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post Jan 4 2020, 09:35 AM

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QUOTE(KineticKill @ Jan 4 2020, 09:28 AM)
Hm. Media played a big role in hyping up the wrong things about him. I remember the first thing people say about the black shoes is how shoe sellers are going to survive with those unsold white shoes. Rather than proactively trying to solve the problem, they chose to smear his name right away. It’s downhill from there.
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Ya know media control by ???
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post Jan 4 2020, 09:36 AM

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What's next? Gonna say LGE actually did some work, is it?
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post Jan 4 2020, 09:38 AM

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Didn't know we had a socialist party in Malaysia...
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post Jan 4 2020, 09:41 AM

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This article highlights Mazlee problem in politics. He punish the cronies. Cronies is the one that will fund the party political movement. If kroni no money then political party also no money
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post Jan 4 2020, 09:45 AM

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QUOTE(renomahans @ Jan 4 2020, 09:34 AM)
Funny how the bn and pas supporters chastise the ph ones for defending him

And now he resigned, they chastise ph supporters for demanding his resignation

Lol
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post Jan 4 2020, 09:48 AM

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Where were these articles last year?
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I like to see lge resigned, and really want to read opinion as such especially from psm.

But my 1st preferred choice for this experiment will be waytharmoorty and I bet he will also get the 400000 petition for reinstatement.
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post Jan 4 2020, 09:55 AM

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Yala salah media

Dulu bn menteri cakap salah media ktard laugh
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post Jan 4 2020, 09:56 AM

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QUOTE(Mixo Mania @ Jan 4 2020, 09:48 AM)
Where were these articles last year?
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If you selectively only want to hear about kasut hitam or jawi issue, you wont be able to read all these la.

Try google mazlee with relevant things he had done, is all there. But people just prefer to bash on those sensational news on him.

QUOTE(renomahans @ Jan 4 2020, 09:35 AM)
Ya know media control by ???
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It because of no control that the media just make sensational news.

How many time i caught media nowadays report differently in expression than the actual interview or press conference.

This post has been edited by jenniferjen: Jan 4 2020, 09:57 AM
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post Jan 4 2020, 09:58 AM

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Chinese people don’t like Maszlee because he is more islamic than any EM..

Malay dont like Maszlee because his black shoes, simpang renggam tol issue.

Indian no issue with Maszlee.


Maszlee will still be EM if Thanos not in PH, but truth told, without Thanos, I dont think PH can win the GE.

Anyhow, we lost good EM, the Khat issue is small, but hatred from non malay towards Maszlee decision was on it was bigger than the issue..

Should sack the DEM that allow such propaganda comic..
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post Jan 4 2020, 09:58 AM

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"On other issues - free quality breakfast, opening up hotel swimming pools to students, doing away with streaming and exams, making education accessible to OKUs and undocumented children..."


GOOD or BAD, cannot be dictated by what was done. It is the end result. Yes, I opened 1000 schools, I done that. ....What was the result?. Doing something does not mean GOOD ultimately.


Example: Quality breakfast....how was this program undertaken?


Purpose:
good eating habits and civic consciousness about food.

Funding:

The free breakfast programme, he said will be handled the same way as the current Supplementary Food Programme (RMT) and prepared by the schools' respective canteens.

290 million ringgit will be used to fund this.

What meals?
: (50 million) Milk and "other foods" What is the list?.....none?. 250 million goes to the actual "food" (unknown as well).

How long?: 190 days.


I am skeptical of such "general" planning. Could do better than give a chart of what kids eat in canteen/school today VS what are the food plans. Aside terminating canteen contracts.

Most of us are grown up in our kids days with
a) ice popsickles
b) bee hoon / noodle soup
c) fried rice
d) maybe some ice milo/soda drink
e) those crap sugar stuff that cost from 10 to 50 cents.

so...what is this program replacing?...
250 million isn't much to be honest for ALL schools.

We have 7773 primary schools today.
For 190 days, for 7773 schools there.... each gets an allocation of
$170 per day.

If there are total 170 primary students (standard 1-6) ....what kind of "Quality" breakfast can you get with $1 ?.


It's NOT a genius math, it's just there..... RM$170 per day, per primary school.




Ref:
https://www.nst.com.my/news/nation/2019/08/...od-says-maszlee

https://www.freemalaysiatoday.com/category/...eputy-minister/

http://myschoolchildren.com/list-of-all-pr...a/#.XhDPJ_x7laQ

This post has been edited by Heroicage: Jan 4 2020, 10:00 AM
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post Jan 4 2020, 10:01 AM

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QUOTE(bani_prime @ Jan 4 2020, 09:07 AM)
*Maszlee – behind the black shoes* PARTI SOSIALIS MALAYSIA – 3RD JAN,2020.

I am inspired to write this article after reading all the comments in Mkini; bashing Maszlee Malik and I am sure, this piece will end up in the same tone.

Maszlee Malik’s sudden resignation took many people and me myself by surprise. It seems that he was forced into the resignation by the Prime Minister. One wonders what the plan is since until Maszlee was appointed; the only other person who was interested in the job was Mahathir himself. Maszlee’s resignation speech – reading from between the lines would confirm that Mahathir wanted him out. 

Maszlee has definitely been made a scapegoat here. He has been always made to look like a dumb Minister who doesn’t know his job. Sensational media reporting and often unfair titles put him always in the defensive mode.

He was polled as the second lowest – 27 out 28 in Malaysiakini’s poll on Ministers’ performance. This is understandable because most Mkini readers are middle class, mostly non-Malay and have a definite bias against him. They fear that Maszlee with his Islamic credentials was going to turn our education system into an Islamic one. Most DAP leaders scored high points. Now imagine if Harakah conducted a similar poll and you will know how the outcome would be.

The Black shoe labelling never left him and it was always used to ridicule and undermine him. I am sure if we took a vote among students, they would prefer black shoes to white. Anyway that is not the point here.

Mahathir has decided to replace him and therefore it would be easy now to put all the blame on the Jawi issue, matriculation and other controversial stuff on him.  Two of Mahathir’s staunch supporters Tun Daim and Rafidah Aziz have constantly taken swipes at him and that is further indication that he has fallen out of favour with the Mighty M.

Let me share a personal experience and tell you why some of us have a soft spot for him. JPKK which is a network of contract workers in Government departments has been campaigning over the years to improve the plight of contract workers mainly cleaners and security guards in schools. We have previously tried in vain to meet with the previous education Minister. The only people who met us were some officers and department heads, who were not in a position to make decisions.
But the PH Education Minister Maszlee quite readily gave us an appointment to meet and have a dialogue with us. I was very sceptical before the meeting based on the bad image formed in my mind about him. Before the meeting, his office asked for our memorandum and proposal, which was itself quite out of the ordinary.

At the meeting, we were pleasantly surprised to note that he had actually read our memorandum beforehand. He was not pretending as if he knew everything, which most Ministers try to do. He addressed each of our proposals and directed his officials to act on them. He then told us that he will bring up our proposals in the Cabinet meeting the next day. I thought he was pulling a fast one because that is what most Ministers tell you. True to his promise, he issued a media statement after the cabinet meeting, saying that he raised the issue of parasitic and underperforming crony contractors will be blacklisted and replaced. He also said that the whole system needed to be relooked at and agreed to look into our proposal to employ workers directly and not through a middleperson who in many instances ended up taking a portion of the salary of the workers. This was the first Minister who actually looked at the fundamental issue rather than give the usual excuses.

Since then, we had the pleasure of working with some of his officers, specifically Shaza, who used to update us on a weekly basis, working past office hours, listening to the many complaints we raised about the problematic contract system in school. This attitude changed our view that most of those working in Government ‘makan gaji buta’ and just work 9 to 5. For that, let me salute them.

Now let me touch on other issues not raised in the current petition going around supporting him.  For example, under Maszlee, student activists were more protected; he prevented University authorities from taking action on students each time they expressed themselves through protests and other actions. During previous Administration, the Minister always stood with the establishment and not the students. That is something which helped students to express themselves knowing very well that they had protection from disciplinary action.

I was also told by many teachers that Maszlee made many reforms in the school system but many of his reforms did not go well on the ground because the bureaucracy was not assisting. It is not surprising that the Teachers Union NUTP speaks so highly of him. Many teachers too have since expressed how Maszlee did actually addresses some of the main issues raised by teachers.

He made many u-turns after bringing matters to the cabinet. This can be seen with the matriculation issue and Jawi. It is maybe that he is inexperienced as he has always stated himself or maybe he should have talked less, like the many PH Ministers who don’t say much, preferring to be silent in order to survive. Most of these issues were tough issues like JAWI, Matriculation and Unified Examination Certificate (UEC) are difficult issues. These are issues which has been there for 6 decades which PH as a team have been unable to address since they end up playing the same racial game like the BN. Therefore it is unfair that Maszlee is blamed when on all occasion, the cabinet took the decision with of course ayahanda Mahathir sitting at the helm.

On other issues -  free quality breakfast,  opening up hotel swimming pools to students, doing away with streaming and exams, making education accessible to OKUs and undocumented children. These are huge achievements compared to the black shoe which hardly got mentioned. It was reported that he opened 10,200 classes to cater for 24,998 OKU special children. On all these initiatives, I am with him because he has contributed towards creating a more caring society and opening up public spaces for the commons.

Since coming to power, he has resigned twice. Once, after being appointed as the President of the International Islamic University Malaysia (IIUM) when students and many spoke about conflict of interest and now. On the first occasion, even Mahathir supported his appointment but he took the right decision to resign but this time it is a no choice situation  Mahathir called for his resignation and it could be part of a likely cabinet reshuffle. Maszlee should feel happy that  he was not removed due to corruption or other scandals. He went in without a Datukship and came out without one.  To Maszlee all the best.

*S.Arutchelvan*  _PSM Deputy Chairperson_
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Action talk louder than words, his actions speak otherwise than wats written above.
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QUOTE(Heroicage @ Jan 4 2020, 09:58 AM)
"On other issues - free quality breakfast, opening up hotel swimming pools to students, doing away with streaming and exams, making education accessible to OKUs and undocumented children..."
GOOD or BAD, cannot be dictated by what was done. It is the end result. Yes, I opened 1000 schools, I done that.  ....What was the result?.  Doing something does not mean GOOD ultimately.


Example:  Quality breakfast....how was this program undertaken?


Purpose:
  good eating habits and civic consciousness about food.

Funding:

The free breakfast programme, he said will be handled the same way as the current Supplementary Food Programme (RMT) and prepared by the schools' respective canteens.

290 million ringgit will be used to fund this.

What meals?
:  (50 million) Milk and "other foods" What is the list?.....none?. 250 million goes to the actual "food" (unknown as well).

How long?:  190 days.
I am skeptical of such "general" planning. Could do better than give a chart of what kids eat in canteen/school today  VS  what are the food plans. Aside terminating canteen contracts.

Most of us are grown up in our kids days with
a) ice popsickles
b) bee hoon / noodle soup
c) fried rice
d) maybe some ice milo/soda drink
e) those crap sugar stuff that cost from 10 to 50 cents.

so...what is this program replacing?...
250 million isn't much to be honest for ALL schools.

We have 7773 primary schools today.
For 190 days, for 7773 schools there.... each gets an allocation of
$170 per day.

If there are total 170 primary students (standard 1-6) ....what kind of "Quality" breakfast can you get with $1 ?.
It's NOT a genius math, it's just there..... RM$170 per day, per primary school.
Ref:
https://www.nst.com.my/news/nation/2019/08/...od-says-maszlee

https://www.freemalaysiatoday.com/category/...eputy-minister/

http://myschoolchildren.com/list-of-all-pr...a/#.XhDPJ_x7laQ
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Based on malaysia standard since ruled by bn, doing something is GOOD, cause is already better than doing nothing.
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QUOTE(jenniferjen @ Jan 4 2020, 09:56 AM)
If you selectively only want to hear about kasut hitam or jawi issue, you wont be able to read all these la.

Try google mazlee with relevant things he had done, is all there. But people just prefer to bash on those sensational news on him.
It because of no control that the media just make sensational news.

How many time i caught media nowadays report differently in expression than the actual interview or press conference.
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Should not remove that fake news law
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QUOTE(KineticKill @ Jan 4 2020, 09:28 AM)
Hm. Media played a big role in hyping up the wrong things about him. I remember the first thing people say about the black shoes is how shoe sellers are going to survive with those unsold white shoes. Rather than proactively trying to solve the problem, they chose to smear his name right away. It’s downhill from there.
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That actually valid if u in seller's shoes pun intended. They still need to sell that shoes.

And that is problem with this edu minister. Its good he leap into action. But he never seem to sit down and think of the consequences no matter how small. Just like jawi, straight off making it compulsory and then back track to optional after backlash. Like even if u think jawi is just khat for artistic only, a lot of non will view it with suspicioan especially after the whole medan dakwah on borneo incident. And that's another thing, maszlee seem more interested in shoving Islam into things than issue that PH has promised to resolve like the long standing UEC. I don't like mandarin btw even though cina. But if u promise something, handle that one first than jumping into stupid ones.

This post has been edited by TrialGone: Jan 4 2020, 10:07 AM
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QUOTE(Heroicage @ Jan 4 2020, 09:58 AM)
"On other issues - free quality breakfast, opening up hotel swimming pools to students, doing away with streaming and exams, making education accessible to OKUs and undocumented children..."
GOOD or BAD, cannot be dictated by what was done. It is the end result. Yes, I opened 1000 schools, I done that.  ....What was the result?.  Doing something does not mean GOOD ultimately.


Example:  Quality breakfast....how was this program undertaken?


Purpose:
  good eating habits and civic consciousness about food.

Funding:

The free breakfast programme, he said will be handled the same way as the current Supplementary Food Programme (RMT) and prepared by the schools' respective canteens.

290 million ringgit will be used to fund this.

What meals?
:  (50 million) Milk and "other foods" What is the list?.....none?. 250 million goes to the actual "food" (unknown as well).

If there are total 170 primary students (standard 1-6) ....what kind of "Quality" breakfast can you get with $1 ?.
It's NOT a genius math, it's just there..... RM$170 per day, per primary school.
Ref:
https://www.nst.com.my/news/nation/2019/08/...od-says-maszlee

https://www.freemalaysiatoday.com/category/...eputy-minister/

http://myschoolchildren.com/list-of-all-pr...a/#.XhDPJ_x7laQ
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I thought it's for B40 kids and the ones who are left behind/tercicir so this will at least incentivise them to go to school and concentrate on the lesson instead of worrying about empty stomach

same reason for that new way of intake for MRSM/SBP too

more on the focus of giving opportunities for B40 kids so that when they grow up they won't be the rempit or drug addict you despise so much

the goal for character building is essential too as there's no point about that whole knowledge without appropriate personality and character

This post has been edited by hakimix: Jan 4 2020, 10:08 AM
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QUOTE(funnyTONE @ Jan 4 2020, 09:18 AM)
What I worry is the constant changeup in education which will affect the policies in schools and universities. Yet, people easily call for change each time a decision don't go their way.
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this...yup...cant imagine MOE change again meanwhile other ministry already stable and start moving for better

cant wait to the replacement...part of me hope the replacement is stupid person who have no balls and keep taichi everything


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QUOTE(Perfect.Stranger @ Jan 4 2020, 09:58 AM)
Chinese people don’t like Maszlee because he is more islamic than any EM..

Malay dont like Maszlee because his black shoes, simpang renggam tol issue.

Indian no issue with Maszlee.
Maszlee will still be EM if Thanos not in PH, but truth told, without Thanos, I dont think PH can win the GE.

Anyhow, we lost good EM, the Khat issue is small, but hatred from non malay towards Maszlee decision was on it was bigger than the issue..

Should sack the DEM that allow such propaganda comic..
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Him being Islamic vs him shoving Islam value on non is different thing. Do u like it if I say every students from now on must wear red and sit in circle cause feng shui? Nothing religion about it and simply artistic value and "luck" but I bet no one will like except fengshui nuts.

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QUOTE(Perfect.Stranger @ Jan 4 2020, 09:58 AM)
Chinese people don’t like Maszlee because he is more islamic than any EM..

Malay dont like Maszlee because his black shoes, simpang renggam tol issue.

Indian no issue with Maszlee.
Maszlee will still be EM if Thanos not in PH, but truth told, without Thanos, I dont think PH can win the GE.

Anyhow, we lost good EM, the Khat issue is small, but hatred from non malay towards Maszlee decision was on it was bigger than the issue..

Should sack the DEM that allow such propaganda comic..
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I've already predicted his downfall, but never expected thanos to snap him so fast.

The media loves to ridicule his black shoes nonsense.
Regarding the Khat and Jawi thing is all instructed by Thanos himself as it's a great tactic to distract the masses from bad economy.

Those politicians that wanna stick long will become a headless chicken, no real changes will happen.

For 20months I'd say he did a great job, but the rest of the major decisions like reverting to English to teach maths and science is not his decision to make alone.



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