elaborate further with examples and IPTA names

Setuju this. Those African come here in droves studying diploma in management at some obscure private U at the age of 40s... Bang local amoi, give birth to curly white slit eye baby without marriage cert... True story.

the day twitter and FB is banned in msia, is the day we can get away from all this nonsense.

The ptptn was set up as a corporate body, and have no power to enforce quality....

The powers rests with MoE (student and university quality) and MQE (course quality)....both failing in their jobs....

MoE lost moral ability to enforce quality when ipta is allowed to sacrifice quality for ketuanan policy....mqe is toothless in enforcement....

Lim Cock Swing

Moe cannot enforce. They come from same ipta.

i tot IPTS like MMU, Uniten, Uni Telekom etc requires min SPM upper class or dunno how many minimun As

some more these unis are using english as teaching medium

Reason to put minimum STPM is to limit future PTPTN loan applicants

What?
Got pipu point a gun at ur head force u take the rare subject at IPTS?

The ones u mentioned are established.

U know there are degree mills college like Geomatika, Alpha kolej, etc... those very dubious ipts. There are a lot more.

if i not mistaken there are some from the u the malaysia famous pedo study

Cukur 10-20 years down the range, average D and bewbs size of Malaysians increase by >20%.

A minority of students have stpm now....the bulk of bumis have matrik, or the preferred asasi....

Those nons with money avoid stpm and go do international pre-u like a levels ausmat etc....or some "foundation".....

Utp, unisel kek

depends from where he want to start the changes. either from bottom to top or top to bottom.

each has their pros and cons. you want changes according to your suit, go become MP & then edu minister.

ok include stpm/matriks/asasi/a-level as minimum apply ptptn loans

even total number students would be far less than current one that include anyone with spm

this way ptptn annual funding can be reduced drastically / cut costs

Ipts and private college uni same...
Di Mana Ada demand disitu Ada college uni...

But when come out...what u learn is out of date and not the skills that the company want. Demand for market need is totally opposite compared to demand for college.
Hence jobless everywhere

this! I don't understand someone's picking on IPTA, saying that they're bad. you have to look at the curriculum. most subjects are theory..hence lacking hands-on skills, as well as industry-related theoretical knowledge.
e.g Biotechnology students aren't taught on pharmaceutical/manufacturing-related knowledge. lepas tu apply jawatan QA/QC.

The problem isn't the colleges per se, but the demand, expectation of everybody that they CAN and DESERVE a degree....

Only the top 25-30% of the population have the intellect to successfully pursue a full standard academic degree....the next 40% is able to undergo a skill based technical training....and the rest do the routine works like clerical, sales, assembly line etc ....

In recognition of such population distribution, countries like Germany provide training accordingly to the appropriate sections of the population....more people in technical post-secondary education than in academic.....

Msia is grossly distorted because of the unique policies in place....

Ketuanan policies pushed many under qualified students into academic studies....

The buy-with-money private system allows anyone with money to buy any qualification irrespective of qualification or ability...(and because of this demand without any controls, effy ipts flourished).....

The end result is many people who shouldn't even be in academic studies, graduate with a piece of paper....

But they really don't have the intellectual ability to perform the job that the piece of paper claims....hence we have the current situation..... unemployable graduates, grads not working in fields they are trained in...etc....

That that happens when you commoditify education....