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PrincZe
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 Feb 19 2020, 01:43 PM
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i'm glad most of /k are still looking at this issue the right way.
to TS, if you think it's doctored, please back away and do not proceed with the hiring.
and if u hired him, there's always probation to find out if he's really worth the money. on top of that, you are not paying from your own pocket. it's from the company. as long he delivers his piece of share, why do you care so much?
i certainly will not login and show my EPF /income tax even if requested. that's unethical to do so and will not even proceed if it's real. the fact that the company do not trust and starts to be judgemental before even he starts his job says alot.
cc party for his pov
This post has been edited by PrincZe: Feb 19 2020, 01:44 PM
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PrincZe
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Feb 19 2020, 02:18 PM
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QUOTE(raymancantona @ Feb 19 2020, 02:13 PM) a lot of job application i filled also got ask last salary how much and epf no. i thought they will use it to check correct me if i am wrong check for what? EPF number cant check anything. they will just use it to pay their employee's share of EPF contribution. they will ask for what is the YTD contribution for EPF and income tax and salary. that is all. of course, pay slip to justify if u are telling the truth. and if there's possibility to low ball u |
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PrincZe
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Feb 19 2020, 02:23 PM
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cc junsheng for his view
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PrincZe
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Feb 19 2020, 02:48 PM
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QUOTE(nuvi @ Feb 19 2020, 02:41 PM) not strongly enforced. |
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PrincZe
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Feb 19 2020, 03:28 PM
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QUOTE(Namelessone1973 @ Feb 19 2020, 03:21 PM) A lot of people here do not understand the real issue here. It is not about salary or the practise of asking for payslip. From what I can gather, the position is not some low level position and for such position, a persons integrity is important. If he can lie about something minor like his previous salary, do you dare to give him the responsibilities in the future knowing fully well that he could tampered with the real results or forge documents just to show good results. A lot of youngsters just do not understand what is the role of HR in recruitment. When it comes to salary, HR usually do not have a say. The salary for a certain position are usually budgeted. The role of HR is to remind the recruiting manager about the budget. HR will also need to remind the recruiting manager about the salaries of his other staffs in the department. The salary offered must be within the pay scale of the company and the department. Example, it will be ridiculous if a subordinate gets a salary which is higher or equivalent to his/her supervisor. A good HR will always do their homework first and they should know the average market rate for the position. On the issue of lowballing salary, a good HR should not even consider candidates who are asking for salaries above the company's pay scale unless it is a really critical position. In such cases, the budget would have been increase anyway. Those called should have been thoroughly shortlisted and not any tom, dick or harry. However, it will be difficult if the position is for fresh grads or people who do not have much experience. A lot of time people overestimate their capabilities and think they deserve certain amount of salary without realising the market rate. Recruitment is a tedious and expensive exercise. It is not something most companies take lightly as a lot of time a lot of people under performed after they are recruited. Please note that I am not saying the practise of asking payslip or lowballing is a good practise. I am merely letting a lot of youngsters know what is role of HR in recruitment and not merely blame them when they can't get a job. what if the salary is legitimate? the issue started because TS THINKS without a proof that the salary slip is tampered. and certainly we are not blaming the HR here. HR did their job, HR gives green light. TS is hiring manager thinks there's a problem. now if there's a problem, cancel off his application and hire others la. so easy. |
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