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 Modenas to build Kawasaki bikes?, Cheaper Z900 maybe? Fingers crossed.

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post Sep 11 2023, 09:23 AM

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QUOTE(alexei @ Sep 11 2023, 09:19 AM)
I don't know, right now I just don't want it on my bikes
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Any reason?

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post Sep 11 2023, 10:22 AM

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QUOTE(skyblu3 @ Sep 11 2023, 09:23 AM)
Any reason?
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I have tendency to over-think (and over-complicate) things, and not knowing full well how it works in bad situations can rob my riding confidence (Though I'm sure Bosch or Continental ABS engineers are smarter than me)

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will there be non-ideal situations when it pulses and refuses my braking inputs?
will a faulty ABS pump cause my bike to suddenly shut off?
if I'm trail braking will it suddenly pulse and cause me to lose my line?
if the ABS pump cause a crash, will the insurance believe me?


There's a lot of demos of ABS on road and gravels showing how much it improves braking distances and avoiding slides and skids. Good to watch knowing when it's all good, it's really good
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post Sep 11 2023, 11:15 AM

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i think there is a test done by china riders on the 450nk, where they switch off the abs, the braking distance improved. the abs is alway on cant be turned off for the bike.
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post Sep 11 2023, 12:00 PM

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QUOTE(alexei @ Sep 11 2023, 10:22 AM)
I have tendency to over-think (and over-complicate) things, and not knowing full well how it works in bad situations can rob my riding confidence (Though I'm sure Bosch or Continental ABS engineers are smarter than me)
There's a lot of demos of ABS on road and gravels showing how much it improves braking distances and avoiding slides and skids. Good to watch knowing when it's all good, it's really good
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QUOTE(basilisk @ Sep 11 2023, 11:15 AM)
i think there is a test done by china riders on the 450nk, where they switch off the abs, the braking distance improved. the abs is alway on cant be turned off for the bike.
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ABS works. No questions about it. In 95% of on road riding and emergency situations, ABS (and other electronic aids) will make a difference. In everyday riding with changing road conditions, traffic, sand etc, I appreciate the additional safety net.

It's only special and rare circumstances on perfect conditions that manual braking be better. Even so, there are a lot of different ABS performance on bikes..some better than others. Some with very low threshold and very aggressive, some will allow you to be very hard on braking before it engages.
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post Sep 11 2023, 12:27 PM

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Don't get me wrong I'm not lobbying against ABS
just a personal choice that's all
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post Sep 12 2023, 01:55 PM

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tmworld got bike
confirm got abs versys 250

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post Sep 12 2023, 08:56 PM

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fuiyoh got ceremony summore.. biggrin.gif

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post Sep 12 2023, 10:21 PM

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QUOTE(basilisk @ Sep 12 2023, 08:56 PM)
fuiyoh got ceremony summore.. biggrin.gif

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at least 100 units sold pretty good numbers despite all the 'baik beli' gang thumbup.gif
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post Sep 14 2023, 10:57 AM

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used bike kambing soon....

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post Sep 17 2023, 02:46 AM

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ZX25R with a slip on sounds like sex



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post Sep 20 2023, 11:37 AM

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modenas eliminator 250??
a cruiser like bike without forward control...
so don hv to kaki kangkang la

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the 90s version design kinda special cos of the bobtail...

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post Sep 20 2023, 12:15 PM

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QUOTE(basilisk @ Sep 20 2023, 11:37 AM)
modenas eliminator 250??
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I thought it's a 400?
https://ridermagazine.com/2023/06/06/2024-k...st-look-review/
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post Sep 20 2023, 12:16 PM

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QUOTE(alexei @ Sep 20 2023, 12:15 PM)
yes 400,

they can always lower it to 250 for msia market.

if priced right, sure got b2 buy wan...
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post Sep 20 2023, 01:36 PM

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QUOTE(basilisk @ Sep 20 2023, 12:16 PM)
yes 400,

they can always lower it to 250 for msia market.

if priced right, sure got b2 buy wan...
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I see what you mean now

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post Sep 30 2023, 12:52 AM

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QUOTE(basilisk @ Sep 20 2023, 12:16 PM)
yes 400,

they can always lower it to 250 for msia market.

if priced right, sure got b2 buy wan...
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the Jaguh is based on an eliminator right?
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post Sep 30 2023, 02:04 PM

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QUOTE(sakaic @ Sep 30 2023, 12:52 AM)
the Jaguh is based on an eliminator right?
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yes eliminator 175.
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post Oct 2 2023, 12:29 PM

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QUOTE(Nightstalker1993 @ Sep 17 2023, 03:46 AM)
ZX25R with a slip on sounds like sex


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Fuhhhhh.... I haven't heard that sound since the 90s. Actually, the original ZXR250 sounded more like an F1 car coz it had a higher pitched scream if I remember correctly.

One of the problems owners had back then was with the valves. Small valves the size of 10 sen coins + ridiculous RPMs meant you really had to keep up with the valve adjustments. Back then people were just too cheap to pay for proper maintenance... they'd thrash it until it started rattling, and then they'd just keep thrashing it until it needed a top overhaul.
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post Oct 2 2023, 03:23 PM

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QUOTE(ZZR-Pilot @ Oct 2 2023, 12:29 PM)
Fuhhhhh.... I haven't heard that sound since the 90s. Actually, the original ZXR250 sounded more like an F1 car coz it had a higher pitched scream if I remember correctly.

The 1997 ZXR250 can rev higher rpm than this latest model. 18000rpm if i'm not wrong
and it's carburator.
Carburator bikes sounds nicer and those days do not have so much of all these euro regulations. Bikes in that era were louder and sounds more raw.
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sigh....all that and still no versys h2 sad.gif

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