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edmondyjh
post Feb 5 2020, 12:52 PM

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QUOTE(Wassupman @ Jan 30 2020, 05:41 PM)
you dont know education industry is one of the best business around?
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Absolutely agree! Education business can last for a century...
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post Feb 5 2020, 06:31 PM

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post Feb 5 2020, 09:53 PM

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QUOTE(CommonPeople @ Feb 5 2020, 12:13 PM)
Wow, you wrote 968 words 5,679 characters. Thanks for sharing your life experience. Truly appreciate it

Completely agree with all your remarks and my plan is similar to your path.

Yes, British education. I tot of sending him to British Council as extra curriculum.

The pros and cons that you have mentioned are OK compared to taking 100% risk in public schools.

Drugs and Alcohol? Let them be, its a phase of growing up. I really dont mind of them going thru that process as long do not go overboard. Eventually anywhere in this World, be it UK or US or AUS - they will face this kind of phase (curious and enjoy) - just a matter of time

Materialistic? Well not just in school - later in UNI he will meet this kind of group as well so I think its not a problem. Yeah of course I cant compete with the ultra rich parents but at least my son will have the chance to befriend with them plus the inheritance of family business and network - that is the objective.

My family was moderate but somehow they managed to send us in Private uni and Overseas. Personally, sometimes It is hard to keep up with the rich kids but actually they need someone from our background because they are naive as fuck (all they have is money, no hard life experience)

Which International School did you go to? Mind to share? I am very interested to send my son to King Henry IV college in Cyberjaya or ISKL

How about your Uni?
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King Henry is quite good compared to many. If british ed, good option is Alice Smith. Its Board of Governors are all parents.

ytkwong
post Feb 9 2020, 06:15 PM

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I have my fair share of Public and Private schools.
Standard 1-6, I went to SRJK©, Chinese school. Chung Kwok.
Form 1 and 2, SMK Katholik PJ.
Form 3-5 Private School Sri Garden (Now known as Taylor's International School)
College TARC (Semi Govt Semi Private)
University USA for Bachelor and MBA.

I'm close to all my friends. But what I can tell is that, the people I met at private school, they were all pretty well off financially. Even in school, they were wearing branded watches, not exactly Rolexes, but there were quite a few Tag Heuers, and some designer brand watches that costs easily RM1k+ back then (about 20 years ago).

Friends from my primary school, they were mostly not so financially capable, but guess what? As we're approaching 37 this year, I do not know of any of my ex classmates from SRJK© that doesn't have a stable source of income. We have an annual meet up for Low Sang, and we met just 2 weeks ago.

We have someone who's owns one of the largest pork butchers in Malaysia. We have a few who's working as professionals, engineers, accountants, and some owns their own firm, and some working in Singapore. We even have a doctor who owns 8 aesthetic clinics around Klang Valley. I personally worked in USA for 5 years till my H1B expired, came back to Malaysia, worked another 2, before starting my own commercial press printing factory.

Whereas, those that went to private school, I'm not sure if I can say the same about them. They're all pretty good friends. Of course, most of them went on to take over their parents' business. Some had pretty good careers too, I suspect, because through their good education, they are able to strive in the society. Some migrated to Australia, USA, Singapore, UK, etc. There are a few drug addicts, spending away parents' money and does nothing. And funny thing, there is also a well known scammer of MLM / Money Game, that we can no longer locate him. He's gone somewhere nobody knows.

I can also say, those that I met from private schools, most of them at least drive a luxury branded car (BMW/Merc/Audi), a few have Vellfire with drivers, and a few have exotic cards like Ferrari, Lamborghini.

The friends that I met from government schools drive from Myvi, all the way up to S Class, 7 Series, Vellfire with drivers. But these people I met from government school seemed to be a lot modest / humble, unlike those from private schools who like to compare. First thing they ask when we met for LowSang was "Eh, hi Gong Hey Fatt Choy. I heard you changed a new car. What car are you driving now?" Things like this will not fly in our government school gatherings. Nobody gives a shit. You could take an LRT or a private helicopter, and nobody gives a shit.

But for sure I know what I want for my kids.

I'll send them to the same primary school as me, which is Chung Kwok. They have a great education system. Morning session is government syllabus. Then afternoon session 1-4:30pm, Singapore syllabus. I swear by this school. Why? I was built in that school, and none of my friends today are bums, no drug addicts, no scammers, no showers, all humble people.

As for secondary school, I'll most likely send them to a government school that teachers government syllabus, but with Chinese taught as well, just like Katholic. I could possibly move them to private school for Form 4 and 5.

For college of Uni, what I learned, instead of sending them here for twinning program, send them to USA, join a community college. The last time I was there when I checked, tuition was only about $2.5k USD per semester. First 2 years done at a community college, then credits transfered to a sister 4 year college. For example, if I cant to send my son to Purdue, I'd send him to a community college in Indiana that works closely with Purdue. The overseas experience is important for exposure. My overseas experience made me look at the world a totally different way. The way I work, compared to locals, very different. Discipline, views, concepts, etc.

Just my 2 cents.
stormchaser
post Feb 10 2020, 09:57 AM

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Chinese
=> speak 8/10, written 3/10

Malay
=> speak 2/10, written 2/10

English
=> speak 9/10, written 8/10

Where shall the kids go for secondary school?
Need advice..

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post Feb 10 2020, 11:27 AM

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In terms of education, both sides are debatable depending on your expectations. I would say the main reason for sending kids to private/international schools are for long term relationships and exposure. I have seen first-hand, how much value the right connections can take you when it is done from young.
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post Feb 10 2020, 03:40 PM

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Myself, I started out life in a Catholic church supported kindergarten then went to what was once a very good SJKC in PJ that I finished Std 5, then I went on to a State of Vermont school and then to a state supported public uni in the State of Texas. I will give it to the SJKC, many of the good work ethics I now have has its origins from my time there, absolutely thankful for the good foundations in Mandarin I was given considering these days though working for an Anglo-American company 70% of my income comes from China and Taiwan. We had a very varied background of students but one background that was missing was you could hardly find anyone whose parents were the upper middle classes, why?? The answer is very simple, in 1983 most preferred SRKs that were closest to their homes, they did not want their children to go through that Remove year when they went on to a SMK and finally very few ever dreamed in 1983 that China would open up and be what it is today.

My wife, she attended a certain kindergarten, SJKC and then a Chinese independent school, after that she went to a private college for UoL LLB and only then she went on to LSE for her Masters. She has enviable academic results but sadly one of the things she cannot do is think or analyse or constructive criticism very well, probably a good thing I suppose else she won't be with someone like me smile.gif

Our children, my daughter who is now 12, we never sent her to any playschool or kindergarten till she was 5, only thing we did was when she was 3 we hired a Filipina maid who has a university degree to watch over and read as well as play with her during the day and in the evenings the mummy would take on a tutor role. Weekends I taught her all the important life skills in the world which meant at 6, she knew how to change all kinds of light bulbs, she knew how to use basic handtools, she also knew how to drill holes using a power drill and with some help, she could even assemble an IKEA furniture. In her early years she had very few toys, I only bought her Lego blocks, a Mecano set and some stuff toys, pencils, pens and paint, never allowed any TV, phones, computer etc. When she was 4 I bought her a bicycle. Writing on the wall with a pen? Scribbling using pencils on furniture? Using her fingers to paint on the wall? We never once reprimanded her for it, instead we encouraged her to use papers. When she was 4, she developed the obsession to clean up all her drawings and writings on the wall. I taught her how to repaint walls instead. When her little brother was born when she was 5, each time he tried to use a pen and pencil where he wasn't supposed to she would bring papers for him.

She wasn't sent to any special kindergarten, just one that was selected simply because it was closest to our then home. After that she was sent to the nearest SRJK[C] as we were rather tight on money at that time and felt the financial risks involved wasn't something I could stomach especially as the wife had big plans that she wanted a family sized that would make a Vellfire a necessity. She attended it till 11 years old, when I pulled her out to join an international school. Only when she was 9 I started sending her for some extra English classes as her pronunciation was rather poor and I felt she didn't speak sufficiently in English which is every bit as if not more important than speaking Mandarin.

It wasn't necessarily an easy decision to move her to an international school, I thought very long and hard over it, in the end the decision largely centered upon 3 main criteria, firstly I did not like the way SRJKs had a tendency to mould and standardize, just about everyone that comes out of there are mostly the same. The next was I felt the entire schooling system had too much politics and it had simply become a political football, heck even the PIBG had political camps and factions in it and finally it still felt very archaic and more in tune for the 90s rather than 2030, positions of influence simply couldn't be touched as the old farts continued to dominate and squat there and the world is moving on, jobs are more and more being automated and plenty of people rushing for the fewer and fewer jobs, there won't be room for 90s era thinking and systems in as little as 2025 let alone 2035. In the end I decided I had to act in her best interest rather than traditions and cultures.

Am I happy with the decision?

A semester has passed. My daughter enjoys her school and the new friends she has made. I see a big improvement in terms of her confidence levels, ability to reason and interestingly her level of Mandarin is every bit if not better as at the international school though Mandarin is taught just as a language subject it is taught by far better teachers than those in a SJKC, the school does not take anyone as teachers unless he or she has 5 years post qualifying experience in either China or Taiwan. I wish that Taiwanese woman is teaching me Mandarin as well biggrin.gif The kind of extra curricular activities available are simply second to none. The biggest difference between the 2 schools?? That would be the ability to allow the pupil to learn or do something because the pupil enjoys it rather than need to because have to pass exam.

I am happy if she is happy.

Is the mummy happy? She wasn't at first but she is warming up to it.



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