I don’t think it’s that simple mathematics calculation la.
Kenapa Rakyat hari hari tertipu PH? PLUS 18%
Kenapa Rakyat hari hari tertipu PH? PLUS 18%
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Jan 18 2020, 12:11 AM
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I don’t think it’s that simple mathematics calculation la.
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Jan 18 2020, 12:11 AM
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Jan 18 2020, 12:13 AM
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Jan 18 2020, 12:14 AM
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Jan 18 2020, 12:17 AM
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QUOTE(ohman @ Jan 18 2020, 12:13 AM) First of all,houseloan have to pay interest, whether it is 3 generations or 3 days it is still the same because the current value is mostly the same.Second of all,rm8 today doesn't have the same value as rm8 in 2040. |
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Jan 18 2020, 12:22 AM
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QUOTE(lurkingaround @ Jan 17 2020, 10:24 PM) . so actually epf & khazanah kena scam ?Afaik, companies normally pay out dividends from their gross profits. If loss, usually no dividends are paid out. In the case of PLUS, it seems dividends are paid out to the EPF and Khazanah from revenue, even if PLUS had to incur losses by doing that. Hence PLUS still has about RM30 billion of debts after about 30 years of operation in collecting tolls of about RM4 billion yearly. Wonder where all the collected toll money gone.? . wth they aint so smart after all or the politicians r too smart |
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Jan 18 2020, 12:23 AM
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QUOTE(aeonbig @ Jan 18 2020, 12:17 AM) First of all,houseloan have to pay interest, whether it is 3 generations or 3 days it is still the same because the current value is mostly the same. how much is a bowl of noodle in year 2000?Second of all,rm8 today doesn't have the same value as rm8 in 2040. now is rm6/7/8. |
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Jan 18 2020, 12:37 AM
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logic is simple
either TS pay higher toll rate to shorten the concession (plus take the risk of highway in bad maintenance mode after handling back to JKR/LLM) or TS pay a lower toll rate with the concession extended until your great grand children also wonder why they still need to pay toll your choice. |
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Jan 18 2020, 12:38 AM
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Taniah pengundi
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Jan 18 2020, 12:39 AM
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Trust PH better than trust rubbish religious group or party....those are worse than animal brain
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Jan 18 2020, 12:40 AM
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QUOTE(nivota @ Jan 18 2020, 12:37 AM) logic is simple When the time comes, we extend again with same trick.either TS pay higher toll rate to shorten the concession (plus take the risk of highway in bad maintenance mode after handling back to JKR/LLM) or TS pay a lower toll rate with the concession extended until your great grand children also wonder why they still need to pay toll your choice. |
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Jan 18 2020, 12:42 AM
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Jual PLUS, toll reduce, rakyat happy. But EPF, PNB not happy.
Mamakdir then made ultimate decision by this This post has been edited by ayamxxx: Jan 18 2020, 12:21 PM |
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Jan 18 2020, 12:44 AM
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QUOTE(Clement1001 @ Jan 18 2020, 12:11 AM) https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/4893196/The thread above, the maths lagi serious and terror. |
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Jan 18 2020, 10:03 AM
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QUOTE(lurkingaround) One of the responsibility of a government is to ensure a smooth-running, peaceful and orderly society, besides taking care of national defence, border security, foreign relations, school education, basic healthcare, etc. Good and smooth-running road/highway infrastructure was and should be the government's responsibility, in order for businesses to run efficiently = government collects more tax. That was why we have roadtax since the British colonial days. QUOTE(lurkingaround @Jan 17 2020 @ 11:39 PM) Extra 20 years of toll collection from 2038 to 2058 will cost extra about RM53 billion in 2038. So, this new deal will cost the Rakyat an extra RM16 billion in 2038, which is equivalent to about RM6 billion in 2020. . The above figures may need some fine-tuning but whatever it is, the Rakyat has been taken for a ride by the ex-BN-government-orchestrated PLUS concession, ie having to pay PLUS tolls for 70 donkey years, especially when they have to balik kampung for festive celebrations. . P S - Won't be surprised if in the 2040s, the govt will extend PLUS tolls for another 20 years from 2058 to 2078 by giving another 18% discount. . QUOTE(brapa? @ Jan 18 2020, 12:22 AM) .https://www.thestar.com.my/news/nation/2020...govt-of-the-day ....... according to this news report, Dr M received 3 offers to buy PLUS and 1 offer from PLUS to retain. PLUS is owned by Khazanah and EPF. He chose the offer from PLUS, ie 18% discount, no toll hike from 2020-2038 but 20-years extension of the concession from 2038 to 2058. Common sense would tell us that PLUS's offer will only benefit PLUS(= Khazanah and EPF) in the long run, as is the 3 other offers to buy PLUS will only benefit the buyers. . Normally, the government is mainly funded by income tax and business/import/export tax. Since the 1980s, many governments in the world have conjure up new ways to tax the Rakyat mostly to enrich itself and its cronies or to buy votes, eg privatization schemes, GST/VAT/SST, mandatory motor/health insurance, excise tax on cars, city congestion tax, parking fees, sugar tax, prohibitive cigarette/liquor tax, tourist tax, etc. ....... Pity most of the Rakyat in the world have to suffer their evil and corrupt governments. So sad. . This post has been edited by lurkingaround: Jan 21 2020, 12:53 AM |
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