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post Jan 17 2020, 09:54 AM, updated 6y ago

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They r like locust plague rape and destroy our marine life..

They overfished their and now come raping our.. Knnccb

So please bomb kaw every boat and detain prison for 20 years..

Terima kasih..
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post Jan 17 2020, 09:57 AM

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why waste time and energy to prison them, just leave them in the water after blowing up their boats
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post Jan 17 2020, 09:59 AM

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why waste time and energy to prison them, just leave them in the water after blowing up their boats
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Ya I support.. We must protect our beautiful marine life for our future generation..

Knn.. Look at those China fishing boats go rape natuna Island.. Ptui.. Puki betul
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our navy / pdrm have enough ships to effectively patrol our waters first or not?
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QUOTE(COOLPINK @ Jan 17 2020, 10:09 AM)
our navy / pdrm have enough ships to effectively patrol our waters first or not?
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Of course not enough.. 60 years of songlap need to recover abit before can buy more ships..

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Later China dun wanna do business with us how
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Later China dun wanna do business with us how
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Don’t sell them musang king and ban them from coming to Sabah, they sure ragrets.
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You bomb, they stop buying palm oil. We already lost India and if China market also lose, all the plantations can really close shop. Don't forget there are so many other industries depending on them. If China tourist stop coming, you know what is the impact or who are we going to export all our durians.

They got us by our balls. There no way we can maneuver out from this except to kowtow to them. That is the sad reality which everyone needs to understand.

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QUOTE(msacras @ Jan 17 2020, 10:14 AM)
Don’t sell them musang king and ban them from coming to Sabah, they sure ragrets.
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QUOTE(Namelessone1973 @ Jan 17 2020, 03:15 AM)
You bomb, they stop buying palm oil. We already lost India and if China market also lose, all the plantations can really close shop. Don't forget there are so many other industries depending on them. If China tourist stop coming, you know what is the impact or who are we going to export all our durians.

They got us by our balls. There no way we can maneuver out from this except to kowtow to them. That is the sad reality which everyone needs to understand.
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Reality for people with no balls like you.

Other people stand up and fight.
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Kesian TS cant wait to plead his loyalty on friday.


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post Jan 17 2020, 10:18 AM

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QUOTE(ZerOne01 @ Jan 17 2020, 10:12 AM)
Later China dun wanna do business with us how
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We need to do what we need to do..
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Reality for people with no balls like you.

Other people stand up and fight.
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This is called fight smart and not fight like a stupid fool.

When economy fall and you lose your job that time, then let's see whether you will say the same thing or not.
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QUOTE(Namelessone1973 @ Jan 17 2020, 10:15 AM)
You bomb, they stop buying palm oil. We already lost India and if China market also lose, all the plantations can really close shop. Don't forget there are so many other industries depending on them. If China tourist stop coming, you know what is the impact or who are we going to export all our durians.

They got us by our balls. There no way we can maneuver out from this except to kowtow to them. That is the sad reality which everyone needs to understand.
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true..that's why Tun M stay silent on Uighur issue..any move China make will impact in Malaysia's economy..

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post Jan 17 2020, 10:22 AM

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QUOTE(Namelessone1973 @ Jan 17 2020, 10:15 AM)
You bomb, they stop buying palm oil. We already lost India and if China market also lose, all the plantations can really close shop. Don't forget there are so many other industries depending on them. If China tourist stop coming, you know what is the impact or who are we going to export all our durians.

They got us by our balls. There no way we can maneuver out from this except to kowtow to them. That is the sad reality which everyone needs to understand.
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This is for you and maybe some but not for me, I won't deal with locust with no character.. Ptui.. Keke
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QUOTE(Namelessone1973 @ Jan 17 2020, 03:19 AM)
This is called fight smart and not fight like a stupid fool.

When economy fall and you lose your job that time, then let's see whether you will say the same thing or not.
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People who stood up for what’s right and not just kowtowing to big powers are rewarded. See Vietnam.

You just need to have a vision of what you want to do in the future. But slave-minded people like you will always be slaves.
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post Jan 17 2020, 10:28 AM

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QUOTE(hightechgadgets8 @ Jan 17 2020, 10:11 AM)
i support knn vietcb
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post Jan 17 2020, 10:35 AM

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People who stood up for what’s right and not just kowtowing to big powers are rewarded. See Vietnam.

You just need to have a vision of what you want to do in the future. But slave-minded people like you will always be slaves.
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All I can say is strawberry generation with their naive views of the world. Before you even think of the future, you have to look at what is in front of you first. People are already losing jobs here and there and the reward is not even 100% assured.

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QUOTE(unforg1ven @ Jan 17 2020, 10:22 AM)
This is for you and maybe some but not for me, I won't deal with locust with no character.. Ptui.. Keke
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QUOTE(Namelessone1973 @ Jan 17 2020, 10:35 AM)
All I can say is strawberry generation with their naive views of the world. Before you even think of the future, you have to look at what is in front of you first. People are already losing jobs here and there and the reward is not even 100% assured.
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Not agreed with u.. Korean didn't sell themselves.. Not Japan.. Not Indon.. What asking is protecting our marine life from rapist.

Palm oil yes so what.. U reap what u soil.. Those jungle timber u whack before planting palm oil..
Durian.. Who care if China don't import.. How many durian plantation owner here?
China investors? Mostly on property..

We need to see China as competitor not saviour..

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QUOTE(unforg1ven @ Jan 17 2020, 09:54 AM)
They r like locust plague rape and destroy our marine life..

They overfished their and now come raping our.. Knnccb

So please bomb kaw every boat and detain prison for 20 years..

Terima kasih..
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QUOTE(unforg1ven @ Jan 17 2020, 10:44 AM)
Not agreed with u..  Korean didn't sell themselves.. Not Japan.. Not Indon.. What asking is protecting our marine life from rapist.

Palm oil yes so what.. U reap what u soil.. Those jungle timber u whack before planting palm oil..
Durian.. Who care if China don't import.. How many durian plantation owner here?
China investors? Mostly on property..

We need to see China as competitor not saviour..
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Is our economy as strong as Korea or Japan? Is Indonesia's economy so dependent on China like our economy? Are you willing to give up all the rail, MRT projects? Don't go and complain when government can't continue such projects. Don't go and complain when government need to collect more taxes.

Easy for youngsters like you to say you reap what you soil but when all the poor Felda planters cannot even afford to have decent meal or send their children to school that time, don't go out and blame this and that.

Stupid people see China as competitor. Clever people see China as opportunity.

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There are no winning in this.
The best way is to keep up our patrol boats to prevent other countries from invading the sea.
Especially those who are fishing or building land facilities/military exercises.

There is no need to condemn it publicly. Let our actions do the talking.
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QUOTE(Namelessone1973 @ Jan 17 2020, 10:55 AM)
Is our economy as strong as Korea or Japan? Is Indonesia's economy so dependent on China like our economy? Are you willing to give up all the rail, MRT projects? Don't go and complain when government can't continue such projects. Don't go and complain when government need to collect more taxes.

Easy for youngsters like you to say you reap what you soil but when all the poor Felda planters cannot even afford to have decent meal or send their children to school that time, don't go out and blame this and that.

Stupid people see China as competitor. Clever people see China as opportunity.
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QUOTE(shirohamada @ Jan 17 2020, 11:02 AM)
It's reap what you sow.
Sama2 bodo.
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I know. I just follow his spelling because to make him understand.
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QUOTE(Namelessone1973 @ Jan 17 2020, 10:55 AM)
Is our economy as strong as Korea or Japan? Is Indonesia's economy so dependent on China like our economy? Are you willing to give up all the rail, MRT projects? Don't go and complain when government can't continue such projects. Don't go and complain when government need to collect more taxes.

Easy for youngsters like you to say you reap what you soil but when all the poor Felda planters cannot even afford to have decent meal or send their children to school that time, don't go out and blame this and that.

Stupid people see China as competitor. Clever people see China as opportunity.
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MRT project not free ya..
Priority should give to felda but not those plantations creating haze every June..
Wake up, China as opportunity is like 15 years ago, when I go there to earn big buck.. Now what kind of opportunity? Become durian seller? Or sell. Ur ass there? What business u can do thee e? Except multi level, forex, what u can do?
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QUOTE(msacras @ Jan 17 2020, 10:14 AM)
Don’t sell them musang king and ban them from coming to Sabah, they sure ragrets.
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I think the 'ragrets" would be coming from the Orchard owners and durian exporters. laugh.gif China is paying good money for those durians until locals cant afford eating them anymore.
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QUOTE(Namelessone1973 @ Jan 17 2020, 11:03 AM)
I know. I just follow his spelling because to make him understand.
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India, China dont buy sell to brazil, africa, ect ect ect Russia wanted to barter trade fighter jets before.

Btw I love India, I love China. But dont force people. We are a sovereign nation, we gotta protect our own resources, be it virgin forest or virgin ocean.
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QUOTE(unforg1ven @ Jan 17 2020, 11:04 AM)
MRT project not free ya..
Priority should give to felda but not those plantations creating haze every June..
Wake up, China as opportunity is like 15 years ago, when I go there to earn big buck.. Now what kind of opportunity? Become durian seller? Or sell. Ur ass there? What business u can do thee e? Except multi level, forex,  what u can do?
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They already got Malaysia by our balls no thanks to our former PM. We are already part of the belt and road plan and we can't wiggle away or rich enough to pay them off. That is the reality we have to accept. How to give priority to Felda? Palm oil price do not care who is the producer. Don' be so naive.
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I think the 'ragrets" would be coming from the Orchard owners and durian exporters.  laugh.gif  China is paying good money for those durians until locals cant afford eating them anymore.
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Don’t give a fucuk to those kommies jilater. They can keluar all they wanted.
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QUOTE(Namelessone1973 @ Jan 17 2020, 11:12 AM)
They already got Malaysia by our balls no thanks to our former PM. We are already part of the belt and road plan and we can't wiggle away or rich enough to pay them off. That is the reality we have to accept. How to give priority to Felda? Palm oil price do not care who is the producer. Don' be so naive.
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Easy.. Whoever got caught burning then forfeit the land as part of healthy care compensation.. Need to kill one or 2 birdies as show..

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QUOTE(msacras @ Jan 17 2020, 11:14 AM)
Don’t give a fucuk to those kommies jilater. They can keluar all they wanted.
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i agree in protecting our malaysian waters.. bombing them is fine as a deterrant but what happens when they bomb back? you think malaysian navy can battle against china navy or viet navy?
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QUOTE(Namelessone1973 @ Jan 17 2020, 10:15 AM)
You bomb, they stop buying palm oil. We already lost India and if China market also lose, all the plantations can really close shop. Don't forget there are so many other industries depending on them. If China tourist stop coming, you know what is the impact or who are we going to export all our durians.

They got us by our balls. There no way we can maneuver out from this except to kowtow to them. That is the sad reality which everyone needs to understand.
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spineless cinapek doh.gif doh.gif

u see PRC pull out business from vietnam or indo ka? they also not sohai suddenly pull out coz they enroach others waters lar..they also want money

tunaseng think only money only doh.gif doh.gif doh.gif
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QUOTE(unforg1ven @ Jan 17 2020, 11:20 AM)
Easy.. Whoever got caught burning then forfeit the land as part of healthy care compensation.. Need to kill one or 2 birdies as show..
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Haze mostly coming from Indonesia. Can you go to Indonesia and seize their lands?
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i agree in protecting our malaysian waters.. bombing them is fine as a deterrant but what happens when they bomb back? you think malaysian navy can battle against china navy or viet navy?
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No we cant. No 1 this will trigger confrontation which our country cant afford. 2nd, their coast guard ships are bigger that our navy patrol boats. Go figure it out.
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QUOTE(shadow_walker @ Jan 17 2020, 11:24 AM)
spineless cinapek  doh.gif  doh.gif

u see PRC pull out business from vietnam or indo ka? they also not sohai suddenly pull out coz they enroach others waters lar..they also want money

tunaseng think only money only  doh.gif  doh.gif  doh.gif
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But but but we need their monies.  sweat.gif
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Why use kommies monies if we can ask for democracy monies?

We can ask for investment from murika in return with right to setup base at our shores or sea so they can counter tongsan properly.
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As a malaysia cainis,

I approve dato LCW beat Lin Dan in badminton match
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QUOTE(Namelessone1973 @ Jan 17 2020, 11:27 AM)
Haze mostly coming from Indonesia. Can you go to Indonesia and seize their lands?
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Cannot but sg did ban import of palm oil and products from company causing haze

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Cannot but sg did ban import of palm oil and products from company causing haze
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Did it stop the haze from coming? You can't do anything unless Indonesia themselves are serious in combating this problem. Those who say boycott palm oil and this problem will go away are just plain naive. If palm oil is no longer lucrative, they will just change to other crops but slash and burn practice will still continue.
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QUOTE(slaveone @ Jan 17 2020, 09:57 AM)
why waste time and energy to prison them, just leave them in the water after blowing up their boats
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Why use kommies monies if we can ask for democracy monies?

We can ask for investment from murika in return with right to setup base at our shores or sea so they can counter tongsan properly.
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QUOTE(Namelessone1973 @ Jan 17 2020, 11:36 AM)
Did it stop the haze from coming? You can't do anything unless Indonesia themselves are serious in combating this problem. Those who say boycott palm oil and this problem will go away are just plain naive. If palm oil is no longer lucrative, they will just change to other crops but slash and burn practice will still continue.
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You can severely punish local companies who practice slash and burn in Indonesia.
Such as investigating KLK and check if they practice unsustainable palm oil plantation in Indonesia.

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You can severely punish local companies who practice slash and burn in Indonesia.
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Out of the 29 companies that was caught and taken action in Indonesia, only 4 were Malaysian subsidiaries and 1 Singaporean companies. Malaysia can punish those 4 companies but if Indonesia is not serious against their own companies, nothing will change.

The bigger culprit of haze are the small scale farmers instead of large companies. Studies have shown that 59% of fire originate from outside timber and oil-palm lands and they contribute to 62% of the overall smoke from Sumatra. In Kalimantan the figures are even higher. Fires outside timber and oil-palm lands generated 73% of all emissions and 76% of smoke.

The slash and burn practise is their tradition. Even though there are laws, Indonesia is not serious in enforcing them especially against small scale farmers who are the poorest.
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stupid TS, u think marehsia dam power ya? if we are powerful enuff and dare to whack china and viet, we will be controlling south china sea already....
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QUOTE(anakMY @ Jan 17 2020, 12:00 PM)
stupid TS, u think marehsia dam power ya? if we are powerful enuff and dare to whack china and viet, we will be controlling south china sea already....
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Now China start with natuna islands, fleet of china fishing boats like locust plague going gang bang.. So if you kkc small stand behind, those kkc big will go whack them 1st.
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QUOTE(Namelessone1973 @ Jan 17 2020, 11:56 AM)
Out of the 29 companies that was caught and taken action in Indonesia, only 4 were Malaysian subsidiaries and 1 Singaporean companies. Malaysia can punish those 4 companies but if Indonesia is not serious against their own companies, nothing will change.

The bigger culprit of haze are the small scale farmers instead of large companies. Studies have shown that 59% of fire originate from outside timber and oil-palm lands and they contribute to 62% of the overall smoke from Sumatra. In Kalimantan the figures are even higher. Fires outside timber and oil-palm lands generated 73% of all emissions and 76% of smoke.

The slash and burn practise is their tradition. Even though there are laws, Indonesia is not serious in enforcing them especially against small scale farmers who are the poorest.
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That's why u need world governance body.. Palm oil problem is after product of timber industry without replanting tree..

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That's why u need world governance body.. Palm oil problem is after product of timber industry without replanting tree..
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The problem is not palm oil. The problem is slash & burn practice by a lot of farmers in Indonesia and a lot of them are not the big companies. If palm oil is gone, there will always be other crops and the problem will continue if they do not stop the practice.
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QUOTE(Raddus @ Jan 17 2020, 11:37 AM)
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Vroom... vroom.
Keep blame China without solving our internal problem.
I don't mind team up with other SEA to see how they counter the big panda.
I just sit outside and watch the show....
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QUOTE(Namelessone1973 @ Jan 17 2020, 11:56 AM)
Out of the 29 companies that was caught and taken action in Indonesia, only 4 were Malaysian subsidiaries and 1 Singaporean companies. Malaysia can punish those 4 companies but if Indonesia is not serious against their own companies, nothing will change.

The bigger culprit of haze are the small scale farmers instead of large companies. Studies have shown that 59% of fire originate from outside timber and oil-palm lands and they contribute to 62% of the overall smoke from Sumatra. In Kalimantan the figures are even higher. Fires outside timber and oil-palm lands generated 73% of all emissions and 76% of smoke.

The slash and burn practise is their tradition. Even though there are laws, Indonesia is not serious in enforcing them especially against small scale farmers who are the poorest.
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Every bit of % reduction counts.
Besides, Indonesia has been known to blame foreign companies for causing the haze. Yes, we know that the contribution of Malaysian companies is minor, but if we show to them how tough we are against this, they’ve one less excuse to use.


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QUOTE(Namelessone1973 @ Jan 17 2020, 03:35 AM)
All I can say is strawberry generation with their naive views of the world. Before you even think of the future, you have to look at what is in front of you first. People are already losing jobs here and there and the reward is not even 100% assured.
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The Vietcongs who fought for a united Vietnam are strawberries?

They had nothing. They fought in pajamas and straw hats. Yet they won. The reward is a generation later. Yet they reaped the reward nonetheless.

Spineless people will always think short-term and only of their skins. Cowards.
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post Jan 17 2020, 01:32 PM

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just rotan those mfers dulu. at least 30 times make sure they remember not to come here again

This post has been edited by warpig: Jan 17 2020, 01:32 PM

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