Discussion FAM Discussion thread., Tengku Abdullah quits, who's next ?
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 Jul 16 2007, 10:30 AM, updated 19y ago
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QUOTE Over the past 10 years, the performance could only be described as an embarrassment. Malaysia is the last ranked team in the Asian Cup. It is ranked 149 in the Fifa world rankings. It is likely more FAM officials will either resign or decline to contest at the FAM annual congress in September. What do you think of this action? Will this improve our national football team? |
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Jul 16 2007, 10:34 AM
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Kudos to him for resigning.. I think it's time those sitting on top felt responsible for what they did.
If only Rafidah and our Semi Value would do the same too. ( not to forget that bocor f**ker ) |
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Jul 16 2007, 10:37 AM
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Only cowards would resign, he has not got the gut to tell everybody that what he has been upto for the past 10 years? It will not change a thing, I have come to a conclusion that Malaysians can't play football.
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 Jul 16 2007, 10:38 AM
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About Time!!!
 No more free lunches for the dude in yellow!  Host event, international eyes on You!  |
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Jul 16 2007, 10:43 AM
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Yay finally they ahole's gone..but like its gonna make a difference onli
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Jul 16 2007, 10:45 AM
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Resigning does not help us a lot
the thing is our mentality in football is zero what we know, football is football not about knowledge, psychology & fitness i can't imagine, Akmal Rizal can still play for Malaysia coz the last time i saw him at Alamanda, he seems fat like me, even bigger, chubby everywhere Malaysian footballer lack of everything, not just skill but knowledge, mentality, psychology & the most important thing fitness i dunno whether FAM has it's fitness test system or not if has, i bet the system is not the international system but locally made by stupid FAM right now FAm taught footballer on how to make money in football not with academic material, no psychology training, no caunselling knowledge can't imagine how Azizon Kadir right now, i bet he's insane now  |
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Jul 16 2007, 10:49 AM
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once a loser is always a loser...
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Jul 16 2007, 10:52 AM
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Someone who is capable and strict should take over the position. we hope for the best la...if that happens maybe we can improve.
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Jul 16 2007, 10:53 AM
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he should step down long time ago... but heard another YOUNG POLITICIAN will replace him, so what's that going to make a difference? can't they find someone who REALLY knows football instead of those "his-father's-son"?
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Jul 16 2007, 10:54 AM
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I got a feeling that it's too little too late.
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Jul 16 2007, 10:56 AM
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Good for him, good for FAM, relief for the fans, but Malaysian football after this???
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Jul 16 2007, 10:56 AM
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Tengku is not the fault that our national football team lose badly. It's rather the players and coaches. Tengku isn't the one playing on the field right?
His resignation means nothing if the players continue their losing streak. |
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 Jul 16 2007, 10:57 AM
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QUOTE(marxmannn @ Jul 16 2007, 10:53 AM) he should step down long time ago... but heard another YOUNG POLITICIAN will replace him, so what's that going to make a difference? can't they find someone who REALLY knows football instead of those "his-father's-son"?   Please Malaysia wake-up!  This post has been edited by PIRATES!: Jul 16 2007, 10:58 AM |
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Jul 16 2007, 11:00 AM
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Sack the old birds in the national team too. Including the coaches.
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Jul 16 2007, 11:04 AM
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how naive u guys are.
1 person resign, then suddenly the team can become world class players?? |
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Jul 16 2007, 11:05 AM
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QUOTE(dopodplaya @ Jul 16 2007, 10:56 AM) Tengku is not the fault that our national football team lose badly. It's rather the players and coaches. Tengku isn't the one playing on the field right? yes, but this tengku do nothing in the last 10 years since the laos 1-0 win over us exactly 10 years ago...His resignation means nothing if the players continue their losing streak. |
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Jul 16 2007, 11:06 AM
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QUOTE(Ranny @ Jul 16 2007, 11:04 AM) how naive u guys are. seems like u follow malaysian football....last night.1 person resign, then suddenly the team can become world class players?? this kind of action should be done years ago...not yesterday... his father should follow him to....and the secretary...wats his name This post has been edited by how to save a life: Jul 16 2007, 11:08 AM |
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Jul 16 2007, 11:07 AM
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if sumone of the same quality step up of course laa they wont make much difference..but if sumone better step up then trust me,they CAN make a difference..sumone who truly understand what comes with the job and knows his field..loving the job(and the money) is not enough..
if even the fans can identify the players weaknesses..i dun see why they cant..if the players fitnesses are that of a 14 year old girl(NST a few years back),employ a quality fitness coach,especially at the club level and bar them from playing if they dun improve...akmal rizal may be fat but he sure is one of the most technically gifted player u can ever see in malaysia..hes 26..shed down on the flabby part and he will be a decent player in no time at all..get sum people who can boost the extremely weak mental strength of our players.. changing coaches non stop wont help much either..allan harris was pretty good until they decided to kick him out for getting 3rd in the tiger cup..look where are we now.. |
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Jul 16 2007, 11:10 AM
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sack all the FAM, the coach, most of the players. Need to set up a whole new system to produce good players again. Malaysian football cant be rescued within one or two years time.
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Jul 16 2007, 11:10 AM
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how to improve if every 10 mins break to smoke for 15 mins...
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Jul 16 2007, 11:10 AM
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QUOTE(how to save a life @ Jul 16 2007, 11:06 AM) seems like u follow malaysian football....last night. Ibrahim Saad!!! this kind of action should be done years ago...not yesterday... his father should follow him to....and the secretary...wats his name and Datuk Raja Ahmad Zainuddin too... please resign!!! |
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Jul 16 2007, 11:59 AM
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QUOTE(fd_totti @ Jul 16 2007, 11:10 AM) Ibrahim Saad!!! they wont, if resign no place to suck money already and Datuk Raja Ahmad Zainuddin too... please resign!!!  Added on July 16, 2007, 11:59 am QUOTE(adrianocy @ Jul 16 2007, 11:10 AM) how to improve if every 10 mins break to smoke for 15 mins... ya, loitering in the mamak stall till midniteThis post has been edited by hk_loo: Jul 16 2007, 11:59 AM |
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Jul 16 2007, 12:19 PM
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maybe khairy jamaluddin can. at least.. arrange a world class friendly for malaysian team.. assign a world class coach.. but pls not local coach la.. pick young player for sure... dont used old n useless player likes hairuddin, shukor adan, n rosdi talib anymore.. malaysian still have very good player likes.. khalid jamlus.. azlan ismail.. n creativity that tengku hazman got.. we play FM also know how to choose player..
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Jul 16 2007, 12:25 PM
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Oh ya hor, Khalid is still scoring for Perak but how come he did not get the chance to play for the Yellow Tigers when Akmal is not 100% fit? Looks like the "Burnt" Norizan got his strategy and player selection completely wrong!
And for goodness sake, get rid of lamers like that Khaironisam fellow as well as the half-past-six goalkeeper and even Hairuddin... Sigh, how i wish there was a poacher in the Azman Adnan or Hashim Mustapha (ex-Kelantan striker) mould around... Those guys can really put the foreign strikers to shame! Anyway, here are some good Malaysian stars whom i hope the future breed of soccer players will be able to emulate: strikers like Azman Adnan (Selangor, he was at one time valued at RM1m!), Matlan Marjan (Sabah), Zainal Abidin Hassan (Pahang / Selangor), and Kelantan's Hashim Mustapha; the rock-solid defenders such as K. Gunalan, Ismail Ibrahim (both Selangor), Radhi Mat Din, and Manja Man (both Kedah); Kedah's Ahmad Sobri (goalie); as well as midfield enforcers like Farizuan Che Hamid (Kedah) and Dollah Salleh (Pahang / Selangor)... This post has been edited by THT United Gadgets: Jul 16 2007, 12:35 PM |
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Jul 16 2007, 12:28 PM
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in reply to the above
matlan marjan scott olleranshaw (olle olle olle! btw, isn't he a naturalized malaysian by now? maybe he can be part of the coaching team?) This post has been edited by madmoz: Jul 16 2007, 12:29 PM |
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Jul 16 2007, 12:35 PM
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QUOTE(PenangLaksa @ Jul 16 2007, 10:37 AM) Only cowards would resign, he has not got the gut to tell everybody that what he has been upto for the past 10 years? It will not change a thing, I have come to a conclusion that Malaysians can't play football. hello....MALAYSIAN CAN PLAY FOOTBALL!!! but not that malaysian national team!!  ..correct ur statement plz  |
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Jul 16 2007, 12:37 PM
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True true, Scott Ollerenshaw can make a good national coach, if he is willing to uproot himself from his Sabah home and step into the KL hotpot!
But still, don't forget our resident Astro pundit, Mr. Shebby Singh, who can be another candidate for national coach... I forgot to mention him as well, as this guy was a steady defender during days of playing for KL and their dominant Malaysia Cup team in the 90s... Oh ya, and i just remembered one thing... Wasn't there a major crackdown on football corruption sometime in the mid-90s? If i can recall, many talented and exceptionally skilled players like Malek Rahman, A. Jayakanthan, Farizuan Che Hamid, and Azizol Abu Hanifa who formed the core of the national team were banned? This really killed off the potential of our Malaysian team and i can only imagine what we would have gone on to achieve should these people not see their careers come to a premature end... This post has been edited by THT United Gadgets: Jul 16 2007, 12:42 PM |
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Jul 16 2007, 12:46 PM
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QUOTE(fd_totti @ Jul 16 2007, 11:10 AM) Ibrahim Saad!!! Please resign, seriously! Let others do a proper job.and Datuk Raja Ahmad Zainuddin too... please resign!!! Datuk Raja Ahmd, useless! |
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Jul 16 2007, 01:04 PM
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y wait til september? lol. i want now. all of them in the management shud resign. if only 1 person comes in, the corrupt aura's of the FAM wud still exists. they've disbanded the whole team, nothing happens. they've change new coach (couple of times) no change.. how bout disband the whole FAM lar. maybe keep a couple but let's c wut changes can a drastic major overhaul of FAM can do. can't really get anymore worse than it already is. i wud not want to settle just challenging at south east asia level. sick n tired of it.  QUOTE(THT United Gadgets @ Jul 16 2007, 12:25 PM) Oh ya hor, Khalid is still scoring for Perak but how come he did not get the chance to play for the Yellow Tigers when Akmal is not 100% fit? Looks like the "Burnt" Norizan got his strategy and player selection completely wrong! this is players of the early 90's era ya? y not players of the 70s/80s era? And for goodness sake, get rid of lamers like that Khaironisam fellow as well as the half-past-six goalkeeper and even Hairuddin... Sigh, how i wish there was a poacher in the Azman Adnan or Hashim Mustapha (ex-Kelantan striker) mould around... Those guys can really put the foreign strikers to shame! Anyway, here are some good Malaysian stars whom i hope the future breed of soccer players will be able to emulate: strikers like Azman Adnan (Selangor, he was at one time valued at RM1m!), Matlan Marjan (Sabah), Zainal Abidin Hassan (Pahang / Selangor), and Kelantan's Hashim Mustapha; the rock-solid defenders such as K. Gunalan, Ismail Ibrahim (both Selangor), Radhi Mat Din, and Manja Man (both Kedah); Kedah's Ahmad Sobri (goalie); as well as midfield enforcers like Farizuan Che Hamid (Kedah) and Dollah Salleh (Pahang / Selangor)...  nway, i'd want a much more steady n reliable keeper like khairul azman.. |
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Jul 16 2007, 01:05 PM
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its about time but i want all major revamp on fam or else stop competing in all footie tournament 4eva
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Jul 16 2007, 01:06 PM
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our national squad is such a sham i just dun care who quits..
no more talk. just get the team organized and start winning. peace out. |
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Jul 16 2007, 01:06 PM
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Can't the people comlplain to FIFA or something about FAM?
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Jul 16 2007, 01:08 PM
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we should merge this thread with the other 'bash-our-national-team' thread. mods?
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Jul 16 2007, 01:34 PM
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QUOTE(Ranny @ Jul 16 2007, 11:04 AM) how naive u guys are. That 1 person causes the whole team to perform that way.1 person resign, then suddenly the team can become world class players?? No real action from the FAM to increase the Malaysian Team's standard. So if someone really determined comes to fill in the position, there might be chances that Malaysia may shine once again. But as for now, the FAM is making Malaysia Football Team look bad, because of politics and such. |
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Jul 16 2007, 01:38 PM
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this tengku should go apply the position FA president of brazil ...
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Jul 16 2007, 02:45 PM
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i wish to fill in his post,
first i will make my self rich with this post, second i will buy new car, third i will buy bungalow, forth i will need to get a new wife... last but not least, try to stay in this post as long as i can... |
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Jul 16 2007, 02:49 PM
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yeah, FAM really needs a restructure.
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Jul 16 2007, 03:03 PM
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QUOTE(ryansxs @ Jul 16 2007, 12:46 PM) Please resign, seriously! Let others do a proper job. Source: Utusan OnlineDatuk Raja Ahmd, useless! QUOTE Surat tersebut diterima oleh Pegawai Khas kepada Setiausaha Agung FAM, Datuk Husin Mohamad Anwar kira-kira pukul 2.30 petang semalam. Datuk Raja Ahmad said what Tengku Abdullah did was not the way to solve the problem. Then what make ppl think Raja Ahmad will resign??? Or maybe he will, then elect himself as timbalan FAM Mengulas lanjut Raja Ahmad Zainuddin berkata, beliau benar-benar terkejut dengan pengumuman yang dibuat oleh Tengku Abdullah. ''Bagi saya keputusan yang diambil oleh beliau (Tengku Abdullah) bukanlah jalan penyelesaian untuk menamatkan kemelut yang melanda bola sepak negara,'' ujarnya lagi. This post has been edited by koben: Jul 16 2007, 03:04 PM |
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Jul 16 2007, 03:05 PM
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actually how much $$$ been given to FAM each year with tax payers' $$$. our hard earn $ wasted on those bustards....
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Jul 16 2007, 03:08 PM
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We need Luiz Felipe Scolari to coach our players....
As for the board, they know not what they are doing and i don't think football is their main interest. Mainly because of $ |
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Jul 16 2007, 03:15 PM
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QUOTE(tAmp0i @ Jul 16 2007, 03:08 PM) We need Luiz Felipe Scolari to coach our players.... scolari, guus hiddink, SAF, or even the special one "jose" can't save current malaysia national team now. they need to start from the root, train and guide the young one, current squad already useless. As for the board, they know not what they are doing and i don't think football is their main interest. Mainly because of $ |
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Jul 16 2007, 03:17 PM
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to be honest, i think there are at least 100 minor politicians and royals currently licking their lips at the chance to helm FAM... cash cow ler.
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Jul 16 2007, 03:19 PM
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QUOTE(madmoz @ Jul 16 2007, 03:17 PM) to be honest, i think there are at least 100 minor politicians and royals currently licking their lips at the chance to helm FAM... cash cow ler. then the future on malaysian football still no end of the dark tunnel. |
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Jul 16 2007, 03:22 PM
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It's about blardee time heads start to roll in FAM. The state of football in MY is a freaking joke even SG's national team is doing a heck lot better than us.
Damn malu man. |
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Jul 16 2007, 03:32 PM
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QUOTE(Cahill @ Jul 16 2007, 03:05 PM) actually how much $$$ been given to FAM each year with tax payers' $$$. our hard earn $ wasted on those bustards.... Then we must not give anymore! for starters we need to boycott the local league, nike, FAM sponsored tournament etc. Done give them a chance to take 1 sen of our pockets. |
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Jul 16 2007, 04:02 PM
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his resignation is overdue for way too long. With all due respect, he tried and failed too many time and yet he still hold on to office for such a long time.
I sincerely hope, for the sake of football in this country his resignation is not another sandiwara. you know... he resign and then all sort of YAB, Datuk, MP blah blah blah... come out to support him and back he is to where he was before. won't be easy regain our former strength again. The game have evolves into such a technical game that i think we are at a lost when the opponent refuse to pass and shot but play a strategy game. I figure we have to start all over again from school kids teaching them to walk into the field knowing the opponent weakness and how to play around them to score rather then get the ball pass to penalty box and shot. again... no sandiwara pls and also keep the politician out for goodness sake. This post has been edited by demio121: Jul 16 2007, 04:02 PM |
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Jul 16 2007, 04:15 PM
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Malaysian politician should follow Japanese attitude...
even salah cakap oso they will resign.... if lose badly like dis all of them will commit harakiri... org tue2 kutuk FAM tak tau malu... |
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Jul 16 2007, 04:52 PM
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no need import coach la... Where is the Malaysia Boleh Spirit??
Get the coach which is from Gombak.. |
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Jul 16 2007, 05:48 PM
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Its about time he resigned. Less corruption
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Jul 16 2007, 05:51 PM
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Pull out from football and join netball
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Jul 16 2007, 06:02 PM
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QUOTE(amz_dreamz @ Jul 16 2007, 04:15 PM) Malaysian politician should follow Japanese attitude... agree with u. they still don't want to resign eventhough ppl already complaining. even salah cakap oso they will resign.... if lose badly like dis all of them will commit harakiri... org tue2 kutuk FAM tak tau malu...  if change the whole team and new coach but top management still those politicians and ppl who know little about football, the results will be the same... |
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Jul 16 2007, 06:08 PM
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QUOTE(PenangLaksa @ Jul 16 2007, 10:37 AM) Only cowards would resign, he has not got the gut to tell everybody that what he has been upto for the past 10 years? It will not change a thing, I have come to a conclusion that Malaysians can't play football. who said that.... we have history in Asian football........ if we can't play.... we will not have our own history although its quite long ago in 60s 70s & 80s, we beat arsenal, we beat czech republic 3-1 or 3-0, keevin keegan play for malaysia in pestabola merdeka bcoz he impress with our football at that time... we draw with england .... mokhtar dahari recognized as best striker in asia when he just 23 yrs old.... we qualify for olympic for 2 times... who said we can't play football......... now, its all bcoz of money.... our football become worst becoz of money!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!>.........  |
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Jul 16 2007, 06:18 PM
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QUOTE(THT United Gadgets @ Jul 16 2007, 12:25 PM) Azman Adnan or Hashim Mustapha (ex-Kelantan striker) Yup, these 2 strikers during the 90s, scoring goals as easy as drink water. That's the last best strikers I ever seen in Malaysia football, after that no one really near the quality both of these players |
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Jul 16 2007, 06:46 PM
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QUOTE(killingspree @ Jul 16 2007, 06:08 PM) who said that.... we have history in Asian football........ if we can't play.... we will not have our own history although its quite long ago in 60s 70s & 80s, we beat arsenal, we beat czech republic 3-1 or 3-0, keevin keegan play for malaysia in pestabola merdeka bcoz he impress with our football at that time... we draw with england .... mokhtar dahari recognized as best striker in asia when he just 23 yrs old.... we qualify for olympic for 2 times... who said we can't play football......... now, its all bcoz of money.... our football become worst becoz of money!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!>......... Fully agree. We had a good footballing history. Then it all went sour and downhill. Hopefully, there would be some improvements... |
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Jul 16 2007, 07:31 PM
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If the Tengku really wanted to help Malaysian football he wouldn't leave the FAM in limbo but rather clean up all the corruption and mismanagement in it.
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Jul 16 2007, 08:32 PM
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QUOTE(amz_dreamz @ Jul 16 2007, 04:15 PM) Malaysian politician should follow Japanese attitude... LOL someone had been following the Japanese politic I see even salah cakap oso they will resign.... if lose badly like dis all of them will commit harakiri... org tue2 kutuk FAM tak tau malu... But yeah, the recent ex-Japanese Defense did step down because of his own fault. Harakiri in Malaysia for doing something wrong? Not in a million years |
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Jul 16 2007, 09:17 PM
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I think changes are inevitable ...
When the team plays the results shows , and when the results are total rubbish its time to move on with some new people . This doesn't apply to him only but the whole organization This post has been edited by Imdarren: Jul 16 2007, 09:18 PM |
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Jul 16 2007, 09:31 PM
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we need many years b4 our team can play some decent and competitive football. he should have resigned his job a very long time ago. we're now in a state of decline - we need much more time than previously to build back a decent team.
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Jul 16 2007, 10:03 PM
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you seriously think they will step down ?
those clowns in FAM have a face so thick that it will even put bush + blair + OBL + <insert name here> combined to shame... |
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Jul 16 2007, 10:21 PM
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I will be happy if Ibrahim Saad resign also. He the one who talk a lot, kerja kalut.
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Jul 16 2007, 10:23 PM
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He quits,but that wont do anything as long as the national team still consists of the same people..
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Jul 16 2007, 10:45 PM
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if only 'he' quits his position, then i doubt it will have any effect on the football industry. we need 'them' to stepped down as well. they already been up there for a very long time and the football team are getting worse each day. if they truly loves Malaysia football industry then maybe they should do as what the fans requested...
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Jul 16 2007, 10:58 PM
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QUOTE FAM: Sultan Pahang mahu kekal, Khairy berundur KUALA LUMPUR 16 Julai - Presiden Persatuan Bolasepak Malaysia (FAM), Sultan Ahmad Shah mahu terus menerajui badan induk bola sepak negara itu, walaupun orang ramai mahukan pimpinan tertinggi persatuan itu meletak jawatan berikutan prestasi buruk pasukan kebangsaan Malaysia pada Piala Asia yang sedang berlangsung. Malah, Sultan Pahang merancang untuk menjalankan apa yang baginda panggil "proses baik pulih" besar-besaran pada persatuan yang dikritik teruk itu. Baginda juga merancang menjalankan siasatan terhadap prestasi pasukan kebangsaan, yang disifatkan ramai peminat bola sepak sebagai memalukan negara. "Selepas berakhirnya perlawanan terakhir pasukan kebangsaan pada pertandingan itu, kita akan adakan siasatan," kata baginda kepada pemberita, yang menjangkakan baginda akan mengumumkan peletakkan jawatan selepas 23 tahun menerajui FAM, sebaik tiba di Pangkalan Udara Subang di sini hari ini. Desakan untuk perubahan pimpinan dalam FAM semakin meningkat berikutan pengumuman mengejut semalam oleh anakanda baginda, Tengku Abdullah Sultan Ahmad Shah untuk meletakkan jawatan dengan serta-merta sebagai timbalan presiden dan jawatan-jawatan lain dalam FAM. Ditanya wartawan kenapa baginda memutuskan untuk terus menerajui FAM, baginda menjawab: " Saya bukan pengecut. Saya tidak akan tunduk kepada desakan ramai." Sultan Ahmad Shah berkata, baginda juga akan mempengerusikan mesyuarat pada minggu depan bagi mencari "penyelesaian terbaik" bagi keadaan terkini persatuan itu. Malaysia, yang menjadi tuan rumah perlawanan kumpulan C Piala Asia, tewas 1-5 kepada China pada perlawanan pembukaan 10 Julai lepas dan mengalami kekalahan 0-5 kepada Uzbekistan Sabtu lalu. Ranking pasukan kebangsaan juga jatuh ke tangga 149 dalam ranking dunia Persekutuan Bolasepak Antarabangsa (FIFA) selepas berada pada kedudukan ke-118 beberapa tahun lepas. Sultan Ahmad Shah berkata, baginda juga menerima surat daripada Setiausaha Agung FAM, Datuk Seri Dr. Ibrahim Saad yang menyatakan hasrat untuk meletak jawatan bulan depan apabila tempoh perkhidmatannya selama dua tahun tamat. Tahun lepas, Ibrahim telah menyatakan bahawa beliau mahu meletak jawatan, bagaimanapun, beliau kemudiannya tidak berbuat demikian. Akhbar-akhbar hari ini banyak mengeluarkan kritikan-kritikan pedas terhadap keseluruhan pimpinan FAM kerana memegang jawatan terlalu lama dan gagal menguruskan pembangunan bola sepak walaupun Malaysia pernah menjadi kuasa bola sepak Asia, malah berada pada ranking yang lebih tinggi daripada Korea Selatan, yang layak ke separuh akhir Piala Dunia 2002. Kecaman terhadap pimpinan FAM kali ini begitu teruk dan tidak pernah berlaku sebelum ini. Mengulas mengenai keputusan Tengku Abdullah meletakkan jawatannya, baginda berkata: "Walaupun beliau anakanda saya, saya kena hormat keputusan beliau." Menjawab soalan berikutnya, Sultan Ahmad Shah, bagaimanapun, berkata, baginda bersedia untuk menyerahkan jawatan presiden jika ada calon yang sanggup. "Saya akan terus berkhidmat, tetapi jika ada yang sanggup ambil alih, mereka dialu-alukan," kata baginda. Sementara itu, anggota bebas majlis FAM, Khairy Jamaluddin hari ini meletakkan jawatannya dengan serta-merta. Dalam surat kepada Setiausaha Agung FAM, Khairy, yang menjadi anggota bebas FAM pada 2005, berkata, beliau membuat tindakan itu sebagai tanda hormat kepada keputusan Tengku Abdullah meletakkan jawatan daripada persatuan itu. "Ini kerana Tengku Abdullah adalah individu yang membawa saya masuk ke dalam Majlis FAM. "Saya membuat tindakan ini atas dasar bersama dan berkongsi tanggungjawab berikutan prestasi yang semakin merosot skuad bola sepak kebangsaan," katanya. Sumber-sumber menyatakan bahawa peletakan jawatan Tengku Abdullah dijangka membawa kepada peletakan jawatan lain di kalangan anggota Majlis FAM dalam beberapa hari ini. - Bernama http://www.utusan.com.my/utusan/content.as...ni&pg=bt_04.htm Pak Berahim akan letak jawatan tak lama lagi dan khairy menantu paklah pun dah letak jawatan Cheesy akhirnya desakan rakyat malaysia akan melihat pentadbiran baru FAM |
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Jul 16 2007, 11:25 PM
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QUOTE(Cahill @ Jul 16 2007, 03:15 PM) scolari, guus hiddink, SAF, or even the special one "jose" can't save current malaysia national team now. they need to start from the root, train and guide the young one, current squad already useless. for your information..the last time a foreigner coach our malaysian team(mr bertalan)..the players said to FAM that they cannot TAHAN the training...ala ala ketenteraan...damn stupid..manja...kalau tak tahan jangan jadi pemain bola malaysia....bangang...bertalan tu dah OK dah..masuk semi...the only problem is from our malaysian team themselves...manja!!!! |
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Jul 16 2007, 11:32 PM
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QUOTE Malah, Sultan Pahang merancang untuk menjalankan apa yang baginda panggil "proses baik pulih" besar-besaran pada persatuan yang dikritik teruk itu. so this retard will request RM10m from government, say to rebuild the football... then part of the 10m will go to his pocket as usual ... by that time, people already forgot this tournament, so every thing back to normal, sochai m league continue...then until next sea game, we booted out early, then some idiot top officer of FAM resign, and this president say will stay to rebuild the team, and the cycle continue .... |
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Jul 16 2007, 11:34 PM
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Sultan Pahang wants to stay???
Wht the heck, eventhough he is the sultan that doesn't make him the best in everythng. Siasatan terperinci and proses baik puloh...yeah right!!! same script for the last 10 years....siasatan terperinci. |
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Jul 16 2007, 11:45 PM
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QUOTE(exkay @ Jul 16 2007, 10:34 AM) Kudos to him for resigning.. I think it's time those sitting on top felt responsible for what they did. hahah exkay didn't know you would post here =PIf only Rafidah and our Semi Value would do the same too. ( not to forget that bocor f**ker ) i think the damage is still very severe.. corruption on all levels .. and not just in terms of money but things like favoritism from the grass roots level (school level wakil sekolah already got the problem) all the way up. I sincerely believe there are people who have what it takes (players) that got the physique perhaps technique can be learnt, and more importantly the right attitude to take the team forward but hasn't been given the chance. anyway, lets hope of a better things to come from this.. really can't bear to see it get anymore worse than this.. |
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Jul 16 2007, 11:49 PM
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Sultan Pahang can stay if he wants. But make sure, he done his job well after he plans to stay. Hope his "proses baik pulih" will end up with a good result. Not talk only.
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Jul 16 2007, 11:49 PM
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That is biggest good news upon the arrival of Hari Merdeka. I am happier than any one of this. 10 years. We need 10 years more to qualify for WC.
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Jul 16 2007, 11:54 PM
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hmmm... kind of good to me... good coz after many years finally we can see new face to lead FAM... we need it.... we failed to impress to many years under current lead and the most important things is that whoever going to lead the FAM must "politically free"....
hopefully no more politic in the FAM and no more same reason every time we lost ( lack of physical challenge.. (jus wonder how can vietnam can win the match when they r smaller than us.... )) for sure something wrong somewhere!!!!new era of football.....  This post has been edited by nizamhameed: Jul 16 2007, 11:55 PM |
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Jul 16 2007, 11:56 PM
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QUOTE(popsoul @ Jul 16 2007, 11:49 PM) That is biggest good news upon the arrival of Hari Merdeka. I am happier than any one of this. 10 years. We need 10 years more to qualify for WC. 10 years?i think in 10 years time we also can't even be the number 1 in SEA |
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Jul 16 2007, 11:59 PM
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i heard the general secetary saad fella also gonna resign..shebby for president!!
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Jul 17 2007, 12:01 AM
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hope for the best for the new FAM, bring us back to the glory days...
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Jul 17 2007, 12:08 AM
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i vote for shebby....not for FAM post.....national coach hehehe
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Jul 17 2007, 12:13 AM
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Dali Omar(Ex-Director and Ex-Coach Olimpic Sydney FC) and Lim Teong Kim(Bayern Muchen Youth Team Coach) should overtake FAM management
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Jul 17 2007, 12:20 AM
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Ditanya wartawan kenapa baginda memutuskan untuk terus menerajui FAM, baginda menjawab: “ Saya bukan pengecut. Saya tidak akan tunduk kepada desakan ramai.”
Ayoyo... the sultan had the wrong mentality. It's ur own people not the enemy!!! Pengecut IS to stay. A man with balls would accept responsibilities and accept the fact of his weaknesses. Maybe another royalties could coax him? |
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Jul 17 2007, 12:29 AM
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sori to say to any Pahang people...
ur Sultan n kerabat only good in managing tournament with artist not football association la... main bola bersama Mawi can la... better step down like ur son |
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Jul 17 2007, 12:38 AM
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Will Shahidan Be The Next FAM Deputy President?
KANGAR, July 16 (Bernama) -- As the guessing game begins on who will fill the deputy president's post in the Football Association of Malaysia (FAM) vacated by Tengku Abdullah Sultan Ahmad Shah, Perlis Menteri Besar Datuk Seri Shahidan Kassim was suddenly mentioned as a probable candidate. The man himself, however, declined to comment when asked whether he was interested to take over. "I am afraid to give comments or the FAM may penalise me," said Shahidan, who is also Perlis Football Association president, when met at the Utama Stadium here today. His name was mentioned as among the "probable" qualified candidates for the post by Youth and Sports Minister Datuk Seri Azalina Othman Said when launching the national-level Rakan Cinta Alam in Gua Kelam here today. Shahidan is also the president of the Malaysian Amateur Athletics Union, Amateur Swimming Union of Malaysia and Kabbadi Association of Malaysia and said he that he was presently focusing on these sports. However, he nodded repeatedly when pressed further whether he agreed to offer himself for the second most important post in the country's football governing body. -- BERNAMA |
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Jul 17 2007, 12:46 AM
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another politician? why not give it to opposition, if m'sia lost, then govt can pawn them kaw2
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Jul 17 2007, 12:48 AM
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the stupid FAM people still dont get it do they..the rakyat wants someone professional runing the association not some DAMN politicians..tak boleh masuk kepala keras kamu semua ke..bodoh..
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Jul 17 2007, 12:52 AM
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he should have quited long time ago...Kick politics out of football...jus like kicking racism out of football.
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Jul 17 2007, 12:55 AM
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i agree to all except for raja ahmad zainuddin, i know him since he was the perak's coach, i believe that he's still usefull in FAM.
on other note, i wud like to see ronald (arthur) smith heading the coaching team. i hope sooner or later our older footballers (70's to 90's) will come up with their idea on how to improve the malaysian soccer. nice to see some of the 90's footballers name being mentioned here, brings back a lot of memories..  |
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Jul 17 2007, 12:59 AM
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If Shahizan got the post, bye bye football.
If anybody still loves football in Malaysia, please migrate. You'd will be great help of protecting your children from this torment. Sometime in the future, Timor Leste Son : Daddy, daddy why do you left Malaysia? Father: Cause FAM sucks!!! You don't know how lucky you are for having a great national team like Timor Leste. This post has been edited by NasiLemakMan: Jul 17 2007, 01:06 AM |
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Jul 17 2007, 01:05 AM
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Hmm, thinking bout it, the players and the management play the roles for the ..'not-so-good' result from our football team. And, I personally think that...is kind of hard for our beloved country team to be...'revamp'. Maybe cause, hard to convince the management...that is important to change current player training/selection maybe to higher standard...and maybe cause, the players think that...either way, they still can play out for their country, for the game...as long they still can perform at local league.
And I think because of that (partially), that's why someone* created the MY Team. I dont have much info on how it works, but as far as I understand, those players in MY Team is been selected through...some event across Malaysia(Just like Malaysian Idol where everyone got the chance to show their skills and if they pass, they will move to the next round). I think is good ler...To me, if this MY Team can perform better than current country team, it should give some impact on the local standard of football. Good 1, I mean. Just my 2 cents. |
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Jul 17 2007, 02:53 AM
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i do think that we really need a total revamp of FAM. we need new management who really knows what they're doing and not just listening to their 'kaki bodek'. those top management then sign a new coach and discuss on the players selection. the starting point for all this is to change the top management...
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Jul 17 2007, 03:26 AM
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If this is the case, then Thaksin Shinawatra should quit as Man City owner. Man City will qualify for Champions League in 2008/09 a year later. If a team can improve drastically just bcoz of someone powerful quitting, then it wont call football liao.
Added on July 17, 2007, 3:29 am QUOTE(how to save a life @ Jul 17 2007, 12:08 AM) i vote for shebby....not for FAM post.....national coach hehehe No need shebby. I will give you Jose Mourinho. I think Jose will quit too if he sees these kind of monkeys playing football.This post has been edited by Ranny: Jul 17 2007, 03:29 AM |
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Jul 17 2007, 04:31 AM
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hmm i think astro should come with MY COACH reality TV.. guess someone out there talented to be a coach maybe ;p the winner will coach our national team..
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Jul 17 2007, 05:08 AM
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Ibrahim pula letak jawatan
http://utusan.com.my/utusan/content.asp?y=...an&pg=su_06.htm » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « Added on July 17, 2007, 5:13 amShahidan minat jawatan no. 2 FAM http://utusan.com.my/utusan/content.asp?y=...an&pg=su_09.htm » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « Still politician. No no no This post has been edited by Azuma-kun: Jul 17 2007, 05:13 AM |
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Jul 17 2007, 07:37 AM
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Weird.
The poll result not much differ. What do you guys want actually This post has been edited by Raikkonen: Jul 17 2007, 07:37 AM |
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Jul 17 2007, 07:45 AM
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OMG Datuk Seri Shahidan Kassim!!!
Please no!!!! Why don't people who really know how to kick the ball step up to take the position? |
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Jul 17 2007, 08:07 AM
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QUOTE(PIRATES! @ Jul 16 2007, 10:57 AM) Please Malaysia wake-up! |
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Jul 17 2007, 08:18 AM
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QUOTE(WPInman @ Jul 17 2007, 07:45 AM) OMG Datuk Seri Shahidan Kassim!!! aiyour, like this u also dunno???Please no!!!! Why don't people who really know how to kick the ball step up to take the position? if u are vice president, u request some money from government say to develop football, then part of the money can go into own pocket, then remaining only go develop football, like send 1 or 2 sochai go europe training for 1 week, then come back expect them to be beckham of malaysia... |
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Jul 17 2007, 08:44 AM
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Shahidan is politician...i'm totally confident that bola sepak Malaysia will jatuh even greater if he is selected. Azalina said that isu bola sepak is big national issue right now. So politician please go away from our beloved sport.
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Jul 17 2007, 09:20 AM
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Politicians and sport should not mix..If u guys think Ibrahim Saad is bad, Shahidan is even worse..
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Jul 17 2007, 09:30 AM
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QUOTE(zimhibikie @ Jul 17 2007, 09:20 AM) Politicians and sport should not mix..If u guys think Ibrahim Saad is bad, Shahidan is even worse.. AGREEDremember Norita Sahmsuddin? He's one of her regular customer maaa If he the no 2 FAM, guess how many chicks he can keep right now also cannot count how many...  his interest ONLY into boobs not football |
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Jul 17 2007, 09:36 AM
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makan duit kao kao then blah...
wise choice , man! |
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Jul 17 2007, 11:14 AM
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QUOTE(kurtkantoi @ Jul 17 2007, 08:44 AM) Shahidan is politician...i'm totally confident that bola sepak Malaysia will jatuh even greater if he is selected. Azalina said that isu bola sepak is big national issue right now. So politician please go away from our beloved sport. Of cuz Azalina will say issue bola sepak is big national issue.. she is the sport minister. If she dun hoohaa this issue, there is nothing for her ministry to do. Well, actually there is nothing her ministry can do.president of FAM say he is not stepping down and will get to the bottom of this (this time.... hmmm.... what happen the rest of the time when we got humiliated...???). Sport minister say its now a big national issue. ello... its been an issue for more than a decade. see the trend... that's why things never improve. Football have suffer so so many many year and now they wanna get to bottom of things lar... national issue lar... This post has been edited by demio121: Jul 17 2007, 11:16 AM |
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Jul 17 2007, 12:52 PM
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Comment from Datuk Seri Khir Toyo (Selangor MB, FAS president)
QUOTE Menurut Menteri Besar Selangor itu, apa yang penting sekarang ialah untuk meningkatkan kualiti bola sepak kerana prestasi pasukan Malaysia memang amat memalukan. If his suggestion in the bold part is taken, I believe we'll be the first in the world to do it to the senior squad (I think).Selain itu kata Mohamad Khir, sistem yang dijalankan oleh FAM sekarang perlu diubah kerana dia melihat sistem yang dianjurkan tidak memberi kesan. Sebagai contoh, katanya, cara FAM mengambil pemain-pemain negeri untuk mewakili negara adalah tidak betul. Mohamad Khir berpendapat, FAM sepatutnya perlu ada kumpulan pemain khas dan ia boleh disewakan atau pun dipinjamkan ke negeri-negeri. ''Katalah FAM ada 30 hingga 40 pemain yang dilatih dan bila negeri-negeri contohnya Selangor nak ambil, kita kena bincang antaranya berapa kos untuk mengambil pemain itu. ''Tetapi apa yang berlaku sekarang adalah sebaliknya. Pemain yang dilatih oleh negeri diambil oleh skuad kebangsaan. ''Jadi ini yang menyebabkan kualiti bola sepak kita semakin menurun dan pada pendapat saya cara ini tak boleh diteruskan," katanya kepada pemberita selepas menghadiri Mesyuarat Dewan Undangan Negeri Selangor di sini, semalam. Tambahnya lagi, skuad negara yang terlalu bergantung kepada pemain import juga menjadi antara sebab kemerosotan bola sepak negara. Katanya, faktor itu boleh menyebabkan pemain-pemain tempatan kurang keyakinan diri. ''Kalau main di padang dia nak tengok orang luar, yang jaringkan gol pun kebanyakannya pemain luar, lepas itu yang jadi pertahanan pun orang luar. ''Ini menyebabkan pemain kita hilang kepercayaan diri," tegasnya. |
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Jul 17 2007, 01:00 PM
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Stupid idea. If we did that we are the only one int the world to do that sort of thing.
If we want to improve we gotta ban state teams. Its becoz of the loyalty to state teams that football disintegrate. Every politician/player said that I'm selangorian, pahangian, perakian not malaysian...politics. |
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Jul 17 2007, 01:02 PM
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...see told you there were 1000 minor politicians and royals eyeing that post.
On another note, enough with the senseless bashing and mindless taunts already! Someone actually said 40-0 to Iran... The current squad sucks - Yes, no denying it FAM suck - Yes, even more so. but the boys are still representing M'sia and will be facing a technically superior, fitter and more experienced team... they'll need what little confidence they have left, so lets keep the dissent until after the game, ok? This post has been edited by madmoz: Jul 17 2007, 01:24 PM |
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Jul 17 2007, 01:30 PM
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QUOTE Menurut Menteri Besar Selangor itu, apa yang penting sekarang ialah untuk meningkatkan kualiti bola sepak kerana prestasi pasukan Malaysia memang amat memalukan. Selain itu kata Mohamad Khir, sistem yang dijalankan oleh FAM sekarang perlu diubah kerana dia melihat sistem yang dianjurkan tidak memberi kesan. Sebagai contoh, katanya, cara FAM mengambil pemain-pemain negeri untuk mewakili negara adalah tidak betul. ]Mohamad Khir berpendapat, FAM sepatutnya perlu ada kumpulan pemain khas dan ia boleh disewakan atau pun dipinjamkan ke negeri-negeri. ''Katalah FAM ada 30 hingga 40 pemain yang dilatih dan bila negeri-negeri contohnya Selangor nak ambil, kita kena bincang antaranya berapa kos untuk mengambil pemain itu. ''Tetapi apa yang berlaku sekarang adalah sebaliknya. Pemain yang dilatih oleh negeri diambil oleh skuad kebangsaan. ''Jadi ini yang menyebabkan kualiti bola sepak kita semakin menurun dan pada pendapat saya cara ini tak boleh diteruskan," katanya kepada pemberita selepas menghadiri Mesyuarat Dewan Undangan Negeri Selangor di sini, semalam. Tambahnya lagi, skuad negara yang terlalu bergantung kepada pemain import juga menjadi antara sebab kemerosotan bola sepak negara. Katanya, faktor itu boleh menyebabkan pemain-pemain tempatan kurang keyakinan diri. ''Kalau main di padang dia nak tengok orang luar, yang jaringkan gol pun kebanyakannya pemain luar, lepas itu yang jadi pertahanan pun orang luar. ''Ini menyebabkan pemain kita hilang kepercayaan diri," tegasnya. muahahahahahahahahaaa...... this Toyo really retard ... whole world also form the national team from the clubs ... he must be doesn't watch football 1... QUOTE Sebagai contoh, katanya, cara FAM mengambil pemain-pemain negeri untuk mewakili negara adalah tidak betul. i curious what type of training this 40 players going to undergo ...]Mohamad Khir berpendapat, FAM sepatutnya perlu ada kumpulan pemain khas dan ia boleh disewakan atau pun dipinjamkan ke negeri-negeri. ''Katalah FAM ada 30 hingga 40 pemain yang dilatih dan bila negeri-negeri contohnya Selangor nak ambil, kita kena bincang antaranya berapa kos untuk mengambil pemain itu. berlatih in morning, then evening go mamak stall? then once a month go europe friendly match with the clubs there? all players and staffs treat it as a trip ... stupid !!!! the theory of malaysian stay on the trees are true !!! |
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Jul 17 2007, 01:30 PM
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My opinion is...no more royalties or politicians for any of the top post..Just imagine u n ur friends form a club and ur dad as the president..sure x jalan..u'll surely think 3-4 times before voicing anything without offending your president a.k.a dad. Do we have some sort of national player rating?..rating system that monitor every single player that is in our league?..
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Jul 17 2007, 01:46 PM
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Great this guy finally show his coward attitude...
Good for him to blah...jauh jauh... Restrict the visit of Chelsea and Man U just to make us support and watch Malaysian Team... Want us to watch what? See how Malaysia concede 5 goal in every match? Funny... |
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Jul 17 2007, 02:12 PM
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Sultan Of Pahang stay as FAM head.
and internal politics will going on and on..... should let those ex-footballers guys in charge instead. they at least know what to do! |
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Jul 17 2007, 02:17 PM
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So now he's suggesting that FAM become sports agents and lease their players out to clubs?
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Jul 17 2007, 02:21 PM
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QUOTE(Duke Red @ Jul 17 2007, 02:17 PM) So now he's suggesting that FAM become sports agents and lease their players out to clubs? The finger pointing begins....QUOTE Tambahnya lagi, skuad negara yang terlalu bergantung kepada pemain import juga menjadi antara sebab kemerosotan bola sepak negara. When did our squad negara bergantung kepada pemain import? i wonder if he is misquoted or this Toyo fler is really a BAHALUL... |
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Jul 17 2007, 02:26 PM
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QUOTE(Grengo01 @ Jul 17 2007, 02:21 PM) The finger pointing begins.... Maybe he was referring to the league. Funnily enough, we were doing much better when we were semi-professional and had 3 foreigners in each team. Then we decided to ban foreigners completely but look where we are now. The standard of football has declined so badly, it's impossible that names like Tony Cottee, Chris Kiwomya and David Roecastle will ever be linked with a move to a Malaysian club. It's simple really. Bring in good foreign players and the quality of the league increases. When that happens, the local players learn more and have to improve as well.When did our squad negara bergantung kepada pemain import? i wonder if he is misquoted or this Toyo fler is really a BAHALUL... |
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Jul 17 2007, 02:26 PM
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our national squad I'll not bash until after wednesday, this toyo bugger is however fair game...
Today's comments rivals the one he made (if memory fails me not) about Selangor being the ONLY FULLY DEVELOPED state in Malaysia! Oh, was he responsible for the we wre better than Singapore gem too? This post has been edited by madmoz: Jul 17 2007, 02:35 PM |
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Jul 17 2007, 02:26 PM
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QUOTE(hk_loo @ Jul 16 2007, 11:56 PM) 10 years? aiyor, the national team is not even first on the country, there are many more talented people out there, who can easily defeat them, but these people are smart enough not to be involved in national football - because there is no hope and no futurei think in 10 years time we also can't even be the number 1 in SEA |
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Jul 17 2007, 02:32 PM
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After all these hoohahss died down, it's all going back to square one.
Mark my word. |
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Jul 17 2007, 02:40 PM
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QUOTE(Duke Red @ Jul 17 2007, 02:17 PM) So now he's suggesting that FAM become sports agents and lease their players out to clubs? oh no not leasing player... as long as there is $$$ changing hand in these business, there will be chances of corruption.now... sorry but the MB of Selangor is the chairman of FAS juz because he is the MB of d state. sorry to say this but i think he should stick to running the state government (which is not exactly in pristine state either....). Leave the running of sport to those who know the sport. Making comment like this is a favourite pass time of Malaysian. When something goes wrong, everyone will have a say how thing should have been done. Even Tengku was saying the coach was wrong with player selection against China. for the next few days, we'll most likely be reading funny comment about why out football is in dire state now and what would have been done from all kind of YAB lar, datuk lar etc. |
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Jul 17 2007, 02:43 PM
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QUOTE(vreis @ Jul 17 2007, 02:32 PM) After all these hoohahss died down, it's all going back to square one. Yup i agreed with u...i also hav the same tot... absolutely correct!!! all tidak apa attitude... no passion no fighting spirit... i think school players have better passion and fighting spirit than the national squad!!! all the players dun wun to put 100% and scared injured that will affect their league games... too much power in the clubs as well Mark my word.Like England n others western countries, they fight to get a place to play for national team... our country? terbalik wun... play 100% for clubs, 10% for country... somemore homeground kena wallop 5-0... if ppl attack our country, and our defence like them...then we in deep sh*t lor.... |
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Jul 17 2007, 05:20 PM
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Dear Malaysians, with the poor results recently, do you agree with my stand that our coach should be sacked immediately? I'm sorry to say that we never had any good results since he has taken in charge, so do the head of FAM who I consider has thousand of better candidates ahead of him who have more knowledge on football management to take the hot seat. Hot seats like this seems to be fitted in the favor of one's descent than caliber. There has been a lot of anger around but no one seems to call for the resignation of Norizan Bakar. He's the one who picks the players and arranges the tactics. But pathetically, they failed hence we need new blood. A new coach with higher expertise is needed, be it a local coach or a foreign one. Malaysia team has plunged 70+ places in the ranking in 10 yrs.
FAM, please wake up This post has been edited by K-I-R-A: Jul 17 2007, 05:22 PM |
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Jul 17 2007, 05:26 PM
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Come on, give Toyo a chance. He turned Selangor into a developed state, remember?
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Jul 17 2007, 05:28 PM
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Im pretty damn sure Norizan will resign himself after the game against Iran.
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Jul 17 2007, 05:31 PM
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All I want to say is that Norizan introduced a different style of football - attacking football. I rather watch Malaysia lost 5-1 attacking than Malaysia losing 1-0 defending for 90 mins.
Having said that, Norizan should know the players' capabilities... not every team can attack AND defend at the same time. Apparently we can't. This post has been edited by mrkenjiro: Jul 17 2007, 05:38 PM |
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Jul 17 2007, 05:36 PM
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too many new thread this week,this "Norizan Bakar should step down" should discuss in Malaysia National Team Thread or AFC Asian Cup thread |
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Jul 17 2007, 05:36 PM
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How many threads do we actually need? Can't we have everything in the same thread? Geez.
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Jul 17 2007, 05:46 PM
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For me, I think not juz Norizan Bakar should step down, but the player n the coach oso nid 2 step downlah...
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Jul 17 2007, 06:04 PM
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QUOTE(Duke Red @ Jul 17 2007, 02:26 PM) Maybe he was referring to the league. Funnily enough, we were doing much better when we were semi-professional and had 3 foreigners in each team. Then we decided to ban foreigners completely but look where we are now. The standard of football has declined so badly, it's impossible that names like Tony Cottee, Chris Kiwomya and David Roecastle will ever be linked with a move to a Malaysian club. It's simple really. Bring in good foreign players and the quality of the league increases. When that happens, the local players learn more and have to improve as well. I think we were doing much better that time when it was just Malaysia Cup! With Brunei and Singapore for company. Imagine the state teams like Selangor and Pahang can actually dent a Singapore side back then powered by Suriamurthi, Fandi Ahmad, Quah Kim Song!Today... nuff said... This is my most blunt analysis: Back in those days, we have footballers who are not full timers. They are employees of Penang Port, TNB, Maybank etc... they got a job and they started playing football. Means? They are literate and have some brains. Today, just because he was plucked from a kampung and can kick a ball, we elevate him to the status of a genius/ prodigy and companies offer him a job so that he can play football for them. I guess genius and prodigy is too big a word to describe these sub standard footballers. Means? They may not have brains for the game. The key words here are: You can take them out of the kampung but you cant expect them to take the kampung out of themselves. |
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Jul 17 2007, 06:15 PM
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it is good to see such an incompetent a.s.s.h.o.l.e resigned. Ibrahim Saad is due to resign too when his contract coming to the end 2 months from now. Hopefully with their resignations the management would get better. But the fundamental problem with malaysian football is, there is just no talent to work on. You can bring in world class coaches but they will still not produce becoz there just isn't any players to carry out the instructions on field. Well, give another 20 years to the country. Start everything from scratch. From grassroots level to the professional league. Maybe then we can start beating Spore consistently.
Added on July 17, 2007, 6:26 pm QUOTE(Gr3yL3gion81 @ Jul 17 2007, 05:26 PM) Come on, give Toyo a chance. He turned Selangor into a developed state, remember? Dude, i believe it doesn't apply to sports. Ask Einstein to manage a football association i'm pretty sure he also kelam kabut. Btw, i don't think Sgor is developed at all. Not any part of Msia can be considered as "developed".This post has been edited by zc_squash: Jul 17 2007, 06:26 PM |
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Jul 17 2007, 07:03 PM
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QUOTE(zc_squash @ Jul 17 2007, 06:15 PM) Dude, i believe it doesn't apply to sports. Ask Einstein to manage a football association i'm pretty sure he also kelam kabut. Btw, i don't think Sgor is developed at all. Not any part of Msia can be considered as "developed". Lol, don't take it literally dude, I was being sarcastic.Yeah, we need more sportsmen in the management side instead of some f***tard politician. |
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Jul 17 2007, 07:05 PM
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Step down? He should be lynched by a mob.
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Jul 17 2007, 07:14 PM
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QUOTE(Grengo01 @ Jul 17 2007, 06:04 PM) This is my most blunt analysis: Some very good points mate. Many a time our footballers have no idea what to do with the ball and just boot it upfield. Players that think faster may have instead elected to make a more intelligent pass. Back in those days, we have footballers who are not full timers. They are employees of Penang Port, TNB, Maybank etc... they got a job and they started playing football. Means? They are literate and have some brains. Today, just because he was plucked from a kampung and can kick a ball, we elevate him to the status of a genius/ prodigy and companies offer him a job so that he can play football for them. I guess genius and prodigy is too big a word to describe these sub standard footballers. Means? They may not have brains for the game. The key words here are: You can take them out of the kampung but you cant expect them to take the kampung out of themselves. QUOTE(Gr3yL3gion81 @ Jul 17 2007, 07:03 PM) Lol, don't take it literally dude, I was being sarcastic. Sarcasm is lost on many mate, even when you include the rolleyes emoticon |
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Jul 17 2007, 07:14 PM
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i'm not sure about this....just wait and see
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Jul 17 2007, 07:22 PM
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to me it doesnt matter whether he step down or not.... even if wenger, alex ferguson or JM themselves come and coach malaysian team we will fail.. coz we lack the basic football skill.... if we manage to improve it... we can win the match under any coach... its not abt the coach but we lack of basic skills.... so no issue at all abt the coach to me, personally...
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Jul 17 2007, 07:24 PM
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I think if the sultan of pahang really dun want to step down from FAM, the new FAM will assign him as the chairman of the FAM but without the excutive powers. That's the only way for him to stay in FAM without corrupting it. my 60 cents only..
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Jul 17 2007, 07:27 PM
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yes is my vote
no idea, his face just doesn't look like a good coach for me |
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Jul 17 2007, 08:03 PM
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Guys after this cup we must boycott local competition. Let there be no more $$$.
FA cup final alone at least could get rm 1 million per match in tickets. Syok woo. If there is no more money hopefully the vampires would go away. |
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Jul 17 2007, 08:08 PM
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i was browsing the group and standing.
the only other team in AFC cup to score only once is Oman but they let in 3 goals. we score one but we also had the most kena. SEPULUH biji. unless some kinda "miracle" happen to the other team, we will most likely end the competition as the only team that concede double digit goals. |
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Jul 17 2007, 08:23 PM
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'I just told the players to face it and maybe it will make us stronger. We have to be realistic against Iran and hope we don't concede too many goals.'
This comment makes me hate the coach even more. Where is the winning mentality?! An inspiring coach will say something like "this is our 50 years of independence, we will go about to show that malaysian football has what it takes, blah blah, we will bring Iran down and bring merdeka cheer to all the broken malaysian hearts out there." |
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Jul 17 2007, 08:26 PM
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The coach will be made the scape goat by that top nyanuk guy of FAM
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Jul 17 2007, 08:32 PM
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all the top management of FAM should resign...The team is getting worst year by year.
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Jul 17 2007, 08:34 PM
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Sooner or later he will step down.
even if he quit now, still no difference. it'll take time. |
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Jul 17 2007, 08:48 PM
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I hope Iran bash Malaysian pondan team more than 10 goals
unless FAM bribe Iran not to score more than 2 so, i predict Iran win 2-0 because of the bribe |
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Jul 17 2007, 09:11 PM
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why Sultan tak tau malu ke?
anak sudah resign, bapak still there for what? |
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Jul 17 2007, 09:27 PM
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guys stop attacking the royal family... and the management ... its not their fault... no matter how skillful a player is but they restricted and limited by their pysical..
the problem is pyshical ,small and short the way to fix it is to change the eating of malaysian population the health ministry have to parcipate and encourge whole malaysian to feed thier young with more milk ... perhaps distribute TIGER extra calcium biscuiut throughout whole malaysia .. in 15-30 years this problem will be solved... Added on July 17, 2007, 9:31 pmremember quote from another lyn member badan tinggi tak tau main boleh ajar pendek tau main tak boleh sambung kaki This post has been edited by Flizzardo: Jul 17 2007, 09:31 PM |
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Jul 17 2007, 09:32 PM
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Well, its good to see that f@ggot-face IBrahim SAD stepping down at last... What has that f**ktard done to football in this country other than showing his stupid yong-sui in the newspapers? Good riddance!
In the end, after all his cronies have stepped down, only the nyanyuk king remains... But nvm, the new FAM Board should just vote him off his post during the coming Congress in September... Or as a sympathy, keep him as Chairman but without any decision-making powers, like what aiyish said... |
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Jul 17 2007, 09:35 PM
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QUOTE(Flizzardo @ Jul 17 2007, 09:27 PM) guys stop attacking the royal family... and the management ... its not their fault... no matter how skillful a player is but they restricted and limited by their pysical.. tapi maradona pendek dan mengancam...the problem is pyshical ,small and short the way to fix it is to change the eating of malaysian population the health ministry have to parcipate and encourge whole malaysian to feed thier young with more milk ... perhaps distribute TIGER extra calcium biscuiut throughout whole malaysia .. in 15-30 years this problem will be solved... Added on July 17, 2007, 9:31 pmremember quote from another lyn member badan tinggi tak tau main boleh ajar pendek tau main tak boleh sambung kaki  |
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Jul 17 2007, 09:38 PM
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WTF...... the Sultan still dont want to resign..... he said he love football.....i also know he love football, but if he love our football but dont know and dont understand how football going on and how to improve football. it is useless to show his love to our malaysia team....... damn.... FAM must be have a lot road for him to suck the money from goverment. He still didnt resign....it wont be improving for the team.....
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Jul 17 2007, 09:44 PM
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Not to worry, the power will come in the hands of the voters during the FAM Congress in September... The Crap Sultan has pretty much accepted his fate: if the voters don't want him and kick him off the hot-seat, he will certainly step down...
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Jul 17 2007, 09:44 PM
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Hell, we love football too. Maybe we all can challenge for the FAM top post.
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Jul 17 2007, 09:50 PM
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Eh, Khairy resigned? He introduced MyTeam, and he resigned? Aw. :/
He made an effort to improve the national team. |
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 Jul 17 2007, 09:50 PM
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Well, i can only imagine the future FAM top brass:
President: Datuk Ahmad Basri Akil Deputy: Ismail Ibrahim (Selangor's charismatic ex-captain) General Secretary: Lim Teong Kim Committee: Zainal Abidin Hassan, Dollah Salleh, Steve Darby, Scott Ollerenshaw, Khairy Jamaluddin (he shouldn't have resigned) National Team Manager: Shebby Singh National Coach: Alan Vest (ex-Sarawak coach) This post has been edited by THT United Gadgets: Jul 17 2007, 09:51 PM |
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Jul 17 2007, 10:15 PM
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QUOTE(Sheep319 @ Jul 17 2007, 09:50 PM) Eh, Khairy resigned? He introduced MyTeam, and he resigned? Aw. :/ dont u think he has a hidden agenda behind all this MyTeam stuffs ?He made an effort to improve the national team. |
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Jul 17 2007, 11:33 PM
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QUOTE(Flizzardo @ Jul 17 2007, 09:27 PM) guys stop attacking the royal family... and the management ... its not their fault... no matter how skillful a player is but they restricted and limited by their pysical.. From a global perspective Mexico are a small side. Ok let's take a look at examples a little closer to home. Vietnam and Thailand are small sides.the problem is pyshical ,small and short the way to fix it is to change the eating of malaysian population the health ministry have to parcipate and encourge whole malaysian to feed thier young with more milk ... perhaps distribute TIGER extra calcium biscuiut throughout whole malaysia .. in 15-30 years this problem will be solved... Added on July 17, 2007, 9:31 pmremember quote from another lyn member badan tinggi tak tau main boleh ajar pendek tau main tak boleh sambung kaki |
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Jul 17 2007, 11:40 PM
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With such an embarrassing result so far... FAM should come out and appologize to the Malaysia public rather than saying "I won't quit because of failure and I will continue to do better..."
FAM should face the fact that they do not have sufficient knowledge to improve Malaysia Football... You might got the heart to do it but you got no brain to manage it... no offence... But it is best to accept the fact and leave the job to the expert that can really contribute to football of Malaysia. I have lost faith to Malaysia long time ago... probably more than 5 years already... watching local league football is boring and I do not wish to waste money to go stadium cheering for a team that play football at level which I can usually watch on school field. I do not see any improvement on Malaysia Football at all... instead the football quality of Malaysia is drop to kampung level... This post has been edited by hocksoo: Jul 17 2007, 11:44 PM |
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Jul 18 2007, 07:22 AM
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The problem with malaysian is expectation. We have to accept the fact that our football team is longer a dominant force even in SE asia. Maybe we were great in the 70s and 80s but that was history. Now we need to start again in order to improve our national team. Changing the FAM management should help but don't expect an overnight result. There still a long way to go.
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Jul 18 2007, 08:12 AM
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QUOTE(kcng @ Jul 17 2007, 10:15 PM) dont u think he has a hidden agenda behind all this MyTeam stuffs ? u just said what i want to say This post has been edited by MADReaLJL: Jul 18 2007, 08:12 AM |
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Jul 18 2007, 09:10 AM
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i would be happy if the all the member in FAM is replaced with a new batch of guy.....in my opinion, our national team performance is related with the management team....
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Jul 18 2007, 09:16 AM
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Hehehe, see my list on posting #141...
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Jul 18 2007, 09:22 AM
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QUOTE(THT United Gadgets @ Jul 17 2007, 09:44 PM) Not to worry, the power will come in the hands of the voters during the FAM Congress in September... The Crap Sultan has pretty much accepted his fate: if the voters don't want him and kick him off the hot-seat, he will certainly step down... Those FAM delegates wont have the balls to kcik the Sultan...takut kena daulat |
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Jul 18 2007, 09:46 AM
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QUOTE(zimhibikie @ Jul 18 2007, 09:22 AM) Those FAM delegates wont have the balls to kcik the Sultan...takut kena daulat daulat? what daulat? hailat more like it.. hehehehe anyway THT, damn nice line up u got there.. but most of the guys there are either striker or midfielder... how about some defense aaa? |
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Jul 18 2007, 09:47 AM
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From Utusan
Norizan baru terfikir taktik Oleh ABDUL HAFIZ AHMAD Norizan Bakar. KUALA LUMPUR - Setelah terkeluar daripada saingan ke suku akhir lebih awal dan bolos 10 gol, barulah jurulatih negara, Norizan Bakar terfikir untuk menerapkan corak bertahan apabila Malaysia melayani Iran di Stadium Nasional, Bukit Jalil, malam ini. Menyedari Iran tetap memburu kemenangan bagi menjuarai Kumpulan C pusingan akhir bola sepak Piala Asia ini sekalipun hanya perlu seri untuk mara, Norizan turut menetapkan matlamat untuk anak buahnya mengurangkan gol yang bakal membolosi gawang skuad negara. ''Kami perlu berpijak di bumi nyata. Kami tidak mampu menang dengan Iran tetapi pendekatan kami dalam perlawanan itu nanti perlu tepat iaitu bertahan dan menyekat lawan," katanya pada sidang akhbar di Hotel Prince di sini, semalam. Katanya, dua perlawanan lalu yang menyaksikan Malaysia dibelasah 5-1 dan 5-0 oleh China dan Uzbekistan sudah cukup mengajarnya dan skuad negara bahawa sebarang percubaan untuk menyerang hanya akan mendedahkan barisan belakang sehingga dihukum lawan. Ujar Norizan, ada beberapa muka baru dan rombakan dalam kesebelasan utama negara yang telah difikirkannya tetapi kesemuanya cuma boleh didedahkan beberapa jam sebelum perlawanan pukul 8.35 malam ini. Ditanya sama ada Suffian Ab. Rahman bakal menggantikan penjaga gol utama, Azizon Kadir, jurulatih skuad negara ini turut enggan mengesahkannya sekalipun terdapat segelintir pemain lain yang sentiasa memanaskan bangku simpanan sejak siri persahabatan, bulan lalu lagi. Bagaimanapun katanya: ''Semangat pasukan saya kini agak menurun tetapi kami perlu menjalankan tanggungjawab untuk menamatkan persaingan ini. Kami sedar kami dikritik hebat kerana dua kekalahan itu tetapi kami menganggapnya sebagai lumrah dalam bola sepak." Norizan mengakui sebarang pakar psikologi terbaik dunia pun tidak mampu memulihkan semangat pasukannya kini tetapi mereka akan cuba menjadikannya sebagai sebahagian pengajaran. Mengenai isu peletakan jawatan Timbalan Tengku Abdullah sebagai Timbalan Presiden Persatuan Bola Sepak Malaysia (FAM) dan beberapa pegawai majlisnya, Norizan terus enggan diheret sama ke dalamnya dan lebih berminat menumpukan perhatian kepada aksi dengan Iran. , can't stop laughing |
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Jul 18 2007, 10:10 AM
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OMG, he didn't come up with a defensive tactic until now?
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Jul 18 2007, 10:13 AM
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Source --> http://www.utusan.com.my/utusan/content.as...an&pg=su_01.htm
 "Saya baru terpikir taktik.." Fun sentences that I like from that news article: QUOTE barulah jurulatih negara, Norizan Bakar terfikir untuk menerapkan corak bertahan QUOTE menetapkan matlamat untuk anak buahnya mengurangkan gol yang bakal membolosi gawang skuad negara. QUOTE Kami tidak mampu menang dengan Iran QUOTE sebarang percubaan untuk menyerang hanya akan mendedahkan barisan belakang sehingga dihukum lawan. QUOTE ada beberapa muka baru dan rombakan dalam kesebelasan utama negara yang telah difikirkannya tetapi kesemuanya cuma boleh didedahkan beberapa jam sebelum perlawanan pukul 8.35 malam ini. QUOTE Kami sedar kami dikritik hebat kerana dua kekalahan itu tetapi kami menganggapnya sebagai lumrah dalam bola sepak. I like this guy alot |
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Jul 18 2007, 10:37 AM
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hahahah.. so funny.. what the heck la weh! ranked 149 and u wanna play attacking? where did he get such idea?
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Jul 18 2007, 10:42 AM
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Damn big lubang hidung. Lost every match still want to kembang ur lubang hidung ah? |
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Jul 18 2007, 11:17 AM
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dah kena 10 goals baru realize ka?
what a loser la u ni Norizan!!! toyo's statement even funny maaa national player boleh sewa2 ka? aiyaaaa...business minded punya olang itu pun mau bikin duit ke? tarak tgk bola itu toyol? |
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Jul 18 2007, 11:17 AM
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QUOTE(PrinceOfPersia @ Jul 18 2007, 09:47 AM) Norizan baru terfikir taktik |
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Jul 18 2007, 11:31 AM
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norizan also dunno what to say d ... pity him
if he said play attacking game, whole world will laugh him because whole world knows malaysian can't attack ... |
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Jul 18 2007, 12:33 PM
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check it out
www.blackparadeunited.com grab KOSMO! newspaper today...n trun to page 50. well guys..welcome to the black parade |
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Jul 18 2007, 01:20 PM
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QUOTE(PrinceOfPersia @ Jul 18 2007, 09:47 AM) From Utusan hahhahahhahaa, everything has juz turned into a big circus!Norizan baru terfikir taktik Oleh ABDUL HAFIZ AHMAD Norizan Bakar. KUALA LUMPUR - Setelah terkeluar daripada saingan ke suku akhir lebih awal dan bolos 10 gol, barulah jurulatih negara, Norizan Bakar terfikir untuk menerapkan corak bertahan apabila Malaysia melayani Iran di Stadium Nasional, Bukit Jalil, malam ini. Menyedari Iran tetap memburu kemenangan bagi menjuarai Kumpulan C pusingan akhir bola sepak Piala Asia ini sekalipun hanya perlu seri untuk mara, Norizan turut menetapkan matlamat untuk anak buahnya mengurangkan gol yang bakal membolosi gawang skuad negara. ''Kami perlu berpijak di bumi nyata. Kami tidak mampu menang dengan Iran tetapi pendekatan kami dalam perlawanan itu nanti perlu tepat iaitu bertahan dan menyekat lawan," katanya pada sidang akhbar di Hotel Prince di sini, semalam. Katanya, dua perlawanan lalu yang menyaksikan Malaysia dibelasah 5-1 dan 5-0 oleh China dan Uzbekistan sudah cukup mengajarnya dan skuad negara bahawa sebarang percubaan untuk menyerang hanya akan mendedahkan barisan belakang sehingga dihukum lawan. Ujar Norizan, ada beberapa muka baru dan rombakan dalam kesebelasan utama negara yang telah difikirkannya tetapi kesemuanya cuma boleh didedahkan beberapa jam sebelum perlawanan pukul 8.35 malam ini. Ditanya sama ada Suffian Ab. Rahman bakal menggantikan penjaga gol utama, Azizon Kadir, jurulatih skuad negara ini turut enggan mengesahkannya sekalipun terdapat segelintir pemain lain yang sentiasa memanaskan bangku simpanan sejak siri persahabatan, bulan lalu lagi. Bagaimanapun katanya: ''Semangat pasukan saya kini agak menurun tetapi kami perlu menjalankan tanggungjawab untuk menamatkan persaingan ini. Kami sedar kami dikritik hebat kerana dua kekalahan itu tetapi kami menganggapnya sebagai lumrah dalam bola sepak." Norizan mengakui sebarang pakar psikologi terbaik dunia pun tidak mampu memulihkan semangat pasukannya kini tetapi mereka akan cuba menjadikannya sebagai sebahagian pengajaran. Mengenai isu peletakan jawatan Timbalan Tengku Abdullah sebagai Timbalan Presiden Persatuan Bola Sepak Malaysia (FAM) dan beberapa pegawai majlisnya, Norizan terus enggan diheret sama ke dalamnya dan lebih berminat menumpukan perhatian kepada aksi dengan Iran. , can't stop laughing |
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Jul 18 2007, 01:31 PM
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still got the nerve to say 'lumrah' some more.
back in 80's, the lumrah was the other way round. ouf football going backward and become 'lumrah' already. |
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Jul 18 2007, 01:38 PM
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Kick all the royals who noes nothin about football and we can see Malaysia perform better...
Btw isit true tat the players will have their wage deducted from their respective clubs if they got injured while playing for the national team? |
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Jul 18 2007, 01:40 PM
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I joined LYN mid 2006.
Has it been like this (the pwng of FAM and national team) each time or this time it's the worse? Before I just ignore Malaysia's performance since I already knew how their performance gonna be. |
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Jul 18 2007, 01:49 PM
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PROJEK MENYEDARKAN FAM !! Jadi Jom Kita Pakat Mai !!! Tarikh : 18 Julai 2007 ( Rabu ) Tempat : Stadium Bukit Jalil ( Sempena Piala Asia : Malaysia vs Iran ) Masa : Bermula 7.00 petang Pakaian : Serba HITAM |
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Jul 18 2007, 04:08 PM
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QUOTE(aimleeds @ Jul 18 2007, 01:49 PM) PROJEK MENYEDARKAN FAM !! Don't forget to take photo of all the happi events there Jadi Jom Kita Pakat Mai !!! Tarikh : 18 Julai 2007 ( Rabu ) Tempat : Stadium Bukit Jalil ( Sempena Piala Asia : Malaysia vs Iran ) Masa : Bermula 7.00 petang Pakaian : Serba HITAM |
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 Jul 18 2007, 11:12 PM
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*No POLITICIAN and orang NYANYUK in FAM.....
professional pls "Politics is politics, Sports is sports" DOM"T MIX IT UP LIKE ROJAK!!!! *Where is the chinese player?? last time still got wong sai kong.... don't look down at chinese... because you also get defeated by china too.... *Squash PERFORMANCE-Going up, Badminton PERFORMANCE-Going up, Recieve more money than BAM but still going DOWN...  playing like school boys.... the whole team should participate in malaysia super league first... before go to challenge ASEAN good team like thailand, vietnam or indonesia... Totally agree with this.. "World Class Facilities, Third class FAM Management" IMO, even third class also don't have... shame on you!!  This post has been edited by Leonard liew: Jul 18 2007, 11:19 PM |
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Jul 18 2007, 11:16 PM
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Latest news, Norizan Bakar is fired by FAM after defeat.
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Jul 18 2007, 11:21 PM
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Wahaha there they go pointing fingers! norizan the scapegoat (not that i think he didn't do crap)
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Jul 19 2007, 12:54 AM
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But still i think he was put too much of a pressure...anyways i hope they will get a decent manager and hopefully they will stick wit the new one and perform better...
I strongly believe if they got better foundation they will perform much much better..I hope they wont throw away da current crop of players and start all over again...Its gonna take a long long time if they rebuild da team again.. |
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Jul 19 2007, 09:48 PM
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QUOTE(adrianocy @ Jul 16 2007, 11:10 AM) how to improve if every 10 mins break to smoke for 15 mins... you have evidence? |
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Jul 19 2007, 10:21 PM
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I still giggle whenever I imagine his face at the press conference saying "Saya baru terpikir taktik.." lol
Perhaps Mod can change the sub-title of this topic (from the old news of Tengku stepping down, to this guy getting fired) |
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Jul 20 2007, 08:53 AM
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Well, guess there would be another 'puppet' or someone who don't care/know about football management will be appointed next. The outlook for FAM is uncertain...
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Jul 20 2007, 09:08 AM
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QUOTE(Raikkonen @ Jul 18 2007, 01:40 PM) I joined LYN mid 2006. its getting worst.............Has it been like this (the pwng of FAM and national team) each time or this time it's the worse? Before I just ignore Malaysia's performance since I already knew how their performance gonna be. QUOTE(firedauz @ Jul 19 2007, 10:21 PM) I still giggle whenever I imagine his face at the press conference saying "Saya baru terpikir taktik.." lol baru terpikir tactikPerhaps Mod can change the sub-title of this topic (from the old news of Tengku stepping down, to this guy getting fired) ya allah its like scrambling to find your football equipment 5 mins before the game start |
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Jul 20 2007, 09:11 AM
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when we lost 6-0 to man united in 2001 and brazil 4-0 in 2002, FAM act nothing ...
sigh ... we really play a lot of useless friendly match before ... |
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Jul 20 2007, 10:42 AM
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POLITIC WONT WIN FOOTBALL!!!!!
our malaysia team walk down so long due to the politic problems,they still dun understand...... Just roll back all management in FAM,coaches and players for malaysia squad and rebuild back the squad....During the progress to rebuild,for me i dun mind malaysia win or lose,at least there got improvement then enough already....Do u guys realize that when our shining time,there are mix players in our squad like indian,malay and chinese...But now in malaysia mostly dominated by malays...Where Indians and Chinese??They also can ply football well |
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Jul 20 2007, 10:56 AM
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What an about turn, now it seems he is still coach of our team and hasn't been fired as reported
 How the heck did this happen? Was it a lack of communication? (don't we all speak the same language? dialect?). Was it a change of heart? |
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Jul 20 2007, 11:09 AM
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QUOTE(ichigo89 @ Jul 20 2007, 10:42 AM) POLITIC WONT WIN FOOTBALL!!!!! there is no issue about the races. our malaysia team walk down so long due to the politic problems,they still dun understand...... Just roll back all management in FAM,coaches and players for malaysia squad and rebuild back the squad....During the progress to rebuild,for me i dun mind malaysia win or lose,at least there got improvement then enough already....Do u guys realize that when our shining time,there are mix players in our squad like indian,malay and chinese...But now in malaysia mostly dominated by malays...Where Indians and Chinese??They also can ply football well all the players are selected from local league(s-league and p-league.) as I know,not many chinese playing in the league may be the chinese not interested in playing football as their career.the same thing happened to Singapore national team.Most of the players are the malay... |
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Jul 20 2007, 11:18 AM
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QUOTE(patt_sue @ Jul 20 2007, 11:09 AM) may be the chinese not interested in playing football as their career. Most of the players are the malay... Ever wonder why? |
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Jul 20 2007, 11:24 AM
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cannot become millionaire ?
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Jul 20 2007, 11:58 AM
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QUOTE(Duke Red @ Jul 20 2007, 11:18 AM) Ever wonder why? do we still need to wonder ?QUOTE(munky @ Jul 20 2007, 11:24 AM) cannot become millionaire ? nope, its because of the sad state the malaysian football is in...some state FA did not even pay player salaries not for one month but a few months...... |
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Jul 20 2007, 02:49 PM
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QUOTE(Duke Red @ Jul 20 2007, 11:18 AM) Ever wonder why? there is no guarantee... |
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Jul 21 2007, 04:21 PM
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there are many good players everywhere, but mostly are not selected instead they select other Malay guy, this means wat i duno la, but many talents are burried by those unhealthy coaches. E.G, my fren a bumi, he can play very well, but end of the day, teacher no select him, wholeteam all is Malay. Y? n this keep happening? change who sit the seat also no use la, they should change those who can realli dig out talents n not burried them. peace.
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Jul 21 2007, 05:39 PM
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QUOTE(Duke Red @ Jul 20 2007, 11:18 AM) Ever wonder why? IMHO:1. Chinese parents focus more on education instead of sports. 2. Chinese are generally more interested in Chinese-dominant sports like basketball and table tennis. 3. Not enough opportunity? 4. Playing football in Malaysia is not exactly the best way to live a comfortable life. Added on July 21, 2007, 5:40 pm QUOTE(notorius @ Jul 21 2007, 04:21 PM) there are many good players everywhere, but mostly are not selected instead they select other Malay guy, this means wat i duno la, but many talents are burried by those unhealthy coaches. E.G, my fren a bumi, he can play very well, but end of the day, teacher no select him, wholeteam all is Malay. Y? n this keep happening? change who sit the seat also no use la, they should change those who can realli dig out talents n not burried them. peace. I'm really not sure about this racial-based selection. But due to its sensitivity, i don't think we should discuss about this point.... well, at least not publicly LOL.This post has been edited by zc_squash: Jul 21 2007, 05:40 PM |
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Jul 22 2007, 10:57 AM
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QUOTE(zc_squash @ Jul 21 2007, 05:39 PM) IMHO: the parents know that football in malaysia can give u nuts for a living1. Chinese parents focus more on education instead of sports. 2. Chinese are generally more interested in Chinese-dominant sports like basketball and table tennis. 3. Not enough opportunity? 4. Playing football in Malaysia is not exactly the best way to live a comfortable life. |
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Jul 22 2007, 12:22 PM
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QUOTE(zc_squash @ Jul 21 2007, 05:39 PM) IMHO: u 4got badminton n squash 2. Chinese are generally more interested in Chinese-dominant sports like basketball and table tennis. |
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Jul 22 2007, 11:53 PM
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QUOTE(zc_squash @ Jul 21 2007, 05:39 PM) IMHO: Even at MSSD level for secondary schools in the Damansara area, you can count the number of Chinese who play football on both hands. The problem begins at the grassroots level. Only private schools like Sri KDU have a majority of Chinese in their football squad.1. Chinese parents focus more on education instead of sports. 2. Chinese are generally more interested in Chinese-dominant sports like basketball and table tennis. 3. Not enough opportunity? 4. Playing football in Malaysia is not exactly the best way to live a comfortable life. |
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Jul 23 2007, 02:36 PM
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QUOTE(zc_squash @ Jul 21 2007, 05:39 PM) 4. Playing football in Malaysia is not exactly the best way to live a comfortable life. What about playing overseas? Many of us have had overseas education where we have the opportunity to get some proper training, whether it be for representing the school or university. I understand that not many Chinese want to end up playing in our local league, but it doesn't mean they can't look abroad. That way, they will have quality training and if they choose to do so, represent the nation. |
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