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majorarmstrong
post Jul 28 2020, 08:59 AM

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QUOTE(GrumpyNooby @ Jul 28 2020, 08:54 AM)
This is unit trust fond fund not bond market like you should in FSM One.
Why would the price fluctuates real time for the whole day?
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I tak tahu that is why ask
I not monitor as I have my agent that does that for pmo
But this opus I do it myself
So learning
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post Jul 28 2020, 10:00 AM

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QUOTE(funboy555 @ Jul 28 2020, 09:18 AM)
Uncle, nowadays self service better. save your commission. Unless you need very intensive wealth advisors.
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Not so easy as I need people to tell me put money or withdraw money like how my agent tell me
So now I have to learn all this trick myself

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post Jul 28 2020, 11:07 AM

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QUOTE(ironman16 @ Jul 28 2020, 10:39 AM)
Easy ma uncle, u oso buy some bond fund from PMO. if anything happens when ur PMO agent tell u, just review oso OPUS.
If agent ask u buy, u buy sikit-sikit n OPUS punya buy banyak2 lo. 😁
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ok faham
uncle going to transfer 10k into Opus today
cause yesterday he ask me top up P BOND
i tak tahu buat apa top up
i top up 10k juga kat sini (Opus)

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post Jul 28 2020, 11:19 AM

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QUOTE(GrumpyNooby @ Jul 28 2020, 11:08 AM)
Not scare people cheat your money?
He asked you top up and you follow.
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banyak tahun sama dia la
i did not send money to him
i send money to PMO saja
so how to cheat?
provided PMO cheat uncle lo
i am not that educated and even last time 20 years ago i buy insurance also kena cheat
not sure u all heard a insurance company call Asia Life?
So every month i pay RM300 to the agent (direct to agent) for 11 years
during 20 years ago there is no such thing as checking your balance over internet
all is by "trust" la
of course got annual statement that i dont even bother to understand
so ended up kena cheat for 11 years
what happen is i pay agent RM300, dia masuk RM250
and i did not find out till my friend who is also with the same agent found out
my friend case lagi funny, 1 year bayar RM3000 satu kali
Agent Masuk RM200 1 bulan untuk dia and angkat itu RM3000 pergi rolling
i just can blame myself being stupid and not that educated
btw now the agent that cheated a lot of us owns a big company that sell "noodles"
lots of branch as well
now he no more in Insurance line

OPUS RM9999 here i come!
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post Jul 28 2020, 12:14 PM

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QUOTE(funboy555 @ Jul 28 2020, 11:23 AM)
That's why must not pay to agent account, should direct put in to the fund.
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uncle buka kedai service aircond last time
so u know how much education i receive la
if i tahu i wont be that stupid during that time lo


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post Jul 28 2020, 01:56 PM

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QUOTE(ironman16 @ Jul 28 2020, 01:18 PM)
Fuyoo, byk.
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agent call panggil top up P BOND
so i also top up here OPUS lo
i never really ask him the question why need to top up my P BOND
i just top up saja

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post Jul 28 2020, 02:27 PM

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QUOTE(ironman16 @ Jul 28 2020, 02:09 PM)
Bullet uncle mmg banyak.
Guna agen itu sepenuhnya bcoz sudah bayar.
Uncle can compare performance for both platforms which one suit u 👍
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Tak banyak bullet la
I wish I banyak
Just enough to live comfortably provided myself and my wife don't fall into serious illness

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post Jul 29 2020, 09:32 AM

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Inside the app where do you see the historical NAV?
Or we should use FSM to check?
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post Jul 29 2020, 09:37 AM

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QUOTE(GrumpyNooby @ Jul 29 2020, 09:35 AM)
Opus got app?  hmm.gif
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I mean their Web application
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post Jul 29 2020, 10:38 AM

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question again:

you see yesterday i buy that time before 4PM it was 1.0885 for RM9999
but today when the RM9999 reflected it say i bought it at 1.0893
so we wont know what is the NAV till the price is reflected the next day

this is not like stock market, you see the price u like u buy and that is your price, but for UT there is always a delay of 1 day specifically for OPUS

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QUOTE(funboy555 @ Jul 29 2020, 10:46 AM)
To be simple, most or almost all UT funds are using forward pricing.

The concept is because your money that booked today for example, will not participate in the pool of money of existing investors' investment that generating today's return. Hence you should not be taking yesterday price to buy in units.

I hope this is simple explanation that Uncle can understand better. Why uncle invest so long in PMO funds with agents, but he never teach you and guide you all these?
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i actually never ask all this question until recent MCO i start to learn how to invest myself
bought a new laptop with touch screen
then slowly learn all this
so now i learn what is NAV and how NAV works

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post Jul 29 2020, 11:59 AM

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QUOTE(funboy555 @ Jul 28 2020, 10:10 AM)
Uncle, fixed income fund no need to put money out money so often one. But you can always follow anikitan.

Depends on uncle's risk appetite lor. and by the way, sometimes agent asks you in out in out because got commission to earn ya.
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i will wait for anikitan to make a buy call then i ikut saja la
for now i think i should just leave the money inside dont care dont look till 3 months baru pergi tengok

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QUOTE(tan_aniki @ Jul 29 2020, 12:14 PM)
once drop just redeem and left 1k units inside, no need wait for my call
i redeem some today as need some cash over the weekend else fri is holiday
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does it mean today is 1.0893 then tomorrow (Thu) jadi 1.0890 then we jual semua
Friday tutup
Monday buka balik become 1.0880 (turun lagi) we dont buy back
Tuesday jalan become 1.0800 we dont buy back
Wed jalan become 1.0810 we buy back all that we sold
i guess this is what you mean
once down 1 point we jual semua
let uncle cuba this concept

**must left 1k minimum inside

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QUOTE(tan_aniki @ Jul 29 2020, 03:56 PM)
yes something like that but we sell based on 1.088, then if up again we buy back around 1.081
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I will report what I do to the forum here so you all can guide uncle cari makan

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post Jul 29 2020, 07:39 PM

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I see inside opus touch got one button label as wholesale fund
Why we cannot buy?
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post Jul 29 2020, 09:43 PM

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QUOTE(tan_aniki @ Jul 29 2020, 08:05 PM)
those are not unit trust
https://www.opusasset.com/products/

Unit Trust FundWholesale FundDiscretionary Mandate
TypePooled FundPooled FundCustomized Account
AvailabilityRetailSophisticated InvestorIndividual, Corporate & Institutions
Minimum InvestmentRM 1,000RM 50,000RM 2,000,000
ReportingMonthly StatementsMonthly StatementsCustomized

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Thanks for all the info
i am not qualified and i learn something new today smile.gif
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post Jul 30 2020, 09:27 AM

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QUOTE(tan_aniki @ Jul 30 2020, 09:20 AM)
there is no relation with performance over distribution

https://www.opusasset.com/products/unit-tru...fund/#tab-price

20/5 = RM1.0047
23/6 = RM1.0068
increased RM0.0021 and distribute RM0.0035

24/6 = RM1.0034
27/7 = RM1.0058
increased RM0.0024 and distribute RM0.0005
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Not bad ma
Always got income distribution
So if IPF vs MPF both out 1k which one will perform better?

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post Jul 30 2020, 09:49 AM

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When update nav can we do this?
1.0899 +0.0006
Boleh tahu naik berapa or turun berapa
Suggestion saja

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post Jul 31 2020, 12:44 AM

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QUOTE(tan_aniki @ Jan 3 2020, 10:08 PM)

IPF = RM1.0912 ↑
MPF = RM1.0054 ↔
SIPF = RM1.0459 ↑
SSTLRAF = RM1.0044 ↑
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How come at night also got update? I thought nav update the next morning after 9am?
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QUOTE(tan_aniki @ Jul 30 2020, 09:54 AM)
again, the increase over a day is not relevant to the NAV that u bought at

NAV updated for today
expect another NAV on 31/7 as well
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Still tak faham Friday Market closed also Ada nav?

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