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TSsoohwei
post Mar 5 2020, 11:02 AM, updated 6y ago

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Wondering, most of the companies can accept lateness to work until which extend?
- 30 mins/ 1 hour/ 2 hours?

If late, what actions will be taken?
- deduct salary/ late for how long then OT for how long/ replace work on another day?

What reasons are acceptable for lateness?
- traffic jam/ LRT rosak/ waking up late?
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post Mar 5 2020, 11:36 AM

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As long not everyday should be fine.

If more than 2 hours, there is something called time out. Therefore time should be below that time.

If late, then extend working hour la depending on how long late.

As for me, I don't bother as long not everyday and able to meet deadline
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post Mar 5 2020, 12:06 PM

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Reason is deemed acceptable if your lateness is rare occurrence.

Either full working hours or deduct salary. Don't think I ever heard of replacement for lateness on another day.

Been late for 2 hours but only once as far as I remember. Usually will just call for half day off if late more than an hour.
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post Mar 5 2020, 12:36 PM

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For me everyday late 30~40 minute...
But go home very late....
Over time 1~3 hours, but cant claim.....
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post Mar 5 2020, 01:41 PM

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This depends on your company......but if you late till 2hrs you still got face mei to come to work...better straight take 1st half leave lar to save the trouble......

Usually will deduct salary......

The reason is reasonable? If everytime late also using same reason then must be something wrong already......
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post Mar 5 2020, 01:43 PM

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QUOTE(soohwei @ Mar 5 2020, 11:02 AM)
Wondering, most of the companies can accept lateness to work until which extend?
- 30 mins/ 1 hour/ 2 hours?

If late, what actions will be taken?
- deduct salary/ late for how long then OT for how long/ replace work on another day?

What reasons are acceptable for lateness?
- traffic jam/ LRT rosak/ waking up late?
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if your boss likes u, half day no problem.

if your boss dislikes u, even 5 minutes is an excuse not to promote u
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post Mar 5 2020, 03:57 PM

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my company delay 1 minute also minus 30 minute of salary. so we just enter at the next half hour.
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post Mar 5 2020, 05:08 PM

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QUOTE(WaCKy-Angel @ Mar 5 2020, 01:43 PM)
if your boss likes u, half day no problem.

if your boss dislikes u, even 5 minutes is an excuse not to promote u
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reminded me some awful experience working in my earlier career days. yup. favoritism at its best.
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post Mar 5 2020, 05:29 PM

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wah some companies still strictly adhere to working hours
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post Mar 5 2020, 05:40 PM

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QUOTE(MoneyChaser @ Mar 5 2020, 05:29 PM)
wah some companies still strictly adhere to working hours
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why no? you try work in publc
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post Mar 5 2020, 05:50 PM

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QUOTE(soohwei @ Mar 5 2020, 11:02 AM)
Wondering, most of the companies can accept lateness to work until which extend?
- 30 mins/ 1 hour/ 2 hours?

If late, what actions will be taken?
- deduct salary/ late for how long then OT for how long/ replace work on another day?

What reasons are acceptable for lateness?
- traffic jam/ LRT rosak/ waking up late?
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Well, if it's not on purpose then I think you don't have anything to worry about! Regarding actions taken, it all depends on the company. Some companies are ok with tardiness, but of course, they probably expect the employee to "pay back time" and work slightly later etc.
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post Mar 6 2020, 08:11 AM

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My company has a flexi entry time between 8.30 - 9.30. Ofc, you have to go back later if you came in later too

But if late, usually boss don't care. As long as you don't abuse
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post Mar 6 2020, 09:27 AM

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It depends on industry and job needs.

Some can have flexible hour, some cannot.

Customer service orientated generally needs to follow strict time, if your company or service counter is opening for business at 8.00am, then 8.01 am is already unacceptable time.
When your staff only come in 8.30am to start the service counter, surely there will be a lot of angry customers that are waiting and can ruin the company image.


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post Mar 6 2020, 01:07 PM

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it really depends on companies, and boss style.

i been with japanese company, late more than 5 mins deduct salary.
i been with US company, some roles required on time and some roles quite flexible as long as you deliver.

i have a friend working in local company, cannot tolerate lateness, but they always OT for 1-2 hrs. how to count like that.

at the end, back to your company/boss pattern.
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post Mar 6 2020, 01:32 PM

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depend on your company.
very subjective question
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post Mar 6 2020, 02:04 PM

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depends on company culture.. and ways of working... some companies also flexible for work from home.. as long as work gets delivered.. some companies punch card.. it all depends.. on the company policy.. in certain europe countries when i was attached there ... i ask them whats the working hour.. the reply was we never had one.. and i was stunned :-0
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post Mar 6 2020, 02:41 PM

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depends actually on company. would say 30-1 hour.

u can be late for 2 hours provided u have valid reasons i.e work late last night, late night meeting. but put back in the hours.




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post Mar 7 2020, 06:46 AM

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Follow what company policy states
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post Mar 7 2020, 02:58 PM

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Best not to be late.......
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post Mar 7 2020, 04:07 PM

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My senior just told me that if you're planning to enter office late, inform him beforehand.

But still, nothing beats leaving the house earlier. No excuses unless there's some accident or urgency involved.
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post Mar 7 2020, 07:04 PM

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Even company has flexible hour, it is still better to be prompt to work unless got special circumstances. Easier for company work flow, communication between colleagues.

Sometimes company may have trouble in workflow and communication, when one arrived 8 am, another one 9am, another 9.30am.
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post Mar 8 2020, 08:39 AM

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last time my factory didn't mind ppl coming late to work (my supervisor also didn't come on time one), I still come early because the jam is terrible.
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post Mar 8 2020, 11:20 AM

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If you come late but produce result,boss will be ok
If you come early but you dont produce anything ,boss may not like ?
Mainpoint : why is it a sin to offwork on time ?
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post Mar 10 2020, 08:54 AM

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Flexi come in about 45 minutes late but then go home about 2 hours later everyday
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post Mar 10 2020, 11:42 AM

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I love how the TS starts a topic then provides zero feedback to all the response biggrin.gif

Or maybe he/she got fired for being late?

TSsoohwei
post Mar 10 2020, 05:42 PM

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QUOTE(tishaban @ Mar 10 2020, 11:42 AM)
I love how the TS starts a topic then provides zero feedback to all the response biggrin.gif

Or maybe he/she got fired for being late?
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Oops.. Sorry for giving zero response.
I am actually collecting opinions on the general practice in Malaysia.
So, don't wanna jump in and interrupt the flow.

Plus, nowadays too busy to check the responses yet.
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post Mar 10 2020, 05:46 PM

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i think late max one hour is fine. any more than that a bit much and maybe not considered late but absent...
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post Mar 10 2020, 06:47 PM

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QUOTE(soohwei @ Mar 10 2020, 05:42 PM)
Oops.. Sorry for giving zero response.
I am actually collecting opinions on the general practice in Malaysia.
So, don't wanna jump in and interrupt the flow.

Plus, nowadays too busy to check the responses yet.
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Cool, you are paying attention. It's useful to have some feedback from the original TS obviously, especially after a lot of people have chimed in already. 2-way discussions is always nice

Anyway from my point of view, attendance is a company and boss policy. I've worked in MNCs where flex is allowed and people are judged on their deliverables, not their hours in the office.

Where I've worked, attendance policy also depends on job roles. If you're on shift then start/end times are usually not negotiable unless approved by the boss, come on time, leave on time. However when you're paid 4-digit per day on a drill rig/platform, most of the shift people tend to be very disciplined. Those who can't be disciplined have long been fired.

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post Mar 11 2020, 09:49 AM

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QUOTE(darkmusses @ Mar 5 2020, 11:36 AM)
As long not everyday should be fine.

If more than 2 hours, there is something called time out. Therefore time should be below that time.

If late, then extend working hour la depending on how long late.

As for me, I don't bother as long not everyday and able to meet deadline
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Actually, how do companies calculate Time out?

Will it cause deduction on AL?

For example, if already time out for total of 8 hours, that is already working hours for one day, isn't?
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post Mar 11 2020, 11:02 AM

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QUOTE(soohwei @ Mar 11 2020, 09:49 AM)
Actually, how do companies calculate Time out?

Will it cause deduction on AL? 

For example, if already time out for total of 8 hours, that is already working hours for one day, isn't?
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Depend on your boss, time out usually is for emergency .. i.e late due to sent pregnant wife to hospital or door got lock out or tyre pancit ..

If not mistaken, is allocated certain hour to a month but not many people know such thing especially if your not working in MNC.

It can be only taken once a day .. in term of monitoring I'm not sure because I do not use it.
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post Mar 12 2020, 05:22 PM

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I guess some companies work on integrity and they have trust in the employees to not abuse the system...

 

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