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KennyKB
post Jan 15 2020, 08:29 AM

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QUOTE(renomahans @ Jan 14 2020, 10:13 PM)
Actually if the wife speak out- The mother may consider.

But she is timid and bullied by the brother not dare to speak up
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The wife should not speak out and sour the relationship with her mother and brother. It is unlikely to change anything. Just accept that the bungalow is going to her brother. Inheritance does not have to be distributed equally.

Your uncle should not stir shit that he had to pay most of the household expenses because his wife paid for her house. This is the norm in many households. The husband pays everything while his wife keeps her salary for herself. Unless husband's salary is insufficient then wife will contribute.

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post Jan 15 2020, 08:40 AM

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Your uncle has no business meddling with his MIL’s finance.
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post Jan 15 2020, 08:48 AM

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QUOTE(cdspins @ Jan 14 2020, 11:30 PM)
Ya, the uncle is really sour putting his wife in a difficult situation with her mother.
I don't understand why you keep saying that they get nothing, maybe in comparison 100k is nothing to 3 million? But if you always compare there is no way it can be balance. And in the end, the law is just that it is prerogative of the grandma. As long as she made a will and it it legitimate.

Both son and daughter should always assume that you will not inherit anything. The daughter should be gracious that they grow up OK, have education, instead of in debt. It is totally up to the grandma how he want to use her money and who she want to give to. It is legitimate if grandma don't want to give a cent to the daughter and even request 50% of the house ownership

And besides, as you said, the son is getting married and if he had son. Your uncle want share for his children at this point of time without even considering that the grandma is still living well....

Such hypocrite.

Most funny of all is that your uncle complaint that he is the only one supplying for "his" company. If he cannot support her wife and children might as well don't get married. Thousand and millions of household have housewife that is not working and I don't see those husband complaining. Even if it is very tight, the husband can always sit down and discuss with the wife to maybe sell the house... to lighten the burden. But no, he wants the house and also more for his children...

All in all from your description, I think your uncle is a bad character.
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I know him, he is not a bad character
He supports the family with his own hard work
He has money to save for some properties for his kid future
But he is not happy with this bad investment that his wife got into
It was by persuasion of her mother
For 15 years this property doesn’t generate much rental income to set off the loan. It is so bad that it’s empty half the time despite the efforts to advertise.
His wife low salary can’t pay anything to help the family. My uncle is frustrated that recently hardly any savings because expenditure has gone up
To sell this property means value <loan, how he gonna pay for a property own by his wife mom ?
He doesn’t want the house
He wants his kids to have the house
Heck he even ask his wife to put will to exclude him from those properties
He wants his kids to have a good future
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post Jan 15 2020, 08:50 AM

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QUOTE(blackie19 @ Jan 15 2020, 08:40 AM)
Your uncle has no business meddling with his MIL’s finance.
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Then why his MiL burden his wife with a loss making property ?
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post Jan 15 2020, 08:51 AM

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QUOTE(ScooterBoi @ Jan 14 2020, 11:44 PM)
Ok one final post...

Ts,

what you are telling here is from your uncle. Maybe there is a reason your aunty is not telling why she prefers to continue paying instalments to the 500k house in joint names with her mother.

If anything happens to her, her mother will get some money when it is sold. So will her husband and children.

And in case there is divorce and her husband left her, she still have a house under her name.

If I were her, I will be very careful if the husband ask to put his name onto the house title after the mother's share is transferred.
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He doesn’t want the property. The house they are living in are All paid by him.
He wants it for the kids, he doesn’t care if the name is 100% own by wife

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post Jan 15 2020, 09:17 AM

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QUOTE(renomahans @ Jan 15 2020, 08:50 AM)
Then why his MiL burden his wife with a loss making property ?
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That is between his wife and his MIL.

Again, not his business.

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post Jan 15 2020, 09:24 AM

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QUOTE(renomahans @ Jan 14 2020, 06:30 PM)
My uncle married his wife for 15 years got one son and one daughter

His wife mother got 2 properties:
1) wife share with mother 50/50. Mother help pay down payment 100k for 500k property. But the wife work her ass off to pay for property (most of her salary go to the property). As a result, uncle have to tanggung most of the household expenses for 15 years. He feel like he is indirectly paying for the property in which the wife mother has 50% share. The mother has said that she will pass the 500k property to his wife. But she pay most of it.

2) Bangalow worth 3 mil where mother and brother is living there. Wife mother decided to pass the whole Bangalow to the brother who was single.

Issue: my uncle has 2 kids (my cousins) and he feel it is unfair that they lost their inheritance. They inherit a property that is mostly paid by his wife as mother only help 100k downpayment. My uncle not interested in the Bangalow, he only want his kids to benefit. Wife decided not to contest and give to the brother everything. But recently the brother found love and is about to be engaged.

Issue2: my uncle has good relations with his mother in law n brother. But his constant persuasion with his wife on this matter would threaten to make relations worse as this is a sensitive matter.

Issue3: my uncle feel unfair he has to work hard and sweat while the wife unable to contribute due to the mother persuasion to make her buy this property when he was bf and gf with her.

Issue4: my uncle not interested in the Bangalow but he wants their kids to have a share for their future

Conclusion: if you were in his shoes, what would you do?
1) leave it as relations with in laws more important
2) fight for children all the way
3) do it diplomatically but wife still not listen then forget it
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highlighted part is what the Wife's Mother thinking as well.
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post Jan 15 2020, 09:34 AM

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u want share u buy yourself. dont aiming ppl share.
Greedy will lose everything
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post Jan 15 2020, 09:51 AM

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for inheritance there is not need to be fair

u contribute directly or indirectly it is at your own will, nobody force u. stop being sour.


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post Jan 15 2020, 09:52 AM

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your uncle got taken for a ride, unfortunately this is msia so shit like this happenss, hence never co sign with family members.

this thread is chuck full of people who dont understand the financial problems that come from doing this, with one even saying its not wrong.

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post Jan 15 2020, 10:08 AM

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Just my 2 cents,
Inheritance doesnt need to be fair.
Even if the mother in law wants to give the house(bungalow) to charity nothing can be done.
The bungalow belong to her anyway.

The bungalow is not his nor his wife to begin with, he can be angry if the mother in law wanted the 500k house to be split between the brother and his wife.

Parents owes their children nothing, they have provided shelter, food and education to their children. Getting inheritance is an added bonus.

I think using children as a reason is quite selfish. having children is his wife and his decision and responsibility. if they want their children to have a better future then its their responsibility not their grandmothers.


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post Jan 15 2020, 10:42 AM

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Your uncle is greedy.

If he wants his children to have a good life, then he needs to work his ass off to EARN it.

Just because he married a wife whom mother has a huge bungalow doesn't entitle him nor his children to the bungalow. He didn't EARN it.
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post Jan 15 2020, 10:45 AM

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Your uncle is just materialistic. Stay away from him. Got the house already leave it as it is la.. The mother want to give the bungalow to him is not his business. I will tell your uncle go focus on your own family first la.
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post Jan 15 2020, 10:49 AM

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Not your place TS.

Grandmother has the rights.
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post Jan 15 2020, 11:02 AM

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[quoteyour aunt's auntyomahans,Jan 15 2020, 08:51 AM]
He doesn’t want the property. The house they are living in are All paid by him.
He wants it for the kids, he doesn’t care if the name is 100% own by wife
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So what is his problem? What is he complaining about? Why is he whining that his wife prefer to continue paying instalments to a house in joint names with her mother instead of aiding him in putting food on the table? He is financially capable of meeting the needs of the family, does he not? How can he say it is a burden as if your aunty is uncaring and prefers to invest some savings into a house as an investment?

As it is, are they renting or owning their own house? The house is under your uncle's name or joint names with his wife? Is this what he is complaining about? The house he is paying is in joint names with his wife, while the house his wife is paying is in joint names with her mother?

Don't forget that her mother paid 100k as first payment on the house, and your aunty only continue the instalments. Don't also forget that the house is considered as 100% belonging to your aunty. Or did her brother pestering the mother to transfer her name on the house title to him? I don't think so. So again, there is no issue for your uncle to complain and whine over.

Regarding the bungalow your uncle's mother-in-law and brother-in-law is staying, I suppose it is where your aunty and her brother were raised up. It was their family home.

If she prefers her brother to continue living there after their mother passed away, it is her prerogative... her choice. So again, what is the problem your uncle is whining about here? That she loves her brother more than her own children?

Her family house is supposedly her and her brother heritage. It is not your uncle's family home. Yet you title this thread as 'My uncle has inheritance problem'. So you think your uncle is untitled to his wife's family home? That he should 'fight' on behalf of his children?

As I said in previous posts, stay away from your uncle and don't listen too much to him. His attitude towards his wife is not perfect. Open your eyes and you might notice he is whining too much over his wife uncaring attitude and that he is 'forced' to be the sole provider to his family. Really? She never spend a cent on her family and never buy anything for her children?

Oh, such a burden I am bearing! My wife is saying monthly instalments on a house in joint names with her mother. My children is suffering!



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post Jan 15 2020, 04:51 PM

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Bungalow belongs to MIL. MIL and brother stay there, why your uncle suddenly feel his kids should have a right in the bungalow?

I think MIL is right to leave all to the brother, in case suddenly got people like your uncle come in want half, then brother need to move out find another house.

Brother stay with MIL, maybe brother all the while pay for upkeep of bungallw?
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post Jan 15 2020, 11:46 PM

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QUOTE(renomahans @ Jan 15 2020, 08:48 AM)
I know him, he is not a bad character
He supports the family with his own hard work
He has money to save for some properties for his kid future
But he is not happy with this bad investment that his wife got into
It was by persuasion of her mother
For 15 years this property doesn’t generate much rental income to set off the loan. It is so bad that it’s empty half the time despite the efforts to advertise.
His wife low salary can’t pay anything to help the family. My uncle is frustrated that recently hardly any savings because expenditure has gone up
To sell this property means value <loan, how he gonna pay for a property own by his wife mom ?
He doesn’t want the house
He wants his kids to have the house
Heck he even ask his wife to put will to exclude him from those properties
He wants his kids to have a good future
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Hmm... either the way you describe the situation is unclear or your moral compass is partially wrong in determining character of a greedy sour person.

Isn't every parents working hard to support their family? Not everybody is born with a silver spoon.
Maybe there is some miscommunication that previously his wife is contributing to the family and after having the house not contributing. But if this is the issue, it is more of a communication problem between husband and wife. Your uncle has no right at all to eye for the grandma bungalow even if it is not for himself and for his children. More over the grandma is still alive.

And the funny thing is that the house that the wife had been paying for is already 15 years and you said that selling it means need to pay as value < loan? Unless the property went down by 40% which is very unlikely, I'm sure selling the property will have gains, besides 100k is already paid off by grandma.

Everybody also want their kids to have a head start, but eyeing for grandma bungalow is not the way. Your uncle need to be the man if he wanted to provide good life for his kid.

Anyway, there are already so much message from the forum clearly stated that there is something wrong with the uncle behavior... being sour, being greedy. Just a note, greedy doesn't necessary means greedy to own something for yourself, it also mean greedy to own something for your spouse, children, family, group and etc....

In the end, know your moral compass... it is so clear what is right and what is wrong
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[quote=ScooterBoi,Jan 15 2020, 11:02 AM]
[quoteyour aunt's auntyomahans,Jan 15 2020, 08:51 AM]
He doesn’t want the property. The house they are living in are All paid by him.
He wants it for the kids, he doesn’t care if the name is 100% own by wife
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[/quote]

So what is his problem? What is he complaining about? Why is he whining that his wife prefer to continue paying instalments to a house in joint names with her mother instead of aiding him in putting food on the table? He is financially capable of meeting the needs of the family, does he not? How can he say it is a burden as if your aunty is uncaring and prefers to invest some savings into a house as an investment?

As it is, are they renting or owning their own house? The house is under your uncle's name or joint names with his wife? Is this what he is complaining about? The house he is paying is in joint names with his wife, while the house his wife is paying is in joint names with her mother?

Don't forget that her mother paid 100k as first payment on the house, and your aunty only continue the instalments. Don't also forget that the house is considered as 100% belonging to your aunty. Or did her brother pestering the mother to transfer her name on the house title to him? I don't think so. So again, there is no issue for your uncle to complain and whine over.

Regarding the bungalow your uncle's mother-in-law and brother-in-law is staying, I suppose it is where your aunty and her brother were raised up. It was their family home.

If she prefers her brother to continue living there after their mother passed away, it is her prerogative... her choice. So again, what is the problem your uncle is whining about here? That she loves her brother more than her own children?

Her family house is supposedly her and her brother heritage. It is not your uncle's family home. Yet you title this thread as 'My uncle has inheritance problem'. So you think your uncle is untitled to his wife's family home? That he should 'fight' on behalf of his children?

As I said in previous posts, stay away from your uncle and don't listen too much to him. His attitude towards his wife is not perfect. Open your eyes and you might notice he is whining too much over his wife uncaring attitude and that he is 'forced' to be the sole provider to his family. Really? She never spend a cent on her family and never buy anything for her children?

Oh, such a burden I am bearing! My wife is saying monthly instalments on a house in joint names with her mother. My children is suffering!
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Nicely explained
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post Jan 16 2020, 08:00 AM

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QUOTE(cdspins @ Jan 15 2020, 11:46 PM)
Hmm... either the way you describe the situation is unclear or your moral compass is partially wrong in determining character of a greedy sour person.

Isn't every parents working hard to support their family? Not everybody is born with a silver spoon.
Maybe there is some miscommunication that previously his wife is contributing to the family and after having the house not contributing. But if this is the issue, it is more of a communication problem between husband and wife. Your uncle has no right at all to eye for the grandma bungalow even if it is not for himself and for his children. More over the grandma is still alive.

And the funny thing is that the house that the wife had been paying for is already 15 years and you said that selling it means need to pay as value < loan? Unless the property went down by 40% which is very unlikely, I'm sure selling the property will have gains, besides 100k is already paid off by grandma.

Everybody also want their kids to have a head start, but eyeing for grandma bungalow is not the way. Your uncle need to be the man if he wanted to provide good life for his kid.

Anyway, there are already so much message from the forum clearly stated that there is something wrong with the uncle behavior... being sour, being greedy. Just a note, greedy doesn't necessary means greedy to own something for yourself, it also mean greedy to own something for your spouse, children, family, group and etc....

In the end, know your moral compass... it is so clear what is right and what is wrong
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As much as I know, the uncle pays for all The expenses and bear everything just that after 15 years, he would like to see his wife contribute to the household expenses but this is not to be.m due to that property.

Why would his MIL quickly get his wife to buy that property and want half share ? This boils a lot of question, is the MIL want to have some inheritance from my uncle ? Because this looks like a smart reverse inheritance thingy.

You mean to say if your parents split their inheritance fairly among members but you get zero, you would be keeping quiet because you fear being called a sour puss ?

My uncle is thinking of this, he is wondering why his MIL is not thinking about the grandchildren.


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