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post Jan 15 2020, 10:20 AM

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no need real cert also can be minister, so seems legit
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post Jan 15 2020, 10:32 AM

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QUOTE(hirano @ Jan 15 2020, 09:10 AM)
True. Many fishy IPTS degree mills. Should be closed.
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Yes agreed! The same goes with those fishy private college, and even those established one should be scrutinized as well. It is not longer an education, it's just a money grab scam.
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post Jan 15 2020, 10:59 AM

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QUOTE(pakmulau @ Jan 15 2020, 10:19 AM)
1999 gave advice to young mother asking about Kolej lagenda (?) langkawi offer to her son. that time 3000 for 1 sem i think and got loan ptptn maybe la.

i said tak payah la kak because i have doubt about their diploma at that time regarding to MQA la. that time no internet hujung jari to google.

i hope i gave the right advice at that time la.
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My relative graduated from that college. After graduate got job in tiger bank, IT department. Now already senior position, more than 12 years there.
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post Jan 15 2020, 11:23 AM

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QUOTE(thesoothsayer @ Jan 15 2020, 09:24 AM)
Only if IPTA is purely on merit.
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QUOTE(drowning @ Jan 15 2020, 10:32 AM)
Yes agreed! The same goes with those fishy private college, and even those established one should be scrutinized as well. It is not longer an education, it's just a money grab scam.
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People forget.....

The "liberalisation" of education started in the late 80s....

The NEP policies and quota system was in full force....depriving many qualified nons of education.....as a blow valve, private higher education, then tightly controlled and poorly viewed, was liberalised, and the private sector encouraged to set up colleges....later granted rights to award degrees (university college status) and higher degrees (full uni status)....

To help finance this, ptptn system was set up.....instead of public funding, the then gov pushed the responsibility to the student....

In other words ipts was allowed to exist so ipta can be "controlled" to comply with NEP policies....

Along the way, things started to go wrong....ptptn is easily scammed to extract money from public (it's tax payer funds) leaving the debt with students....

Controls of quality by MoE is poor....the new mqe wasn't effective....

Two human activities should not be privatised.... education and health.....once you leave it to market forces, skews starts to develop.....

And here we are....lol
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post Jan 15 2020, 11:28 AM

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fire few people last year all from ipta, how?
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post Jan 15 2020, 11:29 AM

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QUOTE(roymustang @ Jan 15 2020, 10:18 AM)
cukurlah rakyat malaysia semua highly educated

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post Jan 15 2020, 11:32 AM

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QUOTE(Jescon @ Jan 15 2020, 09:26 AM)
This I agree. I've actually met "graduates" from this fishy IPTS, most of them regret like hell.
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During college, they didn't feel how big RM60,000 fees is because to optimistic...

Wait until finish college, when end up with RM1500 salary.. bring home RM1300 after epf..


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post Jan 15 2020, 11:40 AM

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ptptn is the fuel to low class education
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post Jan 15 2020, 11:42 AM

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QUOTE(keny2020j @ Jan 15 2020, 12:58 PM)
fire(d) few people last year all from ipta, how?
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Fired few only; Not whole bunch

Reason for fired?
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post Jan 15 2020, 11:44 AM

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QUOTE(limeuu @ Jan 15 2020, 12:53 PM)
People forget.....

The "liberalisation" of education started in the late 80s....

The NEP policies and quota system was in full force....depriving many qualified nons of education.....as a blow valve, private higher education, then tightly controlled and poorly viewed, was liberalised, and the private sector encouraged to set up colleges....later granted rights to award degrees (university college status) and higher degrees (full uni status)....

To help finance this, ptptn system was set up.....instead of public funding, the then gov pushed the responsibility to the student....

In other words ipts was allowed to exist so ipta can be "controlled" to comply with NEP policies....

Along the way, things started to go wrong....ptptn is easily scammed to extract money from public (it's tax payer funds) leaving the debt with students....

Controls of quality by MoE is poor....the new mqe wasn't effective....

Two human activities should not be privatised.... education and health.....once you leave it to market forces, skews starts to develop.....

And here we are....lol
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then how now?
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post Jan 15 2020, 11:50 AM

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QUOTE(dean.ab25 @ Jan 15 2020, 07:46 AM)
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mana bole tutup. nanti kroni nak cari makan macam mana?
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post Jan 15 2020, 11:53 AM

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QUOTE(Syie9^_^ @ Jan 15 2020, 11:44 AM)
then how now?
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Impose minimum STPM qualification to apply PTPTN loan (as limit, filter students intake system)

next day slowly the cancer will cure itself
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post Jan 15 2020, 11:56 AM

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Many claim to have uk, aus, us, blabla twin program or affiliated but never heard of those also, don't know how true is the claim also.
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QUOTE(lagista @ Jan 15 2020, 01:23 PM)
Impose minimum STPM qualification to apply PTPTN loan (as limit, filter students intake system)

next day slowly the cancer will cure itself
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post Jan 15 2020, 12:03 PM

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QUOTE(vanpersie91 @ Jan 15 2020, 01:20 PM)
mana bole tutup. nanti kroni nak cari makan macam mana?
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die you babi kroni.

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post Jan 15 2020, 12:08 PM

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ipts laugh.gif buyer beware,
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If got the word โ€œinternationalโ€ in the name i would be very suspicious already
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post Jan 15 2020, 12:11 PM

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QUOTE(Syie9^_^ @ Jan 15 2020, 11:42 AM)
Fired few only; Not whole bunch

Reason for fired?
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rude, skip work, low work quality and some immoral behavior in office . After fired them, no more itpa graduate in my office liao. Only Ipts and oversea graduates
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post Jan 15 2020, 12:12 PM

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QUOTE(fazlythewarrior @ Jan 15 2020, 09:37 AM)
Agree. And perhaps MQA and JPT should be given kuasa untuk penguatkuasaan to check whether all their course accredited or not on time. Most popular college will do this every year even before MQA come to visit to check.
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Most people do not understand that KPT, MQA and IPTA is the problem.

1. Money
KPT gets RM50b ++ out of RM250b budget annually. This is tax payers money. Where did it go? It went to fund IPTA. University like UiTM gets 2b, UM gets another 2b. But in return their KPI is to produce PHD students etcs. So they fake pass them lor. That's why cannot get job and they end up as public servants or grab drivers. Tax payer again pay for their salary. But they come disturb your business 99.

In comparison, PTPTN is in deficit of 2b over 20 years. But that's because PTPTN borrowed at 4% and lend out at 1%. So IPTS at fault?

2. KPT and MQA

The reason IPTS quality has dropped is because MQA is just a piece of work. KPT should shut down MQA. IPTS has been paying MQA salary yet they come up with half brain or no brain regulations. 15 to 20% of the course we study is MPU subject. Does that help employability? Also MQA sets program standard. You know la MQA hires highly qualified UM PhD type.

Long story short - close down MQA and stop funding IPTA.
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post Jan 15 2020, 12:12 PM

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QUOTE(pakmulau @ Jan 15 2020, 10:19 AM)
1999 gave advice to young mother asking about Kolej lagenda (?) langkawi offer to her son. that time 3000 for 1 sem i think and got loan ptptn maybe la.

i said tak payah la kak because i have doubt about their diploma at that time regarding to MQA la. that time no internet hujung jari to google.

i hope i gave the right advice at that time la.
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Kolej lagenda that time gooding girls.... ๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜

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