You bomb, they stop buying palm oil. We already lost India and if China market also lose, all the plantations can really close shop. Don't forget there are so many other industries depending on them. If China tourist stop coming, you know what is the impact or who are we going to export all our durians.

They got us by our balls. There no way we can maneuver out from this except to kowtow to them. That is the sad reality which everyone needs to understand.

This is called fight smart and not fight like a stupid fool.

When economy fall and you lose your job that time, then let's see whether you will say the same thing or not.

All I can say is strawberry generation with their naive views of the world. Before you even think of the future, you have to look at what is in front of you first. People are already losing jobs here and there and the reward is not even 100% assured.

Tell that to all the people who buy Proton cars.

Is our economy as strong as Korea or Japan? Is Indonesia's economy so dependent on China like our economy? Are you willing to give up all the rail, MRT projects? Don't go and complain when government can't continue such projects. Don't go and complain when government need to collect more taxes.

Easy for youngsters like you to say you reap what you soil but when all the poor Felda planters cannot even afford to have decent meal or send their children to school that time, don't go out and blame this and that.

Stupid people see China as competitor. Clever people see China as opportunity.

This post has been edited by Namelessone1973: Jan 17 2020, 10:57 AM

I know. I just follow his spelling because to make him understand.

They already got Malaysia by our balls no thanks to our former PM. We are already part of the belt and road plan and we can't wiggle away or rich enough to pay them off. That is the reality we have to accept. How to give priority to Felda? Palm oil price do not care who is the producer. Don' be so naive.

Haze mostly coming from Indonesia. Can you go to Indonesia and seize their lands?

Lepas sembayang Jumaat nanti, sila pergi showroom Proton dan marah sesiapa yang kerja disana atau nak beli kereta Proton kerana semua pembelot negara.

Did it stop the haze from coming? You can't do anything unless Indonesia themselves are serious in combating this problem. Those who say boycott palm oil and this problem will go away are just plain naive. If palm oil is no longer lucrative, they will just change to other crops but slash and burn practice will still continue.

Out of the 29 companies that was caught and taken action in Indonesia, only 4 were Malaysian subsidiaries and 1 Singaporean companies. Malaysia can punish those 4 companies but if Indonesia is not serious against their own companies, nothing will change.

The bigger culprit of haze are the small scale farmers instead of large companies. Studies have shown that 59% of fire originate from outside timber and oil-palm lands and they contribute to 62% of the overall smoke from Sumatra. In Kalimantan the figures are even higher. Fires outside timber and oil-palm lands generated 73% of all emissions and 76% of smoke.

The slash and burn practise is their tradition. Even though there are laws, Indonesia is not serious in enforcing them especially against small scale farmers who are the poorest.

The problem is not palm oil. The problem is slash & burn practice by a lot of farmers in Indonesia and a lot of them are not the big companies. If palm oil is gone, there will always be other crops and the problem will continue if they do not stop the practice.