LOL

complete set for 105 is not worth anything just FYI

how about the down side of buying used frames is that you do not know of the condition of the frames

Nobody ever got shit for buying a Giant, Specialized or Canondale alloy bike.
The downside of buying used bike or frames is you don't know if the bike really fits you.
Buying a road bike is like getting a tailored shirt and each brand fits differently.
All good if the bike fits you and your budget but always buy the bike that fits your body not your wallet.
If you don't,  your body will protest and then you'll need to spend again to buy another bike or fix your body.

Good to have for easier resell. Teru setori.

i read once this simple test; throw the frame in a lake/lombong. if it floats, then it's in good condition

That's why its important to first determine his own fit on a site like https://www.competitivecyclist.com/Store/ca...culatorBike.jsp before buying a bike

That's why its important to first determine his own fit on a site like https://www.competitivecyclist.com/Store/ca...culatorBike.jsp before buying a bike

Hi, as title possible to get a rm3k road bicycle that wont trial far behind a expensive road bicycle???

Just my 2 cents.

Start reading up on different materials and types for frame and rims. Don't just jump in and get a carbon bike.

CFRP (carbon) frames are light but extremely rigid. Terrible for our local roads. They come with very skinny rims and low profile tires, also bad for our roads. Race seats are also very thin, skinny and uncomfortable. You will need those pants that have padding in the thighs if you plan on sitting down.

TS, are you planning to trail with a group of friends with expensive road bicycle?

complete set for 105 is not worth anything just FYI

lol definately more expensive then what ever i am getting their bikes are in the 6-10k category but i will want to take part in those big cycling event when they happen. I know those guys will be coming with their rm20k bikes.

There is no accountability when it comes to propagating fiction as facts behind a username ya

Noted on the bolded. I'll let those guys cycling up Perez, Genting Sempah, Guthrie, Sepang, etc... know this.   

If you'd kindly point out the fiction that'd be helpful, but it seems too much to expect from a troll.

lol definately more expensive then what ever i am getting their bikes are in the 6-10k category but i will want to take part in those big cycling event when they happen. I know those guys will be coming with their rm20k bikes.

Some decent China brands are CAMP, Twitter. JAVA.

Also can consider Raleigh sojourn, (not truly UK raleigh but Malaysian license/unlicense copy) under 2k for 9 speed sora set.

But this is not the end of story, you need to make sure they have the frame size that suits your height.
You cannot just buy any road bike.
Also, different manufacturer has own way of counting frame sizes. Only consistence is across their own models.
And remember, the higher the speed count, the faster the chain wears out. Only reason to get multi-speed is for smoother gear change, but generally I don't give a shit about that, so 9 speed sora for me is plentiful.
Yes, I'll also stick with alloy.
I dislike carbon bikes, even though they're lighter, the price you pay is not worth the weight ratio. Also, in a crash, they're much harder to repair or even detect the flaws.
And because they're using resins, these degrade over time depending on how often it is exposed to the sunlight.
Carbon bikes do not lasts.... they will degrade.

If ur into brand name get specialized allez but need top up a bit. Else , if dont mind name get twitter with 105 shimano groupset

Also worth noting even rim brakes have 2 diff version. One with center mounting hole and the other dual mounting hole to the fork

So it's abit annoying especially if u plan upgrade here and there.....worst is to upgrade frame. Macam macam restriction.

Like the above, or rim brakes or disk brakes or front mounted FD or use those clamps, di 2 ready (if u want to future proof) etc
3k, I suggest u get second hand bike ....service like new then use 1 to 2 years. Then change whole bike or go for custom.build.

Most important for the bike, it's not the component etc but please...please ....please for the love of God, get a frame that fits your size. Make sure u measure inseam in cm * 0.883 to get your seat post setup ( measure from middle of crank spindle to the seat post
Make sure you don't over extend the seat post. Stem etc can adjust later but also make sure the fork isn't cut and slammed when you buy. Else no way you can adjust the height of the stem later.

Just my 2 cents.

Start reading up on different materials and types for frame and rims. Don't just jump in and get a carbon bike.

CFRP (carbon) frames are light but extremely rigid. Terrible for our local roads. They come with very skinny rims and low profile tires, also bad for our roads. Race seats are also very thin, skinny and uncomfortable. You will need those pants that have padding in the thighs if you plan on sitting down.

A light frame also carries no momentum, meaning it's less stable and more subject to minor changes from you or the road and wind.
They are meant for people who are pushing 90-100% all the time.

The plastic in the CFRP frame disintegrates over time, especially in the sun, whereas you can paint metal frames.

Aluminium frames are heavier but also very rigid. They are much stronger than carbon, so can take damage. Mostly used in mountain bikes.

Steel (chromoly) frames are great for long distance and comfort. They are tough, durable and the spring effect is good for soaking up imperfect roads like what we have here. It's also the strongest of the 3, so you'll find frames that are much thinner. They tend to be cheaper, but really good ones can cost the same as carbon or alu.

It's useful you read up about frames because this essentially is the bike. The rest of the components can be replaced.

A frame that fits your body is worth much more than anything else. Hence nobody can tell you what's best. If you can find a good bike maker, a custom frame is night and day different. Emphasis on good.

Buying used is a great way to get a good bike for less. Just make sure it's a good fit for you.

Don't get tempted by fancy components. In my case, I've got 21 speeds but only use the fastest one. Once you get strong enough, so will you. Disc brakes are great for feel and grip, but is an additional component. You'll only need it for carbon rims cuz the rims cost so much.

Sorry I can't talk about prices cuz I got my bike made a long time ago and haven't bought another since.

starting with durable steel frame or lightweight alu is ok.. next time u can change
but get good groupset like latest ultegra (derailleurs chainring, and cranks).. no nid include brake (105 level enuff) and advice start with clipless right of the bat (ultegra class pedals + cleats, and a good fitting shoe is very important). Practicing good cycling technique prevent injury especially to the achilles.

Wheels and hubs dun worry so much.. unless u plan to constantly hit at least 40km/h

will inflate initial cost.. but if u plan gonna be long term next time can change frame to carbon or titanium, and port over the parts.
also alternatively if u dun like Shimano system u can opt for SRAM.

Need to know from you sifus did i just get cheated?
2 weeks ago i went to a nearby bike shop to get my first bike, my budget also rm3. I ask "expert" what is the best bike i could get with that budget and he sold me a Trek Domane AL2 saying it has a good frame and the groupset was used by people to compete in Tour De France b4. Was he making fun of my 0 knowledge on bicycle bcs reading through this thread people are recommending bike with better groupset which are cheaper then mine???

Need to know from you sifus did i just get cheated?
2 weeks ago i went to a nearby bike shop to get my first bike, my budget also rm3. I ask "expert" what is the best bike i could get with that budget and he sold me a Trek Domane AL2 saying it has a good frame and the groupset was used by people to compete in Tour De France b4. Was he making fun of my 0 knowledge on bicycle bcs reading through this thread people are recommending bike with better groupset which are cheaper then mine???