms?
Just worry when mature at 2040 that time, suddenly it will say other terms like health, etc.
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Both the sales illustration and policy should provide information if it's renewable. Ask the agent to point out the specific clause that's it's renewable. But generally all insurance companies do provide renewal option currently for investment linked policy.
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post Mar 16 2020, 07:00 AM

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QUOTE(thinkgoodpositive @ Mar 15 2020, 06:27 PM)
Thanks. There is clause for renewable upon maturity to 100 years  I just worried when that time they may check health status.
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For AIA, you indicate as you purchase the policy if you want to renew, then no further underwriting at a later age. Takes away the guesswork. Just continue paying your premium to maintain your policy. Can't comment about your current policy.
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post Mar 16 2020, 07:07 AM

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QUOTE(RigerZ @ Mar 16 2020, 06:59 AM)
I bought this solely for protection and not for investing. I do not want to end up paying extra in my later years if because the investment funds are not doing well and doesnt cover the insurance charges.

I've had this policy for about 5 years already
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5 years is a bit too long to do anything now. You may want to read up on term policy if your primary aim is solely protection. But check out what riders you can/cannot add in a term policy. Investment Link policy gives flexibility that a term policy does not.
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post Mar 16 2020, 06:40 PM

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QUOTE(RigerZ @ Mar 16 2020, 09:19 AM)
I meant protection in terms of medical, not term  life
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Unless you are of the view that the riders (add on) are unwarranted, I believe the agent, in good faith, ticked all available ridersšŸ˜† (based on brochure), in wanting to meet your medical & health protection.Ā 

On your other question on buying a medical policy now, if your intent is onlyĀ  to get coverage for hospital stay and related cost, than you can opt for a standalone medical plan. Or you can source for other available options.

But be noted that insurance cost for medical/health will increase as you age irrespective whether it's standalone or investment linked.
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post Mar 21 2020, 02:47 PM

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QUOTE(edmund_yung @ Mar 21 2020, 11:48 AM)
Meaning if I have been saving money for rainy days instead of investing in insurance, insurance isn't helping much for COVID-19 in Malaysia. Those non-investment insurance is more than good enough.
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Saving money for rainy days should ideally not be meant to cover medical or health related cost, as there are many insurance products available for you to cover that risk. Thus it would be prudent to cover yourself with adequate insurance policies and use your life savings for retirement and other more challenging needs that cannot be covered by insurance.

Exclusion on communicable disease is also a risk mitigating provision by insurance companies as not to seriously erode the pool of funds for a specific event.

However in this instance of COVID19, insurance companies had taken the initiative to remove the exclusions so that policyholders are still eligible for any treatment and related cost.
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post Mar 21 2020, 05:18 PM

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QUOTE(xiezhaoyan @ Mar 21 2020, 01:31 PM)
You can check out AIA.

Webpage: https://www.aia.com.my/en/our-products/medi...ed-regular.html
Product Brochure A-Life Med Regular: https://www.aia.com.my/content/dam/my/en/do...ar-brochure.pdf

I'm having the A-Life Med Regular + A-Plus Med Booster (Standalone Medical Plan)

For age of 31, the premium is RM907 + RM286 = RM1,193
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The latest rates are as follows:

Plan 150: RM907+RM170 = RM1,077

Subject to any new rates to be announced in future.

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post Mar 21 2020, 05:28 PM

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QUOTE(blibala @ Mar 21 2020, 05:10 PM)
Hi all. Just want to ask if someone get infected and pass away due to covid-19, can he/she claim the medical benefit and life insurance after death?
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Yes, please read up from Page 5 on the same subject.
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post Mar 22 2020, 07:37 AM

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QUOTE(lovebird51 @ Mar 21 2020, 10:38 PM)
Does anyone have bad experience to PA bought from MPI Generali?

Can anyone share pro and con of Allianz versus GE medical plan?

Which insurance company offers trustworth life insurance (life + CI) - 100K for 48 years old female?
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Good morning Lovebird51.

Below is a list of life insurance companies in Malaysia, and all should be 'trustworthy' as they are regulated by BNM.

Probably your intended question is how good is their customer service, which is very much dependent on the company and the individual Life Planner you deal with.

All the listed companies, including AIA, do provide life, critical illness, health & medical insurance.Ā 

You will need to provide personal details and health condition for a more detailed assessment.

But the premium should be in the range of RM200 to RM400 per month subject to your needs.

http://www.liam.org.my/life_insurance_companies/
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post Mar 22 2020, 11:07 AM

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QUOTE(BacktoBasics @ Mar 22 2020, 09:32 AM)
That premium is per month or per year?
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The latest rates are as follows:

Plan 150: RM907+RM170 = RM1,077 per year.

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post Mar 23 2020, 09:01 PM

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QUOTE(SwarmTroll @ Mar 23 2020, 02:05 PM)
I've been told the COI for ILP is lower than Standalone but is that true? I understand that ILP has cash value and investment to offset the rise in cost compared to standalone. However, if we just look at COI perspective it is the same for both no?
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Though it's generally said that ILP medical plan has a lower COI than a standalone, it's not necessarily the case for all age band. For some age band you may find that ILP has a higher COI than standalone plan. In some instance the benefits also vary that making a apple to apple comparison difficult. Also if it's a basic medical plan, the difference may be insignificant.
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post Mar 24 2020, 08:23 AM

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QUOTE(JustcallmeLarry @ Mar 24 2020, 04:38 AM)
Hi agents, do any of your have info how come the price of my insurance increase for 2 years in a row? Last year I know from the letter it was due to the rise of cost of living. But this year what is their excuse for raising the price again???

When I sign up for my current age I was just suppose to be paying rm800++, last year they increased it to rm1000++ and this year it is a whopping rm1300++. Would it be a waste of time if I call them up to argue???
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Good morning.

I thought you queries were already addressed previously. Read the following link for more information. Or call your agent for more comprehensive explanation.
https://www.thestar.com.my/opinion/letters/...costs-explained
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post Mar 27 2020, 11:10 AM

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QUOTE(Zoo Howl @ Mar 27 2020, 01:31 AM)
Hi,

I’m class 1 worker, age 23, non smoker, dont want ILP, budget RM200 and below

1. AXA insurance is it good? Very affordable, RM52 can be bought already

2. Just looking for insurance plan between GE and Allianz. Which is better? I want to protection for CI, TPD/death, Life, R&B, medical.
Pls recommend me. TQ
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Good morning.

You may consider AIA too.

Your annual budget is RM2,400; you could opt for

Death/TPD/CI - RM100,000 + Medical Card.
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QUOTE(RAL @ Mar 30 2020, 02:10 PM)
Hello All,  smile.gif

I'm looking for medical insurance for myself(33, Non-smoker) & wife(28, Non-smoker)

I'm an expat staying in Malaysia on EP.

Please suggest.

And also, if I should go for a medical card or investment-linked.

Thanks.
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Hi RAL,
If you are only looking for Hospitalisation only, then medical card may be sufficient. But if you want a comprehensive medical coverage including illness than an Investment Linked Plan may be more suited. Kindly provide more info on your needs.

Thanks,
Rajandran
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post Mar 31 2020, 12:21 AM

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QUOTE(ezryezan @ Mar 30 2020, 11:56 PM)
Hello all !

1. I would like to know if its the right Company to start my insurance journey with due this is my first insurance ? Any tips ?



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