I think you're the one which is wrong instead. You should compare things of the same group. Why are you taking Prescott which is one of the hottest Intel processor as a comparison to all AMD's?
Can you please buy an AM2 and C2D then compare and tell me which is hotter? If you're new to this, please read more and don't take a 2004 article as a baseline to prove me wrong.

Added an article as below and please READ.

News! November 23, 2007.
Since when AMD released the first Dual Core processor, CPU technology has contently been on the rise. Then in 2007, Intel took the hardware community by storm when it released the
first Quad Core processor. But no matter how great a technology is for these newly developed CPUs, heat is still the number one concern and with AMD releasing their own Quad Core, the
Phenom it's a continuous uphill battle. Now in 2007, The AMD Phenom comes out with a CPU socket named AM2+, but is backward compatible with the original Socket AM2. Based on the
performance we observed from a Phenom 9700 2.4Ghz, the power consumption, even at idle, went up as high as 168 watts while Intel Q6600 idled at 162 watts! Under overclocking
conditions, the new Phenom will definitely be hotter than Intel's Quad Core. Therefore, it is vital to have the best CPU heat sink for your multi-core CPU. Thermalright has just the right heat
sinks with plenty of cooling capacity to cool these hot CPUs. Want to test out AMD Phenom's limit? Get a Thermalright heat sink and go to it!

http://www.acousticpc.com/

Added another article to prove you wrong and please READ. Look at the heat dissipation and tell me which one produces more heat so which is hotter:

Excerpt from Hexus.net:
Load power-draw appears to contradict AMD's claims, with the Phenom '9700' platform consuming 28W more than the Intel's Core 2 Quad Q6600/X38, surprisingly. The one caveat resides with the engineering nature of our unreleased sample processor, which may not be indicative of processor-in-a-box models shipping in Q1 2008. We'll update this graph as soon as a retail Phenom 9600 becomes available.

http://www.hexus.net/content/item.php?item=10427&page=15

Please do a google for the rest of AMD VS Intel CPU of the same category if it need be. If you're not satisfied, go buy the CPU and do the tests yourself. I've used plenty of them and I'm telling you by experience which is hotter, not by taking a 2004 Prescott article as a summary to everything. It looks to me that you are totally inexperienced in Intel and AMD CPU's and just go by theoritical reading of articles posted online.

This post has been edited by clawhammer: Dec 23 2007, 03:23 AM

Maybe I should be very careful and specific in every single post, going through facts, documentations and grammar plus vocabulary checks because Malaysian forummers have problems understanding and intepreting words in a very generalized statement.

In other forums, I normally don't have such issues.

No worries, I will try to avoid posting in this section of the forums and head my thoughts in some other forums. Plus, you don't have to type a one-liner that has no relevance to the topic attempting to be a hero of the situation. What's the benefit of doing so? To spark a flaming session or create disputes over something that has already settled? If you don't like it, just ignore. Another issue that surfaces here - a lot of people here likes to post nonsense with non relevance posts to the topic. Please improve the quality of our forums by putting up constructive posts.

Last but not least, I have no problems with people disagreeing with me and I have no issues nor hard feelings with cyberloner. However, facts are facts

This post has been edited by clawhammer: Dec 24 2007, 12:19 AM

Newer ones are all M0 and they do fine. My E2140 manage to hit 3.41Ghz.
You can try Orthos and SuperPI.

I'm using GeminII and in an air cond room, I get about 53C-55C full load at 3.22Ghz, 1.3875Vcore. Mine is noisy because of the fans tho'

I'm using a cheap graphics card (2600 PRO)
My friend is using MSI 8800 GT OC Edition and I can ask him for the score.

Are you putting 1.58Vcore for 3.33Ghz? That's a bit too much. Why not you use the most relaxed RAM timings and push your CPU upwards step at a time?

That's a bit too much for that poor chip. I think you can do 3.2Ghz on E2160 with 1.4-1.45V so why not you try reducing it? Unstability might be due to RAM as well. Did you check the timings, voltage, etc?

Actually what matters most is the chipset. For now, most Corsair value are probably using crap chips so Kingston is more recommended (those with Hynix).
If you can find a Corsair with Micron D9's (for example) then that would be just as good. I hope this clarifies.

Actually almost everything can be overclocked. It's a matter of where the limit is. For example those Corsair Value RAM may be stucked at 350Mhz and Hynix 400Mhz and Micron D9's 450Mhz (just as example).

Same goes for your board, CPU and the rest

Good luck but new PSU might not give you a better OC if at the first place it isn't the one at fault

I currently manage to do 432 x 8 on my E2140. Plenty of Vcore required tho'

I'll try my friend's E2160 soon and see if it's really luck

No worries, how's your OC so far? I hope the Hynix helped you out.

The RAM would definitely help you do 2.8Ghz but if you can't then it must be something else. What is your Vcore at 2.75Ghz?

No wonder you can't go 2.8Ghz Can you top up some Vcore?

Ok, that's the sad part. If there are no adjustments then you'd probably need a motherboard with one. I'm using Gigabyte DS3L which is +/- RM300 range and performs pretty well. I'm currently doing 8 x 433 now so you wouldn't go wrong with it.

I'm afraid there are no such softwares but there might be voltage modifications which involves soldering. I wouldn't recommend that to you and yes, get the DS3L or those DS3? series from Gigabyte of your liking. I believe most of it would get you above 3Ghz easily.

I hope they fix 0.96 soon as the temps shown totally doesn't make sense. I'm still using 0.95.4 for now.

Don't worry so much about the idle temps. What we're concern is the load temps and 70C is not healthy but it doesn't burn your CPU.