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Cyclopes
post May 4 2020, 05:43 AM

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QUOTE(afif737 @ May 4 2020, 03:23 AM)
Thank you for your reply. The bolded part, it's quite difficult to say because if we lose our licence for example bcoz of a critical illness like diabetes, we won't be able to fly but we can still work elsewhere. but since we fall back to our spm bcoz we lost our licence,its gonna be hard to find a job. So an agent explained to me, in that case the insurance company will not pay up because we can still work elsewhere.
Hi. You've never heard of loss of licence because it is only offered by airlines. So as far as i know, no insurance company offers it. But some agents try to sell their product using this term which i think is wrong. I was young and ignorant when i got the policy 9 years ago. A few associations outside Malaysia do offer loss of licence. This is why I'm only looking for a medical card and life insurance.

There was a friend who told me that his life insurance coverage is RM1 mil+ and he's only paying like RM2000+ a year for it. I forgot to ask him from which company and i honestly don't know anything else about it other than those figures. Is it plausible to have that kind of coverage at that price?
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They are restrictions based on nature of work due to the inherent risk of the job, that certain plans are offered with higher premium or declined but there would be specific policies that cater to certain industries.

There are various options to keep a premium affordable for high coverage.
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post May 4 2020, 08:48 AM

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QUOTE(farizmalek @ May 4 2020, 07:11 AM)
https://www.aia.com.my/content/dam/my/en/do...rochure_1st.pdf

Is this insurance ok?
one of the Q&A in the AIA website:-

06: WILL MY COST OF INSURANCE INCREASE
AS I GET OLDER?

As the Cost of Insurance for A-Plus Health is
deducted depending on your attained age, it will
increase as your age increases.
Is this mean that every year the premium will be increased as per the table below...

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Good morning,

Yes, the cost of insurance will follow as per the table. The cost of insurance is not guaranteed. This is the current rate, any changes to these table, say three years from now, you will be charged the new rates with 3 months notice. That's the standard industry practice, same with other insurers also.

This post has been edited by Cyclopes: May 4 2020, 10:46 AM
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post May 10 2020, 07:26 AM

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QUOTE(infernoaswen @ May 9 2020, 07:39 PM)
Yeah the agent did explain to me & to my surprised the new policy sustain age is 80 years old compared to my older AIA policy which was only up to 70 years old. Although I admit the AIA do have higher medical card limit which is 1.5m compared to GE but 990k is still pretty high. There are some benefits to AIA such as that RM300 medical checkup yearly provided you didnt make any claims from your medical card...
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You could shed some light. When was your "old" AIA policy purchased? Perhaps more than 5 years ago?
Did you obtain a similar "new" quotation from AIA for comparison?
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post May 10 2020, 12:14 PM

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QUOTE(ckdenion @ May 10 2020, 11:07 AM)
Hi Cyclopes, GE post-hospitalisation treatment it depends on whether Smart Medic Enhancer is attached or not. So yea if this rider is attached, then yea the post-hospitalisation is extended to 180 days.
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Good afternoon,
Noted šŸ‘, with payment of additional premium.
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post May 13 2020, 07:43 AM

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QUOTE(responsible poster @ May 12 2020, 04:56 PM)
hi sifus,

nowadays almost all insurers sell life insurance via website. question is, the perception is that if no agent to serve, the process is complicated.

so is it actually complicated for next of kin to claim the insured value upon passing of insurance bearer?

thanks!
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The requirements are quite clear, what documents will be needed. Probably failing to get the proper documents may contribute to the 'complicated' status. Otherwise what may be an issue is, what is claimable and what is not. But proper and adequate understanding should address this.
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post May 17 2020, 08:23 PM

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QUOTE(ajin999 @ May 16 2020, 08:23 PM)
Hallo sir. Currently only ride on company medical benefit.
age 28 and executive.

Could you elaborate on the fund history? do i need to select the fund or what?

Sorry noobies here

Tq
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Hi Ajin,
Your Life Planner will recommend appropriate funds for you, and if you are knowledgeable about Funds in general, you can discuss which Funds to invest.
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post May 17 2020, 09:20 PM

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QUOTE(darkueki @ May 17 2020, 12:49 AM)
Hi , I would like to seek answer what my agent said is true or not.About one week ago, my agent contacted me and said the insurance company doing offer by let me change the current policy from prulife ready to pruwithyou with medical no waiting period.As my existing policy was only 1 million for life time, then I agreed to shift to new policy.
Currently there are 2 policy , one old and one new, the old policy premium revised to lower.
Then I asked my agentĀ  , do I still need to pay for old policy, she said no need but I afforable , I can pay it and the cash value will be more.
I felt weird why to keep the old policy as she mentioned my medical benefit transfer to new .
She answered me it is better to keep and the surrender value will just reduce a bit when I surrender 2 years later.
Can I have advise if I dont pay the old policy premium , will it really be like what my agent said, the surrender value will just reduce a little as only cost of insurance charges.
I attached screenshot but as she replied in ChineseĀ  so hope got people can help.

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Your old policy will still be active as long as the cash value is sufficient to pay the insurance cost.

You also mentioned above that the agent said "no waiting period" when you were offered the upgrade.

Given that advice, I would assume your new plan should be sufficient, without needing to maintain the old policy. But do seek re-confirmation from her that the use of the medical plan is immediate.

This post has been edited by Cyclopes: May 17 2020, 10:08 PM
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post May 18 2020, 12:27 PM

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QUOTE(Taeee @ May 18 2020, 12:07 PM)
Hi guys, wanna seek your advice.

GE advised me to increase my premium. What if i dont want to?
The FAQ only mentioned they highly recommend me to but did not mention if i dont want. And my agent barely do anything..

Its weird that i am the only one to increase but my family didnt. We bought the same plan but different coverage.
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You can choose not to increase your premium payment, but there are implications, eg, it may affect the sustainability of your policy...may lapse due to insufficient cash value.
Provide more details so that others can give better suggestions.
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post May 19 2020, 10:32 AM

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QUOTE(itv_mark5 @ May 19 2020, 12:47 AM)
hi all, i'm considering to get an insurance for our soon to be out baby.

1. What to take note in this kind of insurance?
2. How much would be a decent amount for the baby's coverage?

And am currently looking at GE Smart Baby Shield, PRU My Child Plus.

Would like to know if any experience parents can share me some tips? Thanks a lot!
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Good morning,
If the expecting mother is below 35 weeks, you may want to include prenatal care (eg AIA Baby Care) when considering the type of cover as it also provides for pregnancy complications. Upon the birth, ideally the baby should be covered for critical illness too. The decent amount of coverage can depend on the budget and what your plans are for the child.

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post May 23 2020, 01:50 AM

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QUOTE(linkham @ May 22 2020, 02:02 PM)
Hi everyone,

This is my first time postion on this session of the forum.
I am 29 year old, married with a kid.

i am saving around 4k/monthly after deducting all my monthly expenses including current Life Insurance, PA, and Medical+Life.

Below are the premium I'm paying and coverage I'm getting.

AIA -Anniversary P.A --> Yearly Premium : RM 1060 -> Coverage : RM 1mil Death/Dismemberment

AIA -Medical+Life --> Monthly Premium : RM 330 --> Annual Limit RM 1mil, No Lifetime Limit, Death Benefit Rm100k+Fund value & Bonus

Allianz PremierLink --> Monthly Premium : RM 1.5k -->Sum Assured RM 2.1mil

Recently my AIA agent came to me with A-life Wealth Care plan to increase my savings and at the same time provide protection for my family upon my death.
She said with a monthly premium of RM 700, the sum assured will be around RM 1mil.

I wanted to know is there any other insurance company with similar plan for me to compare before I make a decision.
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Hi Linkham,
Is the proposal an addition to your existing life insurance or you intent to replace it for Allianz PremierLink?
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post May 23 2020, 02:11 AM

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QUOTE(rodeon @ May 23 2020, 12:14 AM)
Thank you Denion. The one suggested by HLA was a very min premium which just covers the loan only. I thought of getting some returns by increasing the premium.

The reason I posted here is to get an idea on which Insurance company is trustworthy. And easy to do the paperwork in case of demise. As well as Long or Short term Pay.

Any suggestions are welcome!

happy holiday people, #StaySafe.
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Hi Rodeon,

In terms of trustworthiness, all Insurance companies are regulated by BNM, very likely the policy would be honoured if terms of the policy are adhered too. Similarly if required documents are complete, there should not be any hassle in making a claim.

Your intention to get "some returns" is very possible with the additional premium that you may pay. However, for the returns to approximate at least 90% of the proposal (as presented by the Agent, I suppose) it would depend on the market condition as the investment linked plan assumptions are based on certain criteria.

There are products/policies where you pay for 10/20 years but cover a longer period, day till age 70/80.

Enjoy the long holiday.

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post May 23 2020, 01:34 PM

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QUOTE(responsible poster @ May 23 2020, 12:34 PM)
applies to both yearly renewable and level term also?
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For term life, the premium will remain the same throughout the tenure of the term. Whereas for yearly renewable, the increase will be based on attained age, i.e. it will be higher as you get older and will be charged the prevailing premium.
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post May 23 2020, 06:40 PM

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QUOTE(linkham @ May 23 2020, 03:19 PM)
Hi David,
Like you stated above, i am thinking of saving plan comes with life insurance to build inheritance for my family. Even if i were to diagnosed with critical illness and had to quit my job for some months/years, i should be able to continue with current lifestyle and provide food for my family at least till i get back on my feet or my death
Hi Ck,

I want to accumulate wealth more and at the same time increase protection for my family in case I’m gone
Hi Cyclopes,
I am want it to be an addition and surely not for replacment.
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Hi Linkham,

A-Life Wealth Care can be a good plan to realise your objectives. Let your Life Planner guide you on the additional benefits of the plan. Enjoy the extended festive holidays.
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post May 25 2020, 02:08 PM

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QUOTE(jaredtay1994 @ May 25 2020, 10:45 AM)
Hi all, I am planning to get a life insurance with savings plan to maximise my tax relief. My friend recommended Great Eastern Flexi Plus. Do you guyz think it’s a good plan? Is there a better alternative? Thank you
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Hi Jaredtay,

In addition to maximising tax relief, you can also consider insurance for your financial risk management. There are alternatives that can be considered, each having its own benefits.
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post May 27 2020, 01:43 PM

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QUOTE(Eurobeater @ May 27 2020, 01:00 AM)
Hi all,

Need a recommendation on a life insurance policy and seems like this tered might be a good place to start.

Details about myself

- age: 24 y/o
- occupation: bank executive. So pretty much just office work
- non-smoker
- single ( unfortunately sad.gif ) and only one debt commitment for a car. But the monthly installments are just below 15% of my gross

Am looking for a Non-participating term-life policy. The kind that can be bought online at an affordable price. I've taken a look at a few companies and noticed eTiQa is the cheapest at under RM 50 a month. But I would like to know if anyone here have better options to suggest.

I'm a bit unsure as to how much coverage I need, but I assume RM 500k for 20 years coverage since I may want to pursue larger financial goals like buying a house maybe 10 years down the road

Would appreciate any thoughts or suggestions

Side note: The reason why I really highlighed the word "non-participating" is because despite this is what I firmly want, the insurance agents that I spoke with (just the ones i asked, no further) cannot seem to understand. A participating policy or IL-policy is always suggested with high premiums that I don't want. For me, cost is a major consideration when buying term insurance.
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Hi Eurobeater,
If it does interest you, AIA is currently having a promotion for term life insurance. Three months waiver on premium ( you pay only from Month 4 onwards). It's a limited offer with maximum sum assured of RM 100,000 for 20 years. For your age, the premium will be 28.19 monthly.

QUOTE(veloos @ May 26 2020, 10:29 PM)
Hi All,

I had medical coverage from GE as below :

Life + CI
SM200 (medical)
Premium waiver
Smart Extender 120K

However due to family history, I may prone to be high risk on canceer. Hence, would like to get some advice :

1) Is my current coverage sufficient?
2) If no, is it advisable to top up (either additional riders or increase coverage limtis) or purchase from another insurance?

Other opinion or suggestion are welcome.
Thanks
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Hi Veloos,
If cancer is your primary concern, you may want to consider insurance products that are cancer specific, such as AIA Cancer360.
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post May 27 2020, 05:37 PM

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QUOTE(Eurobeater @ May 27 2020, 04:49 PM)
That seems nice. What's that policy name under AIA? I might check it out.
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A Life Protect Term
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post May 27 2020, 06:38 PM

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QUOTE(spacelion @ May 27 2020, 05:09 PM)
Hi, can I ask one thing in regards to your industry.

Many times I have to sit down and listen to an agent talk for 1-2 hours about the product offering. I'm aware most features are standard. When I ask about their competitors and how their plan differs and what are the advantages / selling strengths, they are unable to give any meaningful points. Most of it boils down to "Let me see the policy and I'll advise you."

Is there a lot of obfuscation in regards to competing policies or is it just smoke and mirrors ? I understand a sale is hard to make in this time and age but I really despise having to sit down for an hour or two to make small talk for this sort of thing.
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Nothing of that sort lah šŸ˜‚.Ā  I believe the Agents are genuine in wanting to provide you the best advice possible and the right product.

As you noted, most products are very similar in benefits. The Agent would be very much informed about the advantages and salient points of his products. Whereas in terms of the competitor's product, s/he will probably have general knowledge about the product, and should be able to make comparison, especially areas where you draw their attention.

But given the many products in the market, if you can narrow down what products you want compared, he will have to make too many comparisons.

Likely the Agent don't want to take more of your time than necessary too šŸ˜‚.

You have a blessed day.
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post May 28 2020, 05:17 PM

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QUOTE(zack.gap @ May 28 2020, 01:56 PM)
Looking for a pure no-frills standalone medical card.

I’m a 30 year old bank exec (group covered), single and a casual smoker. No pre existing medical conditions.

Budget is 3k/year and hoping to get the widest coverage with highest single bed R&B. No investment-linked plan pls. I do my own stock picking. Hope any sifus here can help me out.
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Hi Zack,

Medical Card is a common product among all insurers. You may browse websites like ringgitplus.com or imoney.my to get more details.

AIA offering of standalone medical card is A-Life Med Regular, and pairing with A-Plus Health Booster you get a higher annual limit of RM 1.6m and well within your budget.


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post May 29 2020, 06:32 PM

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QUOTE(rocketm @ May 29 2020, 09:48 AM)
Hi all,

I am having 2 AIA insurance.
1. A-Life CriticalCare (FullPay)
cover ALC2 A-LIFE CRITICALCARE(FULL) and DCF6 A-PLUS DISABILITYCARE
Premium: RM2,795

2. ANNIVERSARY LIFE PLAN
Cover: ALP2PB ANNIVERSARY LIFE PLAN and WP-N 3N EAPWP/BASIC
Both coverage amount is RM20k for each
Premium: RM398

Both plans are stated as Life insurance in the MyAIA online account. May I know is this correct? Should the first one is a medical insurance?

The first plan premium is quiet heavy to me. Having it for about 5 year, if I want to reduce my premium, besides the coverage amount will drop, what are the things will be affected?

Appreciate your advise. Thank you.
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The policy will accrue dividend at end of each policy year, any reduction in premium or sum assured would likely affect the dividend.

Feel free to drop a PM if you have any further questions.
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post May 30 2020, 06:02 PM

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QUOTE(SwarmTroll @ May 30 2020, 05:59 PM)
Question for those with AIA,

For ILP the minimum monthly premium is RM150, however the selected option might be below RM150, lets say RM143. What does actually happen to the extra RM7 I would have to pay to meet the minimum premium?
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Goes to your investment account, and invested in the Funds you have selected.

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