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post Jan 16 2020, 08:06 AM

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QUOTE(Ned_Fromthenorth @ Jan 15 2020, 04:51 PM)
Bungalow belongs to MIL. MIL and brother stay there, why your uncle suddenly feel his kids should have a right in the bungalow?

I think MIL is right to leave all to the brother, in case suddenly got people like your uncle come in want half, then brother need to move out find another house.

Brother stay with MIL, maybe brother all the while pay for upkeep of bungallw?
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So if the brother get married and his wife suddenly inherit the Bangalow, it’s the same logic right ?

But you do say it’s the MIL business

But all said and done why is there a reverse inheritance applied to my uncle ?

The property his wife is holding has half share of the MiL and she doesn’t contribute a cent to the instalment.

Doesn’t this become his business due to the reverse inheritance applied to him ?
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QUOTE(renomahans @ Jan 16 2020, 08:06 AM)
So if the brother get married and his wife suddenly inherit the Bangalow, it’s the same logic right ?

But you do say it’s the MIL business

But all said and done why is there a reverse inheritance applied to my uncle ?

The property his wife is holding has half share of the MiL and she doesn’t contribute a cent to the instalment.

Doesn’t this become his business due to the reverse inheritance applied to him ?
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Wtf is reverse inheritance???
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post Jan 16 2020, 08:52 AM

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QUOTE(renomahans @ Jan 16 2020, 08:00 AM)
As much as I know, the uncle pays for all The expenses and bear everything just that after 15 years, he would like to see his wife contribute to the household expenses but this is not to be.m due to that property.

Why would his MIL quickly get his wife to buy that property and want half share ? This boils a lot of question, is the MIL want to have some inheritance from my uncle ? Because this looks like a smart reverse inheritance thingy.

You mean to say if your parents split their inheritance fairly among members but you get zero, you would be keeping quiet because you fear being called a sour puss ?

My uncle is thinking of this, he is wondering why his MIL is not thinking about the grandchildren.
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Oh.. I see what you mean by reverse inheritance .. lol...

You said that MIL intends to give her half share to the wife right? So where got “reverse inheritance”? You think too much... i think MIL trying to protect daughter in case marriage fails.... now that marriage seems ok, she will give all to daughter ...

Becsuse she has given the house (50%) to daughter, she feels that is ok to give the bungalow to son only...you might thibk it’s not fair but bear in mind for older generation , often times the daughter get ZERO! The wife considered lucky.. lol

Your uncle wants his kids to have share? Sorry but different surname! That’s the facts of life!

This post has been edited by aspartame: Jan 16 2020, 08:53 AM
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post Jan 16 2020, 08:59 AM

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QUOTE(renomahans @ Jan 16 2020, 08:06 AM)
So if the brother get married and his wife suddenly inherit the Bangalow, it’s the same logic right ?

But you do say it’s the MIL business

But all said and done why is there a reverse inheritance applied to my uncle ?

The property his wife is holding has half share of the MiL and she doesn’t contribute a cent to the instalment.

Doesn’t this become his business due to the reverse inheritance applied to him ?
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As explained earlier ... the mother paid 100k for deposit... yes, she never paid a single cent after that, that’s why she intend to give her share to the wife also ... with this move, she is not reverse inheriting from your uncle ..

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post Jan 16 2020, 09:29 AM

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QUOTE(renomahans @ Jan 16 2020, 08:06 AM)
So if the brother get married and his wife suddenly inherit the Bangalow, it’s the same logic right ?

But you do say it’s the MIL business

But all said and done why is there a reverse inheritance applied to my uncle ?

The property his wife is holding has half share of the MiL and she doesn’t contribute a cent to the instalment.

Doesn’t this become his business due to the reverse inheritance applied to him ?
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if the brother get married and want to gift bungalow to his wife it is up to him. not your uncle business liao. the MIL not paid 100k downpayment liao? not enough? the property his wife holding already inherited to her so what sthe issue really?

This post has been edited by Ned_Fromthenorth: Jan 16 2020, 09:32 AM
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post Jan 16 2020, 01:59 PM

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QUOTE(aspartame @ Jan 16 2020, 08:52 AM)
Oh.. I see what you mean by reverse inheritance .. lol...

You said that MIL intends to give her half share to the wife right? So where got “reverse inheritance”? You think too much... i think MIL trying to protect daughter in case marriage fails.... now that marriage seems ok, she will give all to daughter ...

Becsuse she has given the house (50%) to daughter, she feels that is ok to give the bungalow to son only...you might thibk it’s not fair but bear in mind for older generation , often times the daughter get ZERO! The wife considered lucky.. lol

Your uncle wants his kids to have share? Sorry but different surname! That’s the facts of life!
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I talk to him already he not pursue for the matriarchal house

But he wants to deal directly with this reverse inheritance issue. Although the MIL say will eventually tsf the property back to daughter but nothing set in stone - no will no contract.

If anything happen to the MiL, touchwood the 1/2 shares will go 50% to father then 50% to brother

Then all the 15years of wife paying for the instalment and not saving for the kids will go down the drain
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post Jan 16 2020, 02:01 PM

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QUOTE(aspartame @ Jan 16 2020, 08:59 AM)
As explained earlier ... the mother paid 100k for deposit... yes, she never paid a single cent after that, that’s why she intend to give her share to the wife also ... with this move, she is not reverse inheriting from your uncle ..
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She is doing reverse inheritance on my uncle
Because the wife no money to help households expenses for that lousy property loan payment
100k is very little, my uncle wealth worth much more than that
But it’s this reverse inheritance that it’s bothering him
No will written
Mil share could end up with FIL and brother and wife divide 33.33% each if no will


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post Jan 16 2020, 02:04 PM

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QUOTE(Ned_Fromthenorth @ Jan 16 2020, 09:29 AM)
if the brother get married and want to gift bungalow to his wife it is up to him. not your uncle business liao. the MIL not paid 100k downpayment liao? not enough? the property his wife holding already inherited to her so what sthe issue really?
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Update from uncle, I advise him not to pursue the bungalow n he agreed. He ask me because I from finance field but I still noon.

But it’s this reverse inheritance from the Mil that is bothering him

She is indirectly claiming an inheritance from him? Because 15 years wife salary all going to the property and uncle has to cough up all the household expenses.

Mil has not written a will and it could ended up 1/3 share between uncle wife, FIL and brother if anything happens to her.

This post has been edited by renomahans: Jan 16 2020, 02:04 PM
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post Jan 16 2020, 02:11 PM

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QUOTE(renomahans @ Jan 16 2020, 08:00 AM)
As much as I know, the uncle pays for all The expenses and bear everything just that after 15 years, he would like to see his wife contribute to the household expenses but this is not to be.m due to that property.

Why would his MIL quickly get his wife to buy that property and want half share ? This boils a lot of question, is the MIL want to have some inheritance from my uncle ? Because this looks like a smart reverse inheritance thingy.

You mean to say if your parents split their inheritance fairly among members but you get zero, you would be keeping quiet because you fear being called a sour puss ?

My uncle is thinking of this, he is wondering why his MIL is not thinking about the grandchildren.
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Wife side family issue wife side family own settle leh. Not your uncle's business. Parents at most is take care of the children, not the grandchildren. Grandchildren your uncle as man's responsibility.

Chinese most of them still priorities son more than daughter. My dad made my bro inherit most of his assets, with small portion go to my sis and me. We think its fair because my bro is taking over the business and we daughters not working in the same industry. My non-chinese mum not happy then make will to distribute her side of assets with mostly real estates to end up all the 3 children got the similar individual value laugh.gif . My bro still got more though, but the difference is not something major to cause unhappiness among siblings. All these arrangements are made known to us the children so we won't break the family when they are not around.

Even if I got nothing I will be ok too, parents' job only to provide until graduation, once graduated its the children responsibility to feed themselves and their own family.
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post Jan 16 2020, 02:19 PM

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QUOTE(renomahans @ Jan 16 2020, 01:59 PM)
I talk to him already he not pursue for the matriarchal house

But he wants to deal directly with this reverse inheritance issue. Although the MIL say will eventually tsf the property back to daughter but nothing set in stone - no will no contract.

If anything happen to the MiL, touchwood the 1/2 shares will go 50% to father then 50% to brother

Then all the 15years of wife paying for the instalment and not saving for the kids will go down the drain
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QUOTE(renomahans @ Jan 16 2020, 02:04 PM)
Update from uncle, I advise him not to pursue the bungalow n he agreed. He ask me because I from finance field but I still noon.

But it’s this reverse inheritance from the Mil that is bothering him

She is indirectly claiming an inheritance from him? Because 15 years wife salary all going to the property and uncle has to cough up all the household expenses.

Mil has not written a will and it could ended up 1/3 share between uncle wife, FIL and brother if anything happens to her.
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Ok, good that he not pursuing bungalow issue...

About the house...dun overthink the issue ... if really worried, talk about it with MIL.... but first, has MIL willed the bungalow away or transferred to son already? Most likely not... then in event of death, the wife will get some share because no will ... her share might be enough to offset the “half house” loss.. take it like contra... lol

Old people very sensitive with will issue... as long as bungalow is still with MIL, then your uncle is “safe”... if there is talk about transferring bungalow to son, then only your uncle should ask the wife to bring up the issue of house “one shot”.. ha ha
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post Jan 16 2020, 02:33 PM

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Don't tell me he doesn't have any assets of his own?
Inheritance from wife to kids it's wife side issue.
His own inheritance to his own kids it's his issue.
Don't mix it up.

If he feel reluctant all these years he's feeding the family for 15 years, he should have raised that up. The property is legal black and white.
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post Jan 16 2020, 03:58 PM

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QUOTE(Fiona Chin @ Jan 16 2020, 02:11 PM)
Wife side family issue wife side family own settle leh. Not your uncle's business. Parents at most is take care of the children, not the grandchildren. Grandchildren your uncle as man's responsibility.

Chinese most of them still priorities son more than daughter. My dad made my bro inherit most of his assets, with small portion go to my sis and me. We think its fair because my bro is taking over the business and we daughters not working in the same industry. My non-chinese mum not happy then make will to distribute her side of assets with mostly real estates to end up all the 3 children got the similar individual value  laugh.gif . My bro still got more though, but the difference is not something major to cause unhappiness among siblings. All these arrangements are made known to us the children so we won't break the family when they are not around.

Even if I got nothing I will be ok too, parents' job only to provide until graduation, once graduated its the children responsibility to feed themselves and their own family.
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The issue now is MiL use reverse inheritance on my uncle

She sort of claiming from him, you see if she is gone the half share will go to the brother and father in law.

And all this while for 15 years my uncle has to toil for the household expenses while the wife is tied up with the property loan

My uncle now no issue with the Bangalow, I persuaded him
But he is not happy with the burden of the property which is useless and what’s worse his wife is paying for it and it will go to the brother and father in law as mother in law did not do a will.
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QUOTE(shakku @ Jan 16 2020, 02:33 PM)
Don't tell me he doesn't have any assets of his own?
Inheritance from wife to kids it's wife side issue.
His own inheritance to his own kids it's his issue.
Don't mix it up.

If he feel reluctant all these years he's feeding the family for 15 years, he should have raised that up. The property is legal black and white.
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Well looks like he fell into mother in law trap
Of course he has property of his own
That property his wife gotten into has 50% share own by mother in law
So I ask you after she pass on who is it going to ?
1/3 to his own wife, 1/3 to father in law and 1/3 to brother

So I ask you isn’t this. Reverse inheritance that the mother in law trapped him ?

He didn’t know when he pak tor with my auntie, 1 year before the MIL force her to buy. So after married only he discovered this.
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So let me get this straight:

Bro gets 100% of the RM3mil house
Sis also supposed to get 100% of the RM500k house
But sis gets only 50% of the RM500k house due to shared title?

But sis is paying 80% (RM400k loan) on the house
Due to this, sis hardly contributes to her own household welfare
Uncle is sour over the whole thing, seeing the blatant inequality being exercised
The money being put to settle the 400k loan couldve been used directly to sapot uncle's family expenditure

At the worst case scenario, bro gets 100% of 3mil house and a portion of 500k house, meanwhile sis doesnt even get full equity on the house she been paying for her life

Amirite?
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She is giving the 500k to her daughter what, which is your uncle wife. What is the problem with that? Cut the BS la. Next time the house will be passed down to the children

Money cannot bring go grave

Deswai work hard and save more money. Stop spending money when you can't afford. Showing off is just a short period
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QUOTE(renomahans @ Jan 16 2020, 03:58 PM)
The issue now is MiL use reverse inheritance on my uncle

She sort of claiming from him, you see if she is gone the half share will go to the brother and father in law.

And all this while for 15 years my uncle has to toil for the household expenses while the wife is tied up with the property loan

My uncle now no issue with the Bangalow, I persuaded him
But he is not happy with the burden of the property which is useless and what’s worse his wife is paying for it and it will go to the brother and father in law as mother in law did not do a will.
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Get your aunt to persuade her mother to relinquish her name on the house title so that she (your aunt) has the full title. This should not be a problem right?

The property investment may appear useless now but who knows what will happen in another 10 or 15 years? Just hang on the property as selling it now will incur losses.
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Want it for the children lol.
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QUOTE(ketupatlazat @ Jan 16 2020, 04:15 PM)
So let me get this straight:

Bro gets 100% of the RM3mil house
Sis also supposed to get 100% of the RM500k house
But sis gets only 50% of the RM500k house due to shared title?

But sis is paying 80% (RM400k loan) on the house
Due to this, sis hardly contributes to her own household welfare
Uncle is sour over the whole thing, seeing the blatant inequality being exercised
The money being put to settle the 400k loan couldve been used directly to sapot uncle's family expenditure

At the worst case scenario, bro gets 100% of 3mil house and a portion of 500k house, meanwhile sis doesnt even get full equity on the house she been paying for her life

Amirite?
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Lol you read it correctly. That's his argument but won't happen in real life.

First say inheritance problem then say mil still alive. Even if there's any Will, it won't be valid until mil died.
Then argued it's reverse inheritance problem because suspect mil didn't make will so her share on properties could be divided fairly among fil, her son and daughter. If that's the case ts should cukur because they should get a piece of pie over the bungalow as well if there's no will set.

Inb4 uncle=ts bodoh and greedy.

Never cukur mil paid 100k down payment for house that might worth more than one million now. Otherwise the useless husband might not be able to pay monthly rental for family house and the wife might have to work even harder.
Mil stay with son and plan to stick to son whom will take care of her, how is it not fair for the son to inherit the bungalow they are staying? Meanwhile your children didn't contributed anything, how dare they want some share over it?

Even the mil didn't lead the wife to buy the house, in the end you will still get nothing, her bungalow her will to give her son, none of your business.
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QUOTE(renomahans @ Jan 16 2020, 02:04 PM)
Update from uncle, I advise him not to pursue the bungalow n he agreed. He ask me because I from finance field but I still noon.

But it’s this reverse inheritance from the Mil that is bothering him

She is indirectly claiming an inheritance from him? Because 15 years wife salary all going to the property and uncle has to cough up all the household expenses.

Mil has not written a will and it could ended up 1/3 share between uncle wife, FIL and brother if anything happens to her.
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First thing to do, this is not a finance issue, its going to be a legal issue.
Talk to MIL, if she dont write will to transfer 500k house to wife, then call lawyer and see what u can fight for.

Then close case la.

By the way, 400k house only pay 1.8k a month, if you uncle alot of money and assets.. 1.8k shouldnt be such a big burden to him...
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QUOTE(Eulm585 @ Jan 19 2020, 03:10 AM)
First thing to do, this is not a finance issue, its going to be a legal issue.
Talk to MIL, if she dont write will to transfer 500k house to wife, then call lawyer and see what u can fight for.

Then close case la.

By the way, 400k house only pay 1.8k a month, if you uncle alot of money and assets.. 1.8k shouldnt be such a big burden to him...
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Agree with this. Ask for will writing in both bungalow to son, 500k house to daughter.

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