Last time case american ambasador son whack local kid one also international school one lol

I believe this is the path to mix with rich ppl. I saying there are people really rich and fake rich and poor who enrol the school. You get rich easier knowing these real rich people. I have relatives who enrol to know rich people or for targeting prospective son in laws.

On the bright side my nephew is one of the senior staff in Eco World rubbing shoulders with future president, the ambassador's son' case is one of the bad that happened but the potential is there for the privilege to take the opportunity.

Funny thing is most who send their children to private school never went to private school themselves. They only remember their hatred towards public school and not what they gained.

It’s just symptomatic sign of the growing inequality in Malaysia.

It’s very normal esp in KL to see one person driving Porsche and next to him is a family on one EX5 bike, the Porsche driving person will want his kid to mix with kids from better education background.

This post has been edited by kuci_mayong: Jan 31 2020, 11:11 AM

Education is money nowadays, the quality of education offered is second, the first it access to provide.

Before this small college like cendawan, everytime got new colleges founded.

I am not rich but my son's preschool is MYR 24,000 a year (MYR 2,000 a month)

We are planning to send him to Sekolah Rendah Kebangsaan and later to an international / Private school

Why?
I want him to be friends with good and educated people/family.

Worth it?
Yeap

This post has been edited by CommonPeople: Jan 31 2020, 02:15 PM

If you’re not rich and don’t plan to migrate, don’t put your children into private school.

Your child is most likely gonna work in Malaysia so mixing with own kind since small is beneficial.

Private school is liberal in nature, meanwhile our society is still pretty conservative. This may cause identity crisis and difficult for your kids to join back the society after school. I think private college is more than enough for your kid to experience other culture and diversity.

Yes, I'm a product of SK then SMK then international.

I can give you my long testimony on what I enjoyed the best from both worlds.

I don't believe in the more expensive the school the better the result. I think more expensive = you get to mingle with the higher net worth kids and better facility.

Simply, education result is based on how you and your children plan out what career path they aim to pursue next.

Also if you're rich ... boarding school dah .. kat UK, Aussie, Canada, US

So true

And it's not like international schools are of much better quality either.

After hearing stories from friends working as teachers in international schools, the grass is not so green after all in international schools.

One story I heard is that my friend was reprimanded by the HOD for giving essay question to the class just because one student find it difficult and complained to the HOD. As a result, essay questions should not be introduced to that class for the time being. Mind you, that class is going following the IGCSE syllabus. All the Head wants is to make the students happy.

Another story I heard is that the school called up a few parents to remind them not to send their kids late to school. And all of them who had been called up still come late to school. By the way, late comers are never punished in that school.

And many other stories I heard of how students wanted to be spoonfed to complete their homework.

Because Malaysian schools turn out idiot who know nothing. For example, many Malaysian believe Lynas is nuclear. That is like saying the sun rises from the West.

This shows that our public school have to buck up to solve the social divide in society. If we can give better service in public school, private school willhave to compete.

not all of them is rich.


a friend of mine goes to one of the more affordable "private school" and his school science lab doesn't have any thing in it and they learn by imagining it.

anyway the government spend around rm600 to rm900 per students per month and they have operational scales so if you really wanted to then find a school which charge more than that

it's basically like the public hospital vs private hospital.
some dumbass will falls into a marketing placebo effect and assume things that are expensive = better. so that's pretty much show how the girls mentality works.

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Right? a mixture of both worlds would produce better quality/ balance (instead of private school all the way)

SMK then international? so Form 1 - form 3 in SMK and then Form 4 - 5 international?

tell me more about it

This post has been edited by CommonPeople: Feb 4 2020, 01:18 PM

Yes, because school is another form of business entity.

Yes, more freedom in terms of discipline.. especially handphone, laptop, tablets, hair color, length of hair.

So long students do wear official school uniform its fine, they won't make so much noise.

At the end, school do their part, parents would need carry out their duties as well. So if you send your kids late = your problem if your kids cannot adapt later stages.
The final examination is IGCSE so papers are provided from the official institution so even you complain essay work, etc you still cannot run from facing the official exams and students are well aware of that.


I don't know how to justify if I am a better quality. Imho, I did have a better balance of friends. Higher net worth friends end up carrying out business for their parents, one even invited me to their wedding (both my classmates) this month. So young get married.

I did mine from SK 1-6 then Form 1. Most friends from SK went to the same SMK, did have a lot of friends in SMK since there are so many classrooms, each with 30-38 average students. I moved to intl nearing the end of Form 1, graduated 1 year earlier than my friends in SMK.

The quality of education really depends on your kids discipline and his/her circle of friends. The syllabus will be slightly tailored towards whatever exam your kids are taking, mine was IGCSE so I received British textbooks and followed the same syllabus as them. I entered intl in Year 9 (should be equivalent to Form3) so I had to learn add maths and those science subjects. When picking the school for your children I think you should do a little research as well as to what year he/she might enter .. what's the difference in the syllabus with a government school.

If you asked me what's the biggest contrast with government school, students are expected to copy down notes in books and then memorize them (potentially). Whilst, some teachers in intl can be very 'extra'.. walking into class, turn on ppt and lecture the whole way for 2 hours. You can either jot down notes or type them into your computer. The first lesson will always be a lecture about the topic then follow by tutorials or something interactive later on. By 2/3rd week teachers will handout assignments and expect you to complete in week 5/6. This applies to other subjects as well sometimes date may clash in a week where you have a lot of deadlines when exams are in the corner. That's when parents come in to complain about this and that .. lol (usually that's the case people generalized about international school students are strawberry generation). Later stage of my life entering to college then uni .. this is the same process, lecture, tutorials, assignments, exams. It's not hard to adapt especially started earlier than government school students how to do research, formulate discussion, referencing and presentation. Yes, it is silly when you're graded for presentation (sometimes they grade the way you speak, etc).

Finally, the best part, going on trips! I love it but some parents would disagree with their kids going on trips because of 'virus, people died in the sea, air pollution' when the school decides to go places like Beijing, Bali, etc... and usually parents voiced out their disappointment because they are expected to fork out RM3000,4000 per year for extra trips. Luckily parents didn't question much since they are okay, I went to Bali, Beijing, Hangzhou, Suzhou, Sarawak (volunteering to clean orang Asli house, free labor). Why it is the best? I get to meet new friends from different campuses from different states. Every trip about 130+ students and every year see different faces or same ones... best lah so many memories everywhere we went. Later also, same time uni and go to different countries end up meeting them for lunch/dinner occasionally (usually i only lunch with amois, also grow up beautiful liao ).

The bad side of international school = weed, drugs. Whoever the dealer makes shit tons of money because they are willing to pay for whatever the price, no sense of appreciation towards money?? I don't know. Also, the wrong circle of friends = gone case... cheong starting at 15 y/o. I guess you can't blame entirely on school, friends and etc since also part of duty as parents to be aware of children's activity. It wouldn't be fair to the school, sometimes they can't shut it down completely, worst-case scenario expulsion and the bad apple will just proceed to the next international school to start such culture. There are cases that happened but silenced out completely since no police report to be made that will tarnish school image and parents' background... things like this don't happen maybe once or twice a year for special students.


Edit #1
I typed until here forget to tell you the best side about public school as well. Friends in public school best, helps bringing you at your feet because they represent the average working class of Malaysian. Seeing your friends in private school spending on food, shopping, or the latest gadget may be difficult for a student, especially girlfriends all already carry Chanel, Hermes... then boys... Lolek, Patek, Ap... living the dream at that age yo! As I mentioned, public school friends will help you stay on your feet because of some high achievers will always challenge you to stay competitive, thats for me. If he can enter into unis like Imperial College, Oxford through his hard work, then you should do something about yourself as well. They don't need materials to flaunt, reflecting a hardworking culture. Government school friends some also follow parents business or joined Big 4 and good MNCs.. not too bad themselves.

Education? I guess sometimes teachers may be young + rotating from different states / passive-aggressive/aggressive methodology - you get funny responses as student. I'm afraid of some teachers who goes ape shit in class and couldn't care less about teachers who don't have passion/effort in their teaching.. especially those who read from a textbook the whole 1 1/2 hours.

Good ? Better sports activity, facilities such as tennis, badminton, pingpong, track, football, cricket, etc etc.
+ Cheap canteen food... in intl school the prices are rip off. SMK average daily food prices 6/7. Intl average daily food price 10-15.

This post has been edited by ClericKilla: Feb 4 2020, 04:44 PM

I send my daughter to private school is because SK is like sekolah agam nowadays. Also 90% of most schools students are malay. Don't like chinese school way of teaching.

My household income is only 35k monthly, don't mind sending my daughter to a private school and pay only around 15k per annum.

sending child to this school is to join those rich people so in future can form a society that you help me i help you in those so call top management company.

Gomen fucked up the education system.

Private entities set up international schools to attract parents who fed up with gomen.

A win for private sectors and gomen (they will allocate lesser funding for following year).

Wow, you wrote 968 words 5,679 characters. Thanks for sharing your life experience. Truly appreciate it

Completely agree with all your remarks and my plan is similar to your path.

Yes, British education. I tot of sending him to British Council as extra curriculum.

The pros and cons that you have mentioned are OK compared to taking 100% risk in public schools.

Drugs and Alcohol? Let them be, its a phase of growing up. I really dont mind of them going thru that process as long do not go overboard. Eventually anywhere in this World, be it UK or US or AUS - they will face this kind of phase (curious and enjoy) - just a matter of time

Materialistic? Well not just in school - later in UNI he will meet this kind of group as well so I think its not a problem. Yeah of course I cant compete with the ultra rich parents but at least my son will have the chance to befriend with them plus the inheritance of family business and network - that is the objective.

My family was moderate but somehow they managed to send us in Private uni and Overseas. Personally, sometimes It is hard to keep up with the rich kids but actually they need someone from our background because they are naive as fuck (all they have is money, no hard life experience)

Which International School did you go to? Mind to share? I am very interested to send my son to King Henry IV college in Cyberjaya or ISKL

How about your Uni?