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 Intel Pentium Dual Core E2140/E2160/E2180 Thread, Discussion & Compilation

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post Feb 18 2008, 10:05 AM

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Just wondering what is the cheapest overclockable mobo for socket pentium?

I want change to dark side from AMD..

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post Feb 18 2008, 12:23 PM

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QUOTE(flatfinger @ Feb 18 2008, 11:51 AM)
price range RM300-RM350...u have 3 choices... Biostar TP35D2-A7, Abit IP35-E, Gigabyte P35-DS3L...they all good low budget overclock mobo
what mobo u r using???weird
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Oh ok .. Thanks for that.. Somehow I still reading about Intel 2140 and 2160..

Don't know if it's worth to swap from AMD to Intel.. Low budget.. sweat.gif
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post Feb 18 2008, 06:49 PM

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QUOTE(rozz_1291 @ Feb 18 2008, 06:28 PM)
@a1098113

Well, I guess dis is da furthers I can do..... I cannot tighten up my timings anymore.... Now @ 5-5-5-12 2T..... N I think E2180 cannot go above 3.20ghz.... Tried 3.25ghz, can boot up, but get BSOD sumtimes.... especially when playing Dota....
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Try changing ur PSU if that's the one u use in ur signature.. smile.gif
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post Feb 18 2008, 07:51 PM

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QUOTE(rozz_1291 @ Feb 18 2008, 07:10 PM)
Could it be da cause???? Hrmmm hmm.gif  neva think of it b4.... notworthy.gif  Yup I m now using sum super cheapo PSU dat came wit my casing.... cry.gif
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Yes.. PSU very important for overclocker..
You said can boot but sometimes BSOD, rite? The PSU supplying unstable voltage..
Try Stressing ur CPU for several hours.. Sure hang / restart ..
Btw, last time I use cheapo PSU .. Max 270HTT only.. Keep restarting if higher..
Now doing well at 285HTT.. thumbup.gif

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QUOTE(rozz_1291 @ Feb 18 2008, 08:19 PM)
Hmmm... sad.gif  Well, looks like I hav 2 stop OCing 4 a while.... Try 2 fund sum $$$ 4 a new PSU.... Wats da recommended true power???(offtopic) Minimum lor.... Not much $$$ left, buying a new lptp sweat.gif
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OF course the higher the better but if low budget.. Buy Silverstone Strider SST400 @ RM 165 from zamree7.. smile.gif
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post Feb 20 2008, 09:52 AM

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QUOTE(sparrowed @ Feb 20 2008, 09:40 AM)
Wanna ask, is this normal temperature reading for my E2160? -> 366X9 (3294MHz) using 1.38Vcore load temperature is around 73C idle is around 42-43C. **using stock heatsink

by the way, everytime i run any stressing program (2XsuperPI, OCCT...) the temperature jumped from 43C to 51C++ in just a split of a second. is this normal? and when i quickly stop the stressing program, the temperature drop (in a split of a second also) from 51C++ to 43C. Why is it there are this jumped temperature readings? isnt it suppose to raise linearly like maybe 43-45-46-47....
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I think that is normal ..

My AMD also like this.. From 34c ... Open Firefox .. Shoot to 43c.. Then I din touch anything.. Back to 34c.. smile.gif

Anyway guys.. Why this thread don't have someone who can do the list in first page? EAsy for reference..

I still don't know which motherboard to get.. biostar / abit or gigabyte.. ? Must be highly overclockable & cheap so i can fund cooler..

I'm switching from AMD > intel..
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post Feb 20 2008, 10:13 AM

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QUOTE(ah_khoo @ Feb 20 2008, 09:59 AM)
gigabyte's will suit ya need most i believe if budget come in mind bro.  smile.gif

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You come here do wat? laugh.gif

BUT the price - RM 385.. sweat.gif
ABIT - RM 315 .. RM 70 can find 2nd hand cooler already..
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post Feb 20 2008, 10:27 AM

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QUOTE(ah_khoo @ Feb 20 2008, 10:23 AM)
abit's boards are quite gud as well, but since i had a pleasent experience, that's y i recommend gigabyte's. RM70 for diff in capasitors (normal vs solid), u'll be d judge then whether is worth d $$$. both are almost on par if not a 'lil bit better than each other in term of oc.  smile.gif
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Abit not using solid capasitor? hmm.gif

Ur temp 85c ? I'm still new to intel.. What temp consider safe?

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post Feb 20 2008, 10:31 AM

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QUOTE(sparrowed @ Feb 20 2008, 10:29 AM)
during last week before i bought my intel system i got these choices: Abit IP35E@RM300, Gigabyte P31 DS3L @RM300, Gigabyte P35 DS3L@RM340. the p31 DS3L and IP35E have identical features other than chipset while the P35 DS3L have GbLan,IEEE 1394 which IP35E and P31 DS3L dont have. all of them are highly recommended mobo, u can google and read their reviews. I have a hard time choosing these mobos but finally i choose IP35E, to be honest a bit disappointed with this mobo; dual booting issue, buggy BIOS (have to flash to a beta BIOS only solve the prob), and unable to adjust the PCIE voltage(to OC graphic card).
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Thanks for that dude.. It really helps a lot.. I don't want regret getting IP35E.. thumbup.gif

Why no people pick Biostar? only good at AMD kar? sweat.gif
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post Feb 20 2008, 10:35 AM

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OMG ~ ... Suddenly ... I'm in doubt again ... LOL

I don't want the same thing happen to me again .. I purchased Biostar T550 after a lot of good review about it.. Yes it is good motherboard but hit the wall at 280HTT which is not good enuff for AMD overclocker.. Ram cannot over 1000Mhz also .. Used it for almost a year..

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QUOTE(a1098113 @ Feb 20 2008, 10:39 AM)
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i would think if u really want to try a noob board for OCing, Abit is alright from my honest opinion. Abit makes decent mid range boards. Most companies like Gigabyte and Asus are damn good in their top boards. NO doubt. But if ur learning OC, and ur budget is tight, IP35-E is alright.
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I'll be getting E2160 M0 stepping.. I need a mobo that can run 400Bus speed .. Although I am not sure I can get 100% oc but I will do it after I get cooler.. Ram must be able to do over 1000Mhz .. How hot is the Nb with passive Heatsink only? vdimm max is wat volt?

Sorry to ask a bunch.. I don't want waste money n time.. If GC nvm.. just unplug only.. Motherboard is real headache..

I'm in overclocking for quite some time and my exp tells me that Gigabyte / Asus expensive becoz of their branded name and marketing.. Their performance I don't really know coz i neva use .. expensive ma..
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QUOTE(anggajaya @ Feb 20 2008, 11:10 AM)
ermm like this bro, i guess most of the mid-range motherboards which are based on P-35 chipsets can run a FSB 400, even my P 965-ds 3 rev 3 still can handle an E2140 at 400x8 very stable. But the problem is now ur processor E2160, even it's a Mo stepping, I still can say that an e2140 still can win when it comes to a hundred percent overclocking.

Unless U wanna Bump Up the vcore very much, but the temp  sweat.gif , Even u bump that much, i Aint still pretty sure that it would be succeded. heu2heu, even now, I am still struggling with my E2160, to make it stable at FSB 347, I had to pump the vcore up to 1.425  sweat.gif , and the temp has raised 70 celsius using the stock heatsink..., but who knows ur chip is such a great one..who knows.. gud luck bro
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OH.. Of course 2140 can easily 100% oc la coz 3.2Ghz only ma.. 2160 need 3.6Ghz.. I will try.. Hehe..
I dare to pump vcore.. tried 1.650v also on my AMD.. Stress it also fail.. If intel can OC higher wif high vcore.. no problem for me..
Just wondering shop selling 2140 and 2160 stepping is wat.. ? and good for oc or not..
Where can i find good processor?

QUOTE(ah_khoo @ Feb 20 2008, 11:16 AM)
u can expect 400fsb on almost all p35 boards, heck, even p965 boards can do that. wat matter d most is ya chip, for sure not all e2160 (even it's a m0) can do 400fsb as most of intel chips have this fsb wall. imagine if e2160 / e2180 can do 400fsb, will there be ppl buyin their e4xxx/e6xxx chips?  laugh.gif

@ a1098113

well, if that's d case i gotta agree w u, but i did enjoy playin w 965p-ds3 back then when i owned an e2140, oc was a breeze, or i can say oc w intel is easier. then i managed to play w asus p5k-e, a great board i must say. no vdrop & very fine voltage tweak option for vdimm (0.05v per notch IIRC), but my oc was limited by d chip which can hardly go further than 400fsb, that's y i opted to sell all & went back to amd (misery).  laugh.gif
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Oh i see.. I not saying must do 400fsb on that chip lar.. Got future also mar.. tongue.gif

QUOTE(flatfinger @ Feb 20 2008, 01:01 PM)
im with biostar...see my siggy n my proc..all using biostar mobo to oc...n for me biostar is 1 among the best overclock value mobo out there...u can get TP35D2-A7 for RM340 plus minus...tweak it with rebel heaven bios...u'll be flying... wub.gif
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My T550 use Rebel Haven Bios too .. OC like crap.. laugh.gif doh.gif

One thing i dun like about Biostar.. Why must they create mobo that has power connector in the middle? Blocking the processor only.. sweat.gif

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post Feb 20 2008, 02:39 PM

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QUOTE(flatfinger @ Feb 20 2008, 01:47 PM)
high vcore will not be a problem for water cooler runner...air cooling hav to monitor the temperature

despite of others...yeah the layout totally suck... sweat.gif
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M0 stepping is the best for 2160? smile.gif

Btw, shop selling what stepping?

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post Feb 20 2008, 02:41 PM

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QUOTE(tech_frix @ Feb 20 2008, 02:40 PM)
got mine last week and it is M0 stepping...
L2 dah tak dak rasanya... nod.gif
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Oh.. So normally shop now comes with m0 stepping la? Thanks for that... smile.gif
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post Feb 20 2008, 02:58 PM

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QUOTE(tech_frix @ Feb 20 2008, 02:46 PM)
just check d S Spec and make sure it stated SLA8Z...
dat is M0 stepping... flex.gif
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Aiyo.. The shop don't have stock .. the sale person said if confirm want then only take.. Don't know how to check the model...
She don't know any M0 or SLA8z i toking about .. She tot i ask what Mhz or Cache size.. doh.gif
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post Feb 20 2008, 03:42 PM

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QUOTE(sparrowed @ Feb 20 2008, 03:25 PM)
lack of computer hardware knowledge is common for computer hardware sellers in lyp. I went to lyp last weekend to shop E2160, I ask those guys in Viewnet (3rd floor in a small shop) how much they selling Pentium E2160, they answered:"there are no Pentium E, only got pentium D 2160". there are 3 guys there also keep on convincing me that there are no Pentium E exist in Intel product line. What worst is that the pricelist they holding that time also misprinted as Pentium D.
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Yeah.. There's one n00b who told me Geforce uses CrossFire.. Sunway Pyramid .. doh.gif

I'll ask about that M0 stepping .. E2160.. RM 235 if not mistaken..

Why some shop sell E2140 more expensive than E2160?


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post Feb 21 2008, 09:57 PM

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What are the option in BIOS shud i turn off?
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post Feb 21 2008, 11:34 PM

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My motherboard is GA-P35-DS3 .. Got many kinda options which I dunno.. Just join Intel .. From the dark side..

Anyway, my coretemp showing 85c.. Then the easytune showing 40c.. Haiz... Everest not showing anything..

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post Feb 22 2008, 01:03 AM

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QUOTE(suicideroach @ Feb 22 2008, 12:49 AM)
have u update the latest bios? U also using E2160 too rite?  smile.gif

lol... my E2160 HSF also is very skinny one like that  sweat.gif  hopefully i can find a decent 3party cooler soon  smile.gif
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Hey .. This cute little HSF is good ma.. Don't eat much space.. The temp also ok..

So far so good .. >

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Must wait and see if there's anyone who sell good/cheap cooler like u do in garage sales..

So far I looking at ngbh's product.. The foxconn looks good but dunno how's the performance.. Only RM 115 brand new ..
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post Feb 22 2008, 01:20 AM

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QUOTE(tech_frix @ Feb 22 2008, 01:11 AM)
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dunno what other ppl said but i really luv my ACF7..good and cool...
and very silent summore... thumbup.gif
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I love my ACF64Pro too .. Damn good performance if install with TX-1 Thermal Compound..

Stress my x2 4000+ @ 1.700v .. No problem .. thumbup.gif 65c~70c.. rclxms.gif

QUOTE(clawhammer @ Feb 22 2008, 01:16 AM)
To be honest, having an air cond room helps a lot too smile.gif
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Yes... I'm so cold now.. Aircon room with open case.. That's why full load 63c only.. If not.. 70c.. laugh.gif

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