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 Possible to get decent road bicycle with 3k budget

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SUSjbcoder
post Jan 27 2020, 10:07 PM

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QUOTE(JustcallmeLarry @ Jan 27 2020, 09:58 PM)
brakes you can modify later on or you are stuck with what ever brakes it come with?
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Disc frames and rim brake frames are totally different, cannot modify to each other.


The problem with rim brakes on carbon bikes is you need special pads for carbon wheels and they don't work well in the wet compared to alloy rim brakes.


It's ok to get even cable disc brake road bike since they work better in the wet than rim brakes. The only thing better than them are hydraulic disc brakes.


I personally would go for something like this.

https://shopee.com.my/JAVA-S3-Disc-Brake-Ro...4857.2806267188
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post Jan 27 2020, 10:18 PM

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Another option here. Full hydraulic disc brakes.

https://shopee.com.my/Twitter-Sniper-2.0-Di...6755.2575706901

This post has been edited by jbcoder: Jan 27 2020, 10:19 PM
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post Jan 27 2020, 10:27 PM

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For budget rm3k, can try look at Scott Speedster30 11spd.
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post Jan 27 2020, 10:29 PM

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QUOTE(jbcoder @ Jan 27 2020, 10:07 PM)
Disc frames and rim brake frames are totally different, cannot modify to each other.
The problem with rim brakes on carbon bikes is you need special pads for carbon wheels and they don't work well in the wet compared to alloy rim brakes.
It's ok to get even cable disc brake road bike since they work better in the wet than rim brakes. The only thing better than them are hydraulic disc brakes.
I personally would go for something like this.

https://shopee.com.my/JAVA-S3-Disc-Brake-Ro...4857.2806267188
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post Jan 27 2020, 10:46 PM

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TS if you buy used you got many option to consider even name brand. For 3K, you can get specialized allez with 105 r7000, even cannondale caad 12, these 2 are consider a good entry level bike which when you cycle in group you can show face. I shit you not, sooner or later when you ride a twitter/camp/java, you'll find the urge to change to a good name brand road bike. Thats what I did, buy a used specialize frame and moded it out to look like price expensive but when in reality it cheap tongue.gif
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post Jan 27 2020, 10:51 PM

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QUOTE(JustcallmeLarry @ Jan 27 2020, 10:29 PM)
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post Jan 27 2020, 10:57 PM

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QUOTE(JustcallmeLarry @ Jan 27 2020, 08:18 PM)
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Go for Twitter, 3k can get Shimano 105. If Taiwan. U can sapu. Just ignore Merida and giant too expensip.

U can get at Rahang Cycle Seremban. If u not there use their price as the bench mark

RM 3,388, shimano 105 even r7000 for beginner it a steal. Only downside is 8.4kg but considered the best bike for 3k budget.

https://www.facebook.com/504351696382701/po...88359401315249/
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QUOTE(jbcoder @ Jan 27 2020, 10:07 PM)
Disc frames and rim brake frames are totally different, cannot modify to each other.
The problem with rim brakes on carbon bikes is you need special pads for carbon wheels and they don't work well in the wet compared to alloy rim brakes.
It's ok to get even cable disc brake road bike since they work better in the wet than rim brakes. The only thing better than them are hydraulic disc brakes.
I personally would go for something like this.

https://shopee.com.my/JAVA-S3-Disc-Brake-Ro...4857.2806267188
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Also worth noting even rim brakes have 2 diff version. One with center mounting hole and the other dual mounting hole to the fork

So it's abit annoying especially if u plan upgrade here and there.....worst is to upgrade frame. Macam macam restriction.

Like the above, or rim brakes or disk brakes or front mounted FD or use those clamps, di 2 ready (if u want to future proof) etc


3k, I suggest u get second hand bike ....service like new then use 1 to 2 years. Then change whole bike or go for custom.build.

Most important for the bike, it's not the component etc but please...please ....please for the love of God, get a frame that fits your size. Make sure u measure inseam in cm * 0.883 to get your seat post setup ( measure from middle of crank spindle to the seat post


Make sure you don't over extend the seat post. Stem etc can adjust later but also make sure the fork isn't cut and slammed when you buy. Else no way you can adjust the height of the stem later.



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post Jan 27 2020, 11:16 PM

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QUOTE(Boss262 @ Jan 27 2020, 10:46 PM)
TS if you buy used you got many option to consider even name brand. For 3K, you can get specialized allez with 105 r7000, even cannondale caad 12, these 2 are consider a good entry level bike which when you cycle in group you can show face. I shit you not, sooner or later when you ride a twitter/camp/java, you'll find the urge to change to a good name brand road bike. Thats what I did, buy a used specialize frame and moded it out to look like price expensive but when in reality it cheap tongue.gif
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but i see many here says the bike only matters a small percentage? A fit and powerful rider is more important?

This post has been edited by JustcallmeLarry: Jan 27 2020, 11:17 PM
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post Jan 27 2020, 11:22 PM

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Just my 2 cents.

Start reading up on different materials and types for frame and rims. Don't just jump in and get a carbon bike.

CFRP (carbon) frames are light but extremely rigid. Terrible for our local roads. They come with very skinny rims and low profile tires, also bad for our roads. Race seats are also very thin, skinny and uncomfortable. You will need those pants that have padding in the thighs if you plan on sitting down.

A light frame also carries no momentum, meaning it's less stable and more subject to minor changes from you or the road and wind.
They are meant for people who are pushing 90-100% all the time.

The plastic in the CFRP frame disintegrates over time, especially in the sun, whereas you can paint metal frames.

Aluminium frames are heavier but also very rigid. They are much stronger than carbon, so can take damage. Mostly used in mountain bikes.

Steel (chromoly) frames are great for long distance and comfort. They are tough, durable and the spring effect is good for soaking up imperfect roads like what we have here. It's also the strongest of the 3, so you'll find frames that are much thinner. They tend to be cheaper, but really good ones can cost the same as carbon or alu.

It's useful you read up about frames because this essentially is the bike. The rest of the components can be replaced.

A frame that fits your body is worth much more than anything else. Hence nobody can tell you what's best. If you can find a good bike maker, a custom frame is night and day different. Emphasis on good.

Buying used is a great way to get a good bike for less. Just make sure it's a good fit for you.

Don't get tempted by fancy components. In my case, I've got 21 speeds but only use the fastest one. Once you get strong enough, so will you. Disc brakes are great for feel and grip, but is an additional component. You'll only need it for carbon rims cuz the rims cost so much.

Sorry I can't talk about prices cuz I got my bike made a long time ago and haven't bought another since.
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post Jan 27 2020, 11:36 PM

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starting with durable steel frame or lightweight alu is ok.. next time u can change
but get good groupset like latest ultegra (derailleurs chainring, and cranks).. no nid include brake (105 level enuff) and advice start with clipless right of the bat (ultegra class pedals + cleats, and a good fitting shoe is very important). Practicing good cycling technique prevent injury especially to the achilles.

Wheels and hubs dun worry so much.. unless u plan to constantly hit at least 40km/h

will inflate initial cost.. but if u plan gonna be long term next time can change frame to carbon or titanium, and port over the parts.
also alternatively if u dun like Shimano system u can opt for SRAM.

This post has been edited by lee_lnh: Jan 27 2020, 11:38 PM
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post Jan 28 2020, 12:01 AM

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https://bicyclebuysell.com/

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post Jan 28 2020, 12:23 AM

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I found one guy customised bicycle frame..handmade frame... So nice the frame...
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post Jan 28 2020, 10:53 AM

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QUOTE(JustcallmeLarry @ Jan 27 2020, 11:16 PM)
but i see many here says the bike only matters a small percentage? A fit and powerful rider is more important?
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Nobody ever got shit for buying a Giant, Specialized or Canondale alloy bike.
The downside of buying used bike or frames is you don't know if the bike really fits you.
Buying a road bike is like getting a tailored shirt and each brand fits differently.
All good if the bike fits you and your budget but always buy the bike that fits your body not your wallet.
If you don't, your body will protest and then you'll need to spend again to buy another bike or fix your body.
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post Jan 28 2020, 12:43 PM

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QUOTE(JustcallmeLarry @ Jan 28 2020, 12:16 AM)
but i see many here says the bike only matters a small percentage? A fit and powerful rider is more important?
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For sure, your fitness level is more important. Bike also, if you don't setup properly then you won't utilize 100% of your power.
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post Jan 28 2020, 12:47 PM

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Can. But if you got more money can buy E bikes
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post Jan 28 2020, 01:40 PM

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When someone said group set 105.. what is complete set?

Saw few ads aging 105 group set but only consist of Rd, Rd and brake lever..
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post Jan 28 2020, 03:10 PM

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QUOTE(djtong @ Jan 27 2020, 11:22 PM)
Just my 2 cents.

Start reading up on different materials and types for frame and rims. Don't just jump in and get a carbon bike.

CFRP (carbon) frames are light but extremely rigid. Terrible for our local roads. They come with very skinny rims and low profile tires, also bad for our roads. Race seats are also very thin, skinny and uncomfortable. You will need those pants that have padding in the thighs if you plan on sitting down.

A light frame also carries no momentum, meaning it's less stable and more subject to minor changes from you or the road and wind.
They are meant for people who are pushing 90-100% all the time.

The plastic in the CFRP frame disintegrates over time, especially in the sun, whereas you can paint metal frames.

Aluminium frames are heavier but also very rigid. They are much stronger than carbon, so can take damage. Mostly used in mountain bikes.

Steel (chromoly) frames are great for long distance and comfort. They are tough, durable and the spring effect is good for soaking up imperfect roads like what we have here. It's also the strongest of the 3, so you'll find frames that are much thinner. They tend to be cheaper, but really good ones can cost the same as carbon or alu.

It's useful you read up about frames because this essentially is the bike. The rest of the components can be replaced.

A frame that fits your body is worth much more than anything else. Hence nobody can tell you what's best. If you can find a good bike maker, a custom frame is night and day different. Emphasis on good.

Buying used is a great way to get a good bike for less. Just make sure it's a good fit for you.

Don't get tempted by fancy components. In my case, I've got 21 speeds but only use the fastest one. Once you get strong enough, so will you. Disc brakes are great for feel and grip, but is an additional component. You'll only need it for carbon rims cuz the rims cost so much.

Sorry I can't talk about prices cuz I got my bike made a long time ago and haven't bought another since.
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post Jan 28 2020, 03:13 PM

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QUOTE(dickybird @ Jan 28 2020, 10:53 AM)
The downside of buying used bike or frames is you don't know if the bike really fits you.
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post Jan 28 2020, 03:18 PM

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QUOTE(ganz @ Jan 28 2020, 01:40 PM)
When someone said group set 105.. what is complete set?

Saw few ads aging 105 group set but only consist of Rd, Rd and brake lever..
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complete set for 105 is not worth anything just FYI



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