yesterday
i was downloading E3 content from US account
then i download this trailler
first review to public in E3
multiplatform game

more information at his web
http://na.square-enix.com/remnant/

cool trailer
support 720P HD

Hmm....any release dates ? They mentioned Jap and North America released at the same time....

very nice indeed~~

at the end of the trailer, its written thatere: Unreal Engine. Does this means its using the same engine that drives Unreal??

same engine as GearsOfWar

gears of war using unreal engine ?

is it GOW using unreal??
i tot unreal only used for fps game

yup gow used the unreal engine

By the years , EPIC use to name their engine as Unreal Engine , and their game as Unreal and Unreal Tournament . Hence , spawns off the many version of Unreal thingy and to date , the most recent Unreal Engine is UE3 (which GOW , R6V etc using) , the game Unreal 2 (the crappy fps one with story uses UE2) and the soon-to-be-released Unreal Tournament 3 . (UT is mp only game just like Quake3) .

And nope ,Unreal Engine is not really particular for FPS game . During the years , many games had been powered by Unreal Engine 2 (or modified based on it) . Those that I can recall was Splinter Cell and Lineage II .

This post has been edited by Breaktru: Jul 16 2007, 04:43 PM

doesnt matter wat engine they want to ised
even v6 engine also i dont care
more important is...
i will bought this game for sure

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This post has been edited by xylotrupes: Jul 17 2007, 10:54 AM

Yeah , it's the game matter . Jrpg + Square (minus Enix) = Rocks . I'm not sure but I've lost some faith to Square since the merge .

as long as the game like FF
i will definately bought it
since day of ff and legion of dragoon
it was hard to find any rpg game that suits my type

Squarenix+RPG=FTW!

slightly off topic.. what other RPG games can i get for xbox360.. kinda new in xbox360 world here

blue dragon,enchaned arm,eternal sonata

and oblivion?

360 got litttle title only for RPG.. most RPG game.. from japan.. org japan kedekut... to give to 360.. donno why la..

This post has been edited by samurai20: Nov 9 2007, 03:50 PM

bump this thread

Nampak macam the final fantasy with Vaan sahaja... same old hero 'type'... well, a final fantasy clone by the makers of final fantasy?

This post has been edited by madmoz: Nov 9 2007, 09:33 PM

er...guys..isn't it the same with Lost Odyssey? or is it two diff titles? confuse here...

Square Enix.

Must be nice game. i taught FF in the first place. LOL.

Even tom clancys rainbow six vegas using unreal engine tech.

diff
i saw the trailer
verry diff from lost odyssey

lain ler. one from square. another one from people who previously worked for square.

The Last Remnant will feature a brand new battle system labelled by Hiroshi Takai (director) as a "Turn-burst, command-based system using symbol encounters." There will be no random encounters. It will also contain quick time events, sequences where the player must press a combination of buttons with a correct timing to defeat enemies. This system has appeared in other video games before The Last Remnant, for instance in Shenmue, Dark Cloud, Kingdom Hearts II and God of War.

In addition to the main character, the player's team (called a "Union") is composed of a number of soldiers whose skills vary according to different parameters. One parameter is the "morale" bar, which is affected by the events in battle and affects the way characters perform in battle. Battles can involve up to 70 enemies at once and will be at the core of the gameplay. Nobuyuki Ueda has commented on the battle system, claiming that it is "much deeper than the few seconds it received in the movie". Additionally, a high number of quests are expected.

::Trailers::



::Screenies::





This post has been edited by -= Virgil =-: Jun 10 2008, 07:06 PM

Seen it, love it, can't wait to get my hands on it.

Love JRPGs which stay true to tradition, turn-based/menu battle system. New stuff(which work properly) in JRPGs are great but things that change the traditional gameplay elements...not good IMO. for example- FF12. i grew up playing FF4 til FF10, loved em all.. then FF12 came along and ZOMG, hated it. If I wanted to play an RPG like that, I would have continued playing WoW.

Hopefully last remnant is more traditional than FF12. and hopefully also a bit more modern than the dull combat of LO. (Still love LO though, it was a good JRPG)

i have same test like u, i don't like FF12.. If wan play action rpgs, i think westerners are doing them better. I think last remnant combat is like the upcoming FF13, dunno how to explain, have to see it urself.

I grew up playing FF7 - FF12 as well as other various RPG titles. Pretty much easy to adapt & like the combat systems. I like the FF12 action combat system (bring fresh air to rpg game genre).

Just love the JRPG story telling & emotional touch from the soundtracks. This game looks very promising to me. Hope it lift up to my expectation.

Some work art on this upcoming game.

can't wait to play this . hope it will score big points for the xbox .

The Last Remnant Japanese TV Spot



Looking good

November 20th...that the date ..Alamak pokai lah cam ni
All the good title comes out end of the year..
And now boring to death ,no good title out.

Yup...coming this thursday
I wonder how gd is this title

reviews so far are mixed. some say its average, some say its better than expected.

i'll wait for more impressions before deciding.

alamak nov 20th ker
im not even finish play infinite undiscovery laa

hahahaha... same here!!! and i still havent finish Mass Effect & Mirror's Edge as well~

so many games, so little time..... and not enough money!!!

so many game so litle time ok

like me
so many game sometimes got time but machine 3rod
how

sell buy new one la... .. aku tau ko dapat bonus 5 bulan.... ... masa untuk change to jesper..

perghhh
kaya2...kalau laa company aku bagi 5 bulan

fuh 5 bulan tu bang.. banyak tu... hahaha many many rm.....apa lagi beli lah satu replace ment for ur xb360.. or kalau nak beli 2 pun ok bagi kat aku satu..

will this be available at GH tomorrow?????

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Added on November 20, 2008, 10:37 amno one else hyped about this? *sobs

This post has been edited by jOlv: Nov 20 2008, 10:37 AM

i am waiting for this.....Djinn, any idea when this is available ?

Asian version delay by 1 week according to p-a

got my copy oh japanese LAST REMNANT... *cough*

no english sub...no english voice....

but battle really fun tho.... must buy title this year for XBOX JRPG fans 2 Disc FYI...

hmm altho the engine made bu UE3...seems other makers cant fully utilised the engine.... only Epic who developed the Unreal Engine can produce good quality game...

graphic and cut scene really awesome.... beautiful...but load time for battle...actually short but not smooth enough... but the battle really cool..... really a next gen rpg ....

ah... this game so nice... must have...

too bad can't read japanese... I think Yunax shd be playing now.. wait for his comments

Hey, where did you got your copy?

You staying in Japan?

Going to get myself a japanese copy too.

bro, can u try to switch ur locale to chinese and see whether it will show chinese menu and sub or not? If like that those who can understand chinese can go and grab it 1st

no...japan version fully japanese....even change the console language also same.....

I was. Until I played it...

game is out btw ..

bedhouin, is the game bad?

man the gameplay is too confusing . i see that u set one specific action to the group and u see them do the action to the enemies one by one with some flashy slow motion thingy .

Some of the innovations are good. City maps mean fast travel and never being lost. Over world maps mean getting straight to your destination, and no random battles to piss you off.

The voice acting for the most part is wooden and stiff. The character models in cut scenes are badly animated - they look like they're handicapped while walking. Compared to FF's FMV sequences these in-game cutscenes are pretty embarassing.

Lots of texture pop-in and framerate drops - but everyone has been talking about that. Installing with NXE doesn't eliminate the problem.

All of the above I can look past, but I don't get the combat system.

Firstly the screen really does look cluttered. The camera is positioned too far back you don't really get a good look at your units or the enemies. You feel really detached from your "union" during battle. They should have had a close up cam, and a separate tactical view. Maybe its early days but I don't even know the difference between my unions. I just initiate attack after attack by spamming the 'A' button.

When the combat sequences start I have no idea what is going on. I just sit there and watch a series of fights, but I don't know who is attacking what. In one mission where I wasn't fighting monsters but characters similar to mine, I didn't know if I was being hit or was attacking in the sequence. I only found out that one of my unions was KO'd at the end when I reached the order phase and had one unit less to command.

There are a lot of interesting options with the combat such as deadlocks and flank attacks. Unfortunately I can't really tell what I'm doing without a tactical map. I just attack and it tells me that I flanked someone - hooray.

Bottom line I'm finding the combat system quite confusing. Maybe it's because I suck. You might like it more, but give it a try before you buy. I've never fallen asleep playing a game before, but I was so bored and uninterested during the combat I started dozing off. That's when I turned it off.

I don't want to bash the game, I was really looking forward to a new tactical JRPG to play but this wasn't what I was expecting. Your mileage may vary.

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Added on November 22, 2008, 12:28 pmSame here. I had no clue what was going on. Just attack, attack, attack, then watch, watch, watch.

This post has been edited by bedhouin: Nov 22 2008, 12:28 PM

Maybe you guys don't read the manual?

Anyway, reviewers out there are complaining about visually confusing battles too... But as a RPG fan, i have to buy it even it sucks

Gamespot says if u can bear with the technical flaw, it is a good game to play.

A score of 6.5 is pretty weak for a Square game. But it's about right. I would have rated it at around 6. I wonder what IGN and EG will have to say.

This post has been edited by bedhouin: Nov 22 2008, 06:39 PM

lots of negative reviews for x360 rpg throughout the year, only Tales of Vesperia managed to survive lol. BUt famitsu gave last remnant 38/40, probably japanese have some different taste from us lolz.

wth, famitsu 38/40 lol while others is giving this a bad writeup except gametrailers... aih why did they have all the tech flaws and all. So who hated this game and wanna sell it over to me? hahaa

looks like i gotta look for Star Ocean

I've been waiting so long for this game and I cant just let it drop from my queue just because of some low ratings and bad reviews...
gonna get it soon

Lol.. me too.. gonna try it out. At least this game got limit break.. Lost odyssey all no limit break one.. Lost odyssey also got bad review here and there, but still got ppl say it is the best rpg. Will give my opinion once i got my hands on it.

I still will buy it, graphic quite nice....
Lost odyssey a bit bored.. but still quite nice to me

check here to see the review by Gameplayer.

well 8/10.... not so bad rite?

well
i will buy this game after i finish my infinite undiscovery

a must game for me

Heard that it is smoother if you 'copy' the game into your XBOX HDD....any confirmation ?

ign gave it a 5.3

are they gonnna release it on other platforms? I believe by then the tech flaws can be resolved ;[

IGN always bashes jRPG, espeically turn based, screw their review.

I'm gonna get this regardless of the reviews When will it be available anyway, tomorrow?

Tried the game already. Yeah, the load time is damn fustrating BUT after i install the game on HDD. BIG improvement man! The game became enjoyable edi. Load time not that long edi. Looking forward to play more...

Just install la.. easy and smooth... ... but this game damn hard weii... mampos byk kali.. fight ngan normal monster... .... hmm maybe my RPG skill already "berkarat".... .... and i like this game.... same as BD and LO

alot smoother if you install to hdd.

sorry to say this... it fail on my expectation after what happen to infinite discovery, they seem like trying too hard.

well nevertheless, i will still try to finish the game. : D

so far the best jrpg i played on X360 was Lost Odyssey and Tales Of Vesperia.

But LO was boring...how's Tales compared to LO?

Argh where do you guys get your copies?

for me, tales of vesperia is the best among jrpg on 360... Blue Dragon is fun with colorful gameplay n got no random encounter
Lost Odyssey good with storyline.... a bit sad story...n i dont like sad stuff

is it not out yet at GH?

Damm, if i get it i must install onto my HDD right? I havent' look into the fray with NXE.

yeah~~~where u get ur copies ~~~~ share plsss !!!!

This game is available at my store

just got it today as well..

Aduh, so slow? Keep a copy for me, i'll come tonight!

gotten my pre-order copy.. so regret to buy this shit www but the boss give me member price for sgd55 www after i told him this game suck ass w..

i almost fell down when the sales telling someone this is a mega hit.. more like mega flop.. w

whatever.. anyway.. i just hope i can finish this shit n.. get over with it.

It's not that bad... Yea there are a lot of graphic problem, constantly, even installed on hdd, but that is not the only reason we play games, right? Ok, the battle might be confusing at first... but after you get used to it (assuming you haven't give up), it's actually quite interesting.

Unreal Engine... all the same problem... ... mapping popup and loading time... "worst" ....

Anybody who play this game, care to give comments? I have high expectation for this because of SE but the reviews seems to be a let down. Graphic glitches and poor gameplay... . How's the storyline (important to me cause that's the main reason i play jrpg)?

i don't really care about load time, if you have problem with load time just install the shit into hdd.. perform like a charm.

my problem are with the game itself, the quality seem to fade quickly.. just wish it will pull me in more like how LO and pretty soon TOV... it's the storyline man!

i need more something like LO www. i played jrpg all my life.. this is the worst shit square ever produce.. seriously give me back squaresoft......

I think is how square-unix use the codes for unreal engine.. Maybe not "pro" ? But all these hard to say, Maybe Unreal Engine is not meant for RPG games.. More for Shooters..

Funny, i like this more than LO actually. LO gameplay mechanics is simply, you'll find out that you know the drill in no time and the game quickly loses challenge. While LR is a bit tricky, i don't know if i'm doing it wrongly or what, but the battles are pretty difficult... But of course, this might not appeal to everyone...

I don't really care about story, because all games carry shit stories nowadays, i gave up long time ago.

You mean the game gets boring fast?

So how is the story so far? IMO the storyline of most jrpg is something like watching anime...so games with good storyline appeals me. The infinite discovery I'd played have ok storyline but just when you are getting attach it ended up so abruptly where things could have been better. Haven't tried TOV yet still thinking of getting one

Well, i'm just not far from the beginning, not far into the story yet, but so far, i find the story... not appealing. Combine with the lame animation, you'll probably find it not satisfactory... Don't count on my thought tho, the story might take a turning later in the game and become epic, who knows

just got my copy last nite and began playing for a few hours....overall, I would give it an average...nothing to hoo ha about, maybe because I just started...

The graphic wise, there's a bit of glitch, even though I installed it into my HDD and play from the HDD...

Battle system...we really need to levelup more at the beginning of the game when the Four Generals are with you, else we will be easily KO-ed after Rush decides to leave Anthlum and go venture his own...

Storyline...is quite typical, with a Brother(Rush) searching for his sister(Irina) and acting recklessly whenever he sees his sister (am at WillDoor or was it DoorWill, forgot ><)...hope he will grow up later in the game...

yeah Unreal Engine for "shooter" game ONLY...

i guess that unreal engine works as expected. itu graphic pon ada glitch, so now sudah tak real. then become unreal la. haha hence the name unreal engine.

I'm clocking at 15 hours, did some of the sub quest. This game is not bad IMHO but it's kinda hard and have confusing battle systems. So far the story and quest bosses are not that hard to kill but i just met my match and got lots of game overs when i met the RARE monsters.They're even harder to kill than the boss and have lots of HPs with multi-hit skills that hit so HARD. Gonna try again tonight

This post has been edited by kuuga28: Dec 2 2008, 01:21 PM

I want turn based action&$!!

hmmph nak habiskan Lost Odysey lah....

Last Remnant has a lot of RPG elements that I like, such as

- the characters can master both Mystic arts and Combat arts, instead of some RPG where the certain characters are only good at certain skill/magics
- Equipment / weapon / accessory customization
- Item / material harvesting using Mr Diggs
- Use of 'limit breaks', kinda rare to see limit breaks in RPG nowadays (major influence from FF series)
- Possible summons ( I heard Rush can summon a Cyclops, but I think I can't yet)
- Characters are not restricted to using one type of weapon only.
- HP and AP restored after a battle

There are also things I don't like
- quite a large scale of arsenal and equipments, means you will be burning money...
- money is very hard to earn...
- the areas /maps are small / medium, nothing much to explore
- limit breaks are very hard to build...and it does not carry forward to the next battle...
- magic graphics are simple, and does not differentiate even though is at different level, like Spark is same like Spark III, but only the damage is higher...

yeah that kinda lame.. ... but i still cant summon "big gun or monster" arhhh tension... bila nak dapat nie.... anyway... i try to finish IU 1st then... after that will con.. this game.... ( must buy guide book... )

This post has been edited by samurai20: Dec 2 2008, 08:05 PM

The evocation magics becomes multi-shot when they reach higher level. Combining multiple mages and the magic enhancing formation, they are like a nuclear team...

Money, use the rare monster spawning trick, farming those rare monsters that give tons of gold, you'll be having too much gold in no time.

The "limit-break", i still don't understand how are they triggered.... seem like random only

Some stupid quest bosses use AOE attack every DAMN turn and multi-deadlock, those are really SOB... Some AOE status effect attack some more, aduhai... I gave up on some until my BR gets higher and can totally pwn them...

This post has been edited by zhiyung: Dec 3 2008, 01:08 AM

Yeah i really can't understand how Limit Break's triggered too,it's probably random coz sometimes when the battle just started,my Dave's already able to use his big cannon attack but i do find that if your party are in nearly dying stage,the Limit Break shows up more.

Bosses with AOE attack's very annoying..especially the one that cast the FREAKING CURSE not to mention most of the bosses cast that status spell ...i wish my party can cast that status spell...AOE CURSE FTW....

the boss battle sounds so hard to defeat ....

The most important thing you gotta do in this game is SAVE OFTEN.

For some of the rare (strong) monsters and bosses, you simply can't tell the appearance difference between them and normal ones... you link it with some other monsters, you go into battle, you hear boss music playing, you say 'shit', you pray hard, you game over, you restart.

I remember when i was collecting material to make dragonfly, i fought mobs that are way too high level for my party (i crafted them when i was ~BR30), every turn i pray hard, please don't use cavalry call, because it automatically means game over for my party...

probably the limit break is random like ff8 hmmm

Rare monsters have different colour when you targetted them,their name's are in green. Cavalry call is the most annoying skills the rare monster uses.Once the rare uses that skills..it's bye bye Rush and gang.

Anyone knows how to increase the basic AP....I am at BlackDale now and I do not have any members in my Union...my AP is stucked at 6 (basic 5 + accessory increase 5%)... i got a few times of AP increase/level up message, but it is still stuck at 5 !!!!

A bit earlier, I am able to use Combat Art (Kneel Splitter II - 6AP) at the start of battle, but after the Kneel Splitter II became Mighty Kneel Splitter II, I am only left with 2 or 3 Commands - Attack, Heal, Standby...very de sienz....