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Holocene
post Nov 5 2020, 08:00 AM

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QUOTE(mrcloud9 @ Nov 5 2020, 01:39 AM)
Hi, I'm shopping around for an investment link insurance policy with medical card rider.

I am interested in medical card rider that still offers daily hospital cash allowance (upon admission in private hospitals). Insurance providers such as Prudential no longer offers this. They only offer daily cash allowance upon admission to government hospitals which is not relevant in my case.

Can anyone tell me which insurance providers still offer this please?
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You can have a look at Allianz MediSafe Infinite+ for the hospital income benefit.

On top of that they do have a no claim refund benefit where if there is no claim in the policy year, you will get up to 20% refund on cost of insurance of the medical card.

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Jiansheng
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post Nov 7 2020, 06:10 PM

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QUOTE(UnrequitedC @ Nov 7 2020, 05:54 PM)
Hi,

Currently I'm paying RM 220 monthly premium for the medical insurance. At the same time, company has also provided insurance to me as well.

That's why I'm planning to cancel my personal insurance, and buy the insurance later in life, maybe after 40 years old.

I would like to ask what is the projection of the monthly premium for personal medical insurance in the next 5~10 years, for a 40 years old male.

Another alternative is to have an insurance now with lower premium, less coverage. Anyone got any suggestion?
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Having company provide H&S is great and you can consider a medical card with deductibles which is lower down the premium significantly.

Allianz MediSafe Infinite+ is one such example where you have the option for deductibles in RM5,000, RM10,000 and RM30,000 with retirement option whereby the deductible goes away when you are 60 years old.

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post Nov 8 2020, 05:08 PM

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QUOTE(UnrequitedC @ Nov 8 2020, 04:17 PM)
Thanks for the advise. Interested with the allianz plan.
I'm planning to opt for below package. Compared to existing premium, I can save around RM 60k by the age of 60 for me and my wife.

Insurance provided by company : 30k annual limit.
Allianz plan ,coverage 30 years with 30k deductible: +1.5M annual limit

However, I still have concerns as below.

1) Insurance provided by employer normally will be renewed annually. If got CI, will the insurance company allow renewal of the insurance for the 2nd year?

2) If due to CI, have to quit the job and lose the company insurance. From 2nd year onwards, do I need to fork out the first 30K for follow-up treatment and hospitalisation cost, before entitled to the coverage from Allianz?
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1) For corporate H&S, pre-existing illness have a waiting period of 120 days. After that you will be covered. I have a client that had a quarter of his brain removed and is considered OKU, his corporate H&S still covers him after the waiting period. Unfortunately he is unable to purchase any personal policy from a life insurance company

2) An easy way to manage that is to ensure your new company provides corporate H&S as its benefits or take on a lower deductible.

Some cash rich clients opt to keep some cash in a Fixed Income/Money market fund that will be able to generate RM5k or RM10k consistently every year to ensure they have enough cash to pay off the deductibles in the event that they have to incur it on an annual basis in perpetuity.

Review your corporate H&S benefits with the Allianz agent and see how you can benefit from deductible option.

Deciding on whether to use a deductible or even how much deductible is appropriate for you requires a certain level of clarity of your own personal finance.

Deductible when used appropriately can greatly benefit your personal finance journey.

Hope that helps with your consideration 🤓

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Jiansheng

This post has been edited by Holocene: Nov 8 2020, 05:16 PM
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post Nov 25 2020, 10:15 PM

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QUOTE(eeesiang @ Nov 25 2020, 07:26 PM)
Appreciate your reply.  notworthy.gif Now I am affirmative with what I need to do. 

I have another question on the qualification of insurance agent and/or financial planner.

I find out that I can look for a registered life insurance agent/financial planner with the following search engines attached:
https://www.liam.org.my/customer_zone/?c=15&ct=2
https://www.fpam.org.my/cfp-members-list/

(1) If any agent/financial planner was not found in this database, does it indicate that they running the business "illegally"?

I encountered an agent self-claimed a "wealth planner" (ain't even financial planner, but I assumed it's probably referring to the same profession),

The agent is holding the title of "CMFA", "MDA" too.
(2) What do the titles signify?
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All authorized life insurance agents will be in LIAM's data base.

FPAM registry only shows who are their members. To find licensed and registered Financial Planners you can look here: https://ers.seccom.com.my/public/Default.aspx?menu=2

I believe Prudential calls their insurance agents Wealth Planners.

As for title, it most likely signifies their achievement in their career as an insurance agent.

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Jiansheng
Holocene
post Dec 10 2020, 11:29 PM

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QUOTE(jxly55 @ Dec 10 2020, 10:04 PM)
Hi,

My sister (26) is planning to get a medical card and critical illness policy. She is contemplating whether to go for a standalone medical card first which is cheaper or ILP which bundles up life + medical card + critical illness. For now she does not have any dependence, so is thinking that is it really worth it getting an ILP life insurance..
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Whether you have dependents or not is not part of the consideration when it comes to deciding between a standalone medical card or a medical card rider attached to an ILP life insurance. Why? Because you can actually push life coverage to the minimum of RM5k for ILP.

Instead she should compare the benefits available between each product.

Hope that clarifies things.

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Jiansheng
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post Dec 16 2020, 10:38 PM

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QUOTE(weidasdnbhd @ Dec 16 2020, 08:30 PM)
Hi Sifu here,.

Wanna ask any Allianz agent here,  currently holding Allianz Powerlink with CI and medical rider since 2013.
This month, my agent talked to me if I want to upgrade my current medical plan to a better benefit one. He gave me a quotation, by phone, the suggested premium will be increased from RM150 to RM230 monthly. My age is 44. After increase of premium, the policy can sustain until the age of 58.

My current benefit:
Death and TPD : RM60000
Critical illness : RM30000
Medical : R&B RM150, annual limit and lifetime limit : RM1 million, can upgrade to RM850K annual, unlimited for lifetime.

I asked him was it possible to pay RM200 monthly? He said cannot, RM220 was the minimum premium I need to pay in order to sustain until my age at 58. I said I can reduce the benefit of death, and mainly focus on medical protection. He said I still need to pay at least RM220 even reduce my death benefit?

So any Allianz agent here willing to use your Allianz quotation system to help me calculate the minimum premium I can pay? Is it die die must pay suggested premium, cannot be lower than it ? I know if the increased premium is too low, it cannot sustain longer. But I just want to upgrade first, for better benefit. I don't mind top up more when I get older.
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You can call or walk in to any Allianz branch to clarify if you do not trust your agent.

Other agents will not be able to check as they do not have access to your existing policy and given the upgrade is being made from your existing PowerLink, only your servicing agent and the branch will be able to provide you with a quote. The cash value you have plays a role in the computation.

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Jiansheng

This post has been edited by Holocene: Dec 16 2020, 10:39 PM
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post Dec 23 2020, 01:17 PM

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QUOTE(LessNless @ Dec 23 2020, 01:04 PM)
Hmm, its for my son, 3 yo. The GE insurance agent told me if not purchase wuth ILP then no guarantee renewal.
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Your GE agent must be out of touch from the market.

As the others have shared there are Stand Alone medical plans to provide guaranteed renewal.

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Jiansheng
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post Jan 11 2021, 09:56 PM

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Any providers here that can underwrite a life insurance coverage equivalent to an MRTA with a term of 10 years do get in touch.

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