Horus,SS2

Date : 21st, 22nd July
Time : 10.30 am
Contact :0166327116 (lim)
Msn : limyoonghong@hotmail.com

Prizes :
Champion : RM 2,000.00
Runner-Up : RM 1,000.00
2nd Runner-Up : RM 600.00
4th : RM 300.00


We will start using the -xl mode for the tornament..

Rules :

Game Version: v6.43b

. Competition Method: 5 vs. 5
. Tournament Structure: Single Elimination
. Match Length: Until a winner is decided
. Match Winner: The player who completely destroys the opponent's Ancient or if the opponent surrenders.

. Coin Toss

The match will begin with a coin toss and winner of the coin toss will get to choose:
(a) Sentinel/Scourge side of the map or
(b) the first hero selection from drafting

. Game Mode: Extended League Mode. (-Ap mode will be typed in-game)

1. Both teams will be allowed to take out up to 3 heroes from the pool of heroes before drafting starts. This will work based on a 1-1-1-1-1-1 format. Teams can choose to stop taking out heroes before the maximum 3 heroes limit and their turn to take out the heroes will be void.

1. Team one will take out / skip the chance : 1 hero
2. Team two will take out / skip the chance : 1 hero
3. Team one will take out / skip the chance : 1 hero
4. Team two will take out / skip the chance : 1 hero
5. Team one will take out / skip the chance : 1 hero
6. Team two will take out / skip the chance : 1 hero

A maximum of (but may not up to) 6 heroes can be taken out before the drafting session happens. After the taking out draft finishes , teams will proceed to pick the heroes for the game.

2. Picking heroes: 1-2-2-2-2-1

1. Team one will pick: 1 hero
2. Team two will pick: 2 heroes
3. Team one will pick: 2 heroes
4. Team two will pick: 2 heroes
5. Team one will pick: 2 heroes
6. Team two will pick: 1 hero

. Game Play

1. Sharing: The sharing of wards, consumables, and gems is allowed. The following items are the only allowable items which may not be sold if transferred:

o Sentry Wards
o Observer Wards
o Lesser Clarity Potion
o Ancient Tango of Essifation
o Flask of Sapphire Water
o Gem of True Sight
o Scroll of Town Portal
o Aegis of the Immortal
o Cheese

2. Item Limitations :

. Each team may only have two Mekansm
. Each team may only have two Necronomicon
. Each team may only have one Refresher Orb
. Each team may only have one Arcane Ring
. Each team may only have in total either :

(a) Two Eul's Scepter of Divinity OR
(b) two Guinsoo's Scythe of Vyse OR
(C) one Eul's Scepter of Divinity and one Guinsoo's Scythe of Vyse

3. Backdooring in games is allowed.


. Abuses & Exploitation:

1. Trees Trapping (Disqualification):

Trapping enemies in trees intentionally is not allowed.

2. Pooling (Warning or Game Loss):

No pooling of any sort is allowed. This means that items bought with a player's own money cannot at any time be carried by any of his teammates. Items bought with the player's own money can only be carried or sold by him.
This rule only applies to players on the same team. Players can pick up items dropped by their opponents.
Sharing of allowable items are allowed to be transferred but not sold.

3. Pause Abuse (Warning or Game Loss):

During hero selection. From the point after hero selection process is completed, pausing without any valid reason is disallowed.

4. Creep Blocking (Disqualification):

Creep blocking is not allowed but creep slowing is allowed. Blocking here refers to the prolonged blocking of creeps to disrupt their usual path. (ie: Using Chen's creeps to block the entire entrance of the base for a long time.)

5. Bugs Exploitation (Warning , Game Loss or Disqualification):

No Exploitation of any known old or new bug discovered during play. Explanations like "exploiting/activating the bug unknowingly", "we had no idea this bug existed" or similar excuses will not be entertained. Participants/Teams are expected to know what these are.

Examples of Bugs:
Earthshaker using Fissure to target out of the edge of the map. Results in a fatal error in some instances. Any players found doing this will be disqualified.

Black King Bar cannot be shifted or dropped. Any players found doing this will be disqualified.

6. No control sharing (Disqualification):

Strictly no control sharing. Only when there is one more or team mates disconnects, then you can
share the control of that player(s)' hero. However, you cannot take, pass or sell that hero's item(s).


. Penalties Awarded:

Warning : After warning is given games goes on. If three warnings are accumulated then the team will be ejected from the tournament upon receiving the third warning.

Game Loss: Game loss given to a team mean the team loses the current game no matter what is the result of that game. A win would be awarded to opponent instead.

Disqualifications: A team disqualified will be ejected from the tournament. They will not be able to continue further in the current event.

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Added on July 16, 2007, 1:17 pmplz before 10:30am


Match Day 1

1st Round
Cybertime win WX-Ecity
Bz 1 win D-Day

2nd Round
CA win Team team
RC win Inc2
Wiz win Rave 1
Auto-Dop win C
LK win Raise of FNE
Eul.Fury win Hexagon
Bz 1 win INC 3
Attp win tech
Clutch Gamer win Inc 1
1G win Lk2
Freak.INF win BTP
Cybertime win LC
ST win MMORPG
Bz 2 win Sux
Sino.MNG win Busuk
GV win Underdog

Round 3 (best of 16)
CA win Rc
wiz win Auto-Dop
Lk win Eul.Fury
Bz 1 win Attp
Clutch gamer win 1G
Cybertime win Freak.inF
sT win Bz 2
Sino-MnG win Gv

Quarter Final
CA win Wiz
Bz 1 win Lk
Cybertime win CG
sT win Sino-MnG

Semifinal
Blitzone-1 win CA
Cybertime win sT

Final
Cybertime win Blitzone 1


SMM Selangor Winners :

Champion : Cybertime
1st Runner-up : Blitzone-1
2nd Runner-up : sT
3rd Runner-up : CA

Replays :

SMM Selangor First Round
SMM Selangor Second Round
SMM Selangor Quarterfinals
SMM Selangor SemiFinal
SMM Selangor Final and 3rd-4th placing

This post has been edited by MyGaming-Lim: Jul 22 2007, 04:40 PM

ops..
after post only saw it at horus ss2
sry

This post has been edited by baowen: Jul 16 2007, 02:52 PM

Got how many team register d arh? issit possible to know now?

horus, old school, long time dn go liao, whoohoo

Which team will be going there? Since that 2 day i'll be visiting my ex gf around ss2, i maybe come see see the match lolz

This post has been edited by Soul-X: Jul 17 2007, 03:55 AM

Not sure myself wat team is joining.. as i know, MnG n DOP is confirm going lar! lol..

gogo mng and dop qualify! gl gl

ThX~ but if we realli meet DOP in the early stage.. only 1 of us can qualify!! Hope they sek cho put us far apart ..



This post has been edited by Sohaiz: Jul 17 2007, 01:44 PM

straight put your two team at final la.. ok mou ?

so scared la selangor. sure a lot of good teams entering. go mlk safer. hehehahahaeha.

if everyone think like tis .. smm mlk goin to be a competitive one

just pray u dont meet sakura and icemen team in melaka lolx

i just dont want to meet irlx team. i heard no pro is god.

Hope we can have more team so this will be a great event hehe

I guess many teams will be joining

Anyway hope u all have fun and good luck on the competition

Anybody who wanna join can also send their

team name, players name, ic numbers, hp number and please state down who is the leader
The money can be paid on this sat by 10.30.

You can call me at 017-2505523 and mail ur detail to wongkokwei1@hotmail.com .Aaron

haha no pro is god .. lolx hustler u shud tell no pro about tis ~ let him excited til whole nite canot slp well !!

lol btw IRX disbanded so long de

this saturday, all team plz come on 10.30am

well.....good luck to all participants

For those who haven pay for the tournament pls come before 10.30am, sat.
So we can arrange your team asap and to ensure ur participation to be certain.

Thank you for cooperation.

Gud Larks Hef Farn~!!!!

is spectator allow to go in and watch in horus?

"If there were no God, it would have been necessary to invent him."

Yeap spectators are allowed to go in and watch. But to all due respect dont touch players seat k or go too near them thanks.

Steady Laaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Where is the schedule wor??No yet come out geh...??

DAI LOU!!! DANG MM DOU JOR!! SCHEDULE SCHEDULE!!!!

Results will be updated live at the first post. Stay tuned.

Due to capacity limitations inside the cyber cafe, we have disallowed spectators to watch the matches live. Sorry for any inconvenience caused.

This post has been edited by MyGaming-Lim: Jul 21 2007, 01:25 PM

huh... any updates? !!


cybertime??
cybertime which team??
so many cybertime??

wah, got a clan named Team Team = T_T = SK. so geng.

CT sure alot la lol...i think its CT2=overmind's team

But T_T lost to CA 1st round edy HAhah

For the full result of SMM selangor state plz refer to page one...

Round 3 (best 16)

CA win Rc
Wiz win Auto-Dop
Lk win Eul.Fury
Bz 1 win Attp
Clutch gamer win 1G
Cybertime win Freak.inF
sT win Bz 2
Sino-MnG win Gv

This post has been edited by MyGaming-Lim: Jul 21 2007, 07:59 PM

ya cybertime is overmind's team

so few teams joined?

i think its more than 34 teams

But T_T lost to CA 1st round edy HAhah

sad case, teamate din wanna ban bb, then sf couldnt carry the team, but watch the Dop-Wiz match, damn 'chi kik'... pro starscream(sf)

Tomorrow Quarter Final match

CA vs Wiz
Lk vs Bz 1
Cybertime vs CG
Sino-MnG vs sT

This post has been edited by MyGaming-Lim: Jul 22 2007, 10:18 AM

sino dop???

lol dop change sponsorship edi?? sT = say thanks?

btw wiz is kepong wizz?

must be sum spelling error becoz top there said Dop lose to Wiz already

This post has been edited by hustler: Jul 21 2007, 08:26 PM

sino-mng lol

t_T nice name but lost edi.

FYI yes they are kepong wizz

DOP VS WIZZ that game last for 2 hours ... very interesting game

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Added on July 21, 2007, 10:08 pmDOP VS WIZZ that game last for 2 hours ... very interesting game

This post has been edited by justloO: Jul 21 2007, 10:08 PM

Wondering why this Selangor SMM didn't seed away Wiz and Dop?
I thought last time every SMM state qualifying Ian_Mok will do seeding?

how about sT the recent ICCG winner ?

wow I FInaly Meet my LEader MnG.Hunterz-sN- kekee

O.o Sino + Dop lolx. Long live DOP

NicR finally meet his leader MnG.Soxxxx-sN- U know what.

haha....yaya i know that.....MnG.NicR-sN- KEEKE

T_T aka team team is oversea champion in MYM pride #5. I hate copier!

Quarter Final result

CA win Wiz
Bz 1 win Lk
Cybertime win CG
sT win Sino-MnG

This post has been edited by MyGaming-Lim: Jul 22 2007, 12:19 PM

CA is what team?

CA stand for crazy army

Semi Finals on going , replays and results are uploaded at first post as they are played.

Semi Final result
Blitzone 1 win CA
Cybertime win sT

Final(3.00pm)
Blitzone 1 vs Cybertime

This post has been edited by MyGaming-Lim: Jul 22 2007, 02:09 PM

formally from which team? are they new team?

the team is active in "bs" i think

new la...all bs kaki also

SMM Selangor Winners :

Champion : Cybertime
1st Runner-up : Blitzone-1
2nd Runner-up : sT
3rd Runner-up : CA

Replays can be found at the first post

my trophy the round thing break edi!! =.=

bz-1 include nataku them ?

i would like to say a thing or two about the competition. i am not a contestant of the competition but just a mere spectator. so forgive me if i insulted anyone somehow.

firstly, while drafting a match, there is of course alot of ppl around. i mean its all right to have ppl there but seriously is it OKAY for other ppl to help draft the hero? come on. ppl are having a competition here. its definitely unfair for their opponent. others should have no say but just look at them draft instead of helping them out. im sure some would say, so what if they have ppl helping them, they are the ones that are playing. so pls let me say that those helping the team draft might be ppl with experience and therefore they can guide them somehow if u know what i mean. A competition is a competition. and isnt SMM is quite a big comp? come on. BE PROFESSIONAL.

i find these type of competitions are really organized inefficiently. marshalls are not really doing a great job. i know that most contestants are friends with the marshalls but come on, you know marshalls should be fair. they should not offer any opinions while they are in game or actually on that day itself. they are the MARSHALL for god sake.

ppl also should not be allowed to enter the place itself unless allowed by the players. others are as usual noisy as they keep talking bhind but friends understand that the contestants need their space and silence. others should also b able to understand. why the hell are you making so much noise? do you like it when you are the one sitting there and there is like a fly buzzing at your ear when you are playing? jeez. show them some respect and stfu.

i shall say again im sorry if i offended anyone but this is one of my opinions only as a Spectator.

ov3rmind: same here, Game threw away the round thing.

damn sad kena tapao by u

This post has been edited by syNzoR: Jul 22 2007, 06:31 PM

=.=" GG guys. 3 Cybertime team in National Grand Final. If they 3 really sapu all the prize, really GG

I think the marshalls did a good job.

I also find nothing wrong with spectators during the game or during the drafting. Playing in a closed enviroment and being forced to wait outside while other teams played = not a good way to promote competitive dota in Malaysia.

Anyways, my team (mostly me) were exceptionally noisy during our game with Sino. This is just how we usually play and relieve stress. No offence meant, and I hope none were taken. Sorry guys.

This post has been edited by ChwanRen: Jul 22 2007, 07:30 PM

if u really think got problem can give a call to me or left ur phone number to me..
i will explain every to u, so can meet and yam cha talk about this question..THANK

This post has been edited by MyGaming-Lim: Jul 22 2007, 07:50 PM

that is not necessary. as i said before, i am no contestant of yours. just a mere spectator watching.

like i said, it is all right to let ppl enter and watch but its obvious you must respect the players and understand you need to stfu ya know.

also, i would like to know if there is any time limit in drafting heroes?

its obvious the marshalls did a great job if they were your friend. all i said is they are inefficient in a way as in they shouldnt allow others to help a team draft heroes. it is very not professional of them. this is a competition. more to say, its SMM. isn't it a big one? shouldn't ppl be more professional? this is as in to set standards for other minor competitions to look up to as guidelines. from that point, i would say this SMM competition is not really organized.



well i am talking about the spectators. not the contestants. its obviously all right for you to make noise during your match. its a basic thing to communicate with your teammates isn't it?

Anonymous1234 Today, 06:00 PM
Post #61
Group: Junior Member
Posts: 0
Joined: Today, 05:09 PM

U just join member today and wanna @#$% the tournament.What u wan to do?Are u hate marshal/SMM/your is lose on this tournament.

The marshal is friendly and good.Nice

wat can i said is ..if u "saw" tat "situation" then pls directly complaint to GM.

oh come on lol. are u kidding me. the marshall are the contestant's friend. and im not at all related to at the marshall. im just a spectator!! im obviously la the contestant's friend as well. if not i wont be there. btw, i would like to keep my identity anonymous as to not destroy my image lol. ppl will hate me for saying these words. saying ppl like you

i shall again assure u 100% that im no contestant of the smm competition. am just a spectator of the competition all right. these are my views. and i shall stick to that. if you ain't happy then give me your reasons. instead of throwing me those type of comments "you must be one of the losers of the tourney" or something. something valid to tell me that no such thing ever happened? hmmm?

This post has been edited by Anonymous1234: Jul 22 2007, 09:30 PM

Dear friend ... as u mentioned u dun wanna destroy ur image cause ppl will hate u for saying those words ... but if u wanna start any comment dun u think u should also knoe tat u will get others feedback as well ?(I dun like the word flaming ) ?? If u mind so much of ur fame .... then why u started all these .... what u want from this forum ??? As mentioned by our Dai kor Lim ... anything u can call him n talk to him right ??? I do respect u ....hope u respect others too



This post has been edited by ChoboNope: Jul 22 2007, 09:56 PM

I remember that last time there is a given timeline for the drafting session, but as you said you are not the contestant then I don't think your complain will be entertain by the marshals since you are not involved. Maybe if you think that your friend is unhappy with the organizer, then you can ask him to lodge a complain to the organizer which is MyGaming-Lim.

I would like to point out that its useless for you to complain about it if you are unhappy, its a different story if the contestant are unhappy since they are the one who are paying for the tournament itself so they have every single right to voice out their dissatisfaction.

It's just a small matter only la. Anonymous1234 is just trying to point out the problems only and if really got such problems then fix it lo and also can improve the competition ma. That's the positive way lo IMHO. If u guys dont like then dont bother it lo, i think he also doesnt mind gua lol. No offence to everyone here lo.

his just giving his opinion or advice ma juz take it as advice oni ma...his just hoping mayb u guys will do something...advice je chillex

Ov3rmind did very very well .. I saw that

overmind is a feeder,he just feed and die ! ><"

For Mr Anonymous:

We always appreciate comments from others. If u really intend to complain u should send an official complain letter to SMM company and not just to mention for the sake of fun here.

For ur first point: Are you really sure they are really other people that help them to draft or are they from their team? We do have a thing call reserve aka substitute or it might be their team mates from their group since some teams tend to have more members since their sponsor willing to sponsor more people! Would u say that we shouldn't even let them discuss with their teammates? Do you have any wonderful opinions to help us since you would like to comment bout this matter. We do hope you have since any comment without a suggestion is consider as flaming if that is what ur purpose is.

For ur second point: There is a thing call figure of speech. We dont offer opinion towards the teams! We might discuss between marshal but we definitely dont offer opinion. If any people really do see a marshal do so u can report to the Chief Marshal and the CM will take an action towards that particular marshal. "Marshal might offer or just a figure of speech say "Just take KOTL or meepo" but that is just a figure of speech because sometimes the teams tend to pick too long because they still haven get accustomed to the new rules yet so we were trying to be understanding and try not to force them too much to enable the team to perform better so they wont have too much of regrets when they finish their game.

For ur third point: I would really doubt if you were at the scene itself. We have already done our best to make the environment for the players to have a good gaming environment because due 2 a huge numbers of spectators and teams we have to ask for the spectators to watch far away from the gaming place. Especially on Sunday we provide a place for spectators to watch the game on other pc. And most of the time the people who make the most noise is the players themselves and we do give them warning for that. Sorry dudes no offence for teams I give warning 2 cause it's my job, hope u guys wont be offended .
If u mean for the other customer of the CC that is non spectator who speak loudly when they when in the CC, we really cant do anything bout it. The CC is kindly enough to sponsor us a place to held the event so we definately can be so rude as to chase away their customer or can we????

If you are really not satisfied with the situation you can always send in an official letter to SMM company and if you really just wish for us to improve and not just flame about it then we would appreciate that you could give us some wonderful suggestion rather than just complain. It's always easy for people to complain when their not thinking in other people's shoe but to complain and to give us a suggestion and ideas to improve that would benefit all and we would regard you as a reputable person.

I would deeply apologize if I hurt anyone's feeling.

This post has been edited by MyGaming-Aaron: Jul 23 2007, 01:05 AM

u guys saw DOP Wizz replay?
even if wiz din break the throne, Dop still lose. BB= Hex TS= Hex Pugna= Oblivion = DQ haha

aha YEE PING~

swt swt flame again

Maybe pugna wanna make refresher Orb, who knows lolx.
Or maybe if pugna got hex edy, 1 of the teammate will sell away his hex.

nope im pretty sure. there is around 8 - 10 person standing there. maybe one or two might be their reserve but i definitely know the others are their friends, ex-teammate or something. i do not want to mention any team names or such. so im keeping this as it is. im not flaming. im just trying to voice out my opinions to those who took part in organizing and keep the competition going on.

no no. its definitely during the match, a marshall said "keep this going, your match only have around 20mins left. you will definitely win". its something like this la. i dont want to mention team names and marshall too.

most of the spectators watching are the contestant themselves. not the other customers. as i remember, the cafe sponsor the bottom floor of their cc for the competition. im just standing the contestants' shoes to say that it is unfair and the voice of others might be really annoying during the climax of the match.

as i told in my few posts before, im just a mere spectator. these are a few of my opinions. i do not want to trouble others or myself to send official letters or make complains on that day itself. ppl might just think "wtf is wrong with this guy. so ke-poh! he is not even a contestant!". im not so stupid to put myself at such position and create troubles for myself. im sure you guys can overcome these little problems urself. i do not need to write a long long post to tell you what you can do about it. its quite simple actually. you should know better. afterall, you guys are the ones making this competition happen .

am sorry if i offended anyone. really. but hey, overall, you guys did make this happen and kudos to all those who did it.

all well ends well. goodjob to marshalls and all the qualifieds!

hey Anonymous1234, grow up and stfu, u said urself u are jus a spectator, and if the teams never complain why should u? u type too much rubbish, till i cant find which page is the page to download... well, too much la u... talk so much , i think u were a losing team there who cant get over the fact tht u lost tht day.. ( sore loser wei) bye and ya, bye... =)

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Added on July 23, 2007, 3:59 amopps pugna got an euls hahah
my mistake to type he got oblivion... ( see replay and observed) tht makes it 3 hexes right?

This post has been edited by y33p1n9: Jul 23 2007, 03:59 AM

First of all the point u mention would definitely be on Sat. On that day itself there would be 28 teams participating. There would be like 168 people just for the team members only and if we add together with the spectators. There would be roughly about 200-250 people. I would like to ask, on that day if we were to draft would it be strange if some members from other team to stand near them??? You should have understand of all people if you were there. If friends were to stand nearby them what do you think we should do??? Pls do enlighten me.

marshall said "keep this going, your match only have around 20mins left. you will definitely win". its something like this la.

Are u really sure this is the exact phrase??? If I'm not mistaken this would be from the match between Wiz VS DOP. If u are not sure then u shouldn't at all say it because this is an extremely serious matter that will tarnish the name of a marshal. How can you just put a point and then say something like this la do you think it is fair if some1 accused u of doing something that u did not and just say something like this la or I think lebih kurang lo!!!
For your information the exact phrase would be " The game only left 20 min" this is because for the state qualifier we have a time limit for each game and the max time would be 2 hours, that would be 120 mins. It is the duty of the marshal in charge of that particular game to inform the players of the time issues.

I really cant recall the situation where u say the spectators where being noisy. Most of the time the noise do come from the participants themselves. We did give them warning if they are being 2 noisy. If you were to stand in the contestants shoe then you should understand that some of them cant restrain themselves when they manage to rax a barrack or run away with red life or get kill, they will tend to shout out but we will give them a friendly reminder not to and we will give them a warning if the were to speak foul language. So if you were there u should have known that the noise is actually came from the participants that were playing the game but we cant blame them lol

I'm curious u can write so long to complain about the situation and wont understand the situation of the organizer but u wont be willing to write out or give some friendly suggestion to them or be friendly enough to write to the organizer and tell them about this matter. If you really have a good way to overcome the matter why cant u share with all of the people reading this thread? Once you have post something up you should be responsible for what you have said and since we were not good enough as you have hinted we would like to hear what good suggestion from you and we are also willing to pay for you to become our marshal or adviser if you are able to handle the situation just like that day and run a perfect environment for the competitors.

If not and you would like to just flame then we cant do anything about it. If you really wanna continue and keep on saying that you were a mere spectator then there is a chinese saying for it that I really wouldn't like to say it.

Pls do not just post and then just say I'm just a mere spectator and then frame others and flame about the situation. It would really hurt the dignity of the people organizing the event and if you cont to do so might also lead to major issues that would make the organizer to stop holding this kind of event if that is ur intention then I would be speechless.
Pls takeup the offer if ur a capable person and dont be shy bout it and give Lim a call. He would always appreciate a fine helping person.

I'm sorry if I hurt any1 by posting this thread because I would hope that all competitors and spectators would understand our situation.

This post has been edited by MyGaming-Aaron: Jul 23 2007, 04:55 AM

lol, well, is not easy as u tot to run and handle the competition smoothly all day long..if u wanna say something out, please, do understand the whole situation properly lo, anonymous.

congrats overmind, anyway, k3v is in overmind's team ?

er..where is the wiz>dop replays? its in the 1st round or 2nd round replay packet?
rapidshare very sein.......hv to wait after dl some other file

yeap, should have let the titanz site host it =D, no nid wait n fast kakaka

Game Version: v6.43b

. Competition Method: 5 vs. 5
. Tournament Structure: Single Elimination
. Match Length: Until a winner is decided
. Match Winner: The player who completely destroys the opponent's Ancient or if the opponent surrenders.

u got 20mins left BRAVO

we were informed like 100mins into the game

anonymous, since that u duwan to mentioned who and which team do such thing....then dun nid post here again lo.......handle a competition not easy as u think.....if easier then every cybercafe also held a competition dy lo....how about u pm lim or aaron tell them abt the team and which marshal do such things...maybe they can explain to u....
well....just my opinion.....>.<

I guess we should have a given timeline of 2 hours if the game could not be finish and how the game would be decided if the timeline reaches. (ie: Points? Barracks? Hero Kills and so on)

From the rules given in lowyat.net, there is no such rule stating that 2 hours the game will be over. So, it's possible to let the participants know about this rule before the game starts. Some games could be draggy.

Drafting Heroes Timeline Rule. As mention from Anonymous1234, this rule should be enforced. (Ie: 30 seconds per hero)

Maybe you guys could have let 2 spectators to spectate the team they came cheering for. So its 2 spectators per team.

I guess thats about it.

yea, what actually happened to the "2spectators per team" rule? the only time i saw it was enforced was during KL's SMM. maybe it was enforced elsewhere, but from what i saw, i was shoo-ed away nicely by the marshall, and when i came back from a smoke, the place i was standing previously was crowded again with spectators keep babbling on what is happening in the contestants game. which could be distracting.

Yea it's tough for marshall to control the crowd and stuffs.... maybe a stricter policy should be implemented.

Another thing, drafting duration. -xl is new to alot of people, but it's not a valid reason for super long drafting time. maybe longer duration can be allocated for contestants to draft. say, 1minutes per pick, 30secs per ban?
if this the case, the longest time for drafting takes only about 15minutes, instead of letting it drag on the reason of new -xl mode.

And i agree that drafting should be done at a secluded area away from the crowd. as a contestant, i don't really need the opinions from random people... it's really not worth it to ruin the drafting lineup because of a mistake of listening to the crowd...

Anyway, Rome wasn't built in one day. So, take the time and improve the quality of Malaysia's gaming scene a step at a time!

Good luck!

kev is not in team cybertime.... he still is titanz lol
Anonymous1234 are u saying others people help thier team draft?
did the team force them help? did the people force them draft that?
no rite? so u better stfu
maybe u lose cause when your enemy drafting got people give some idea to them but the people is never force them to pick hero....

LOL HIPHOP HOU YEAH!! MMO MANAGER!! hhaha

During the drafting period, if the teams really need help for draft, its better if they just dont play the competition? Why don't you just draft everyone's hero including the opponents then only play? Are you in such a desperate position to need help from others?

I would like to also comment about the drafting timings. You should just form a rule to limit time during drafting period and definitely without others help(it is unfair!).

im sorry if i ever offended anyone right here. but if that is what i remembered. then it is. for what the marshall said, yes it is like this. thus, i did not mention any names. but i did remember accurately, it was like this. ok?

im not flaming or anything ya know. im just voicing out my opinions. if you think there aren't noisy. fine keep it as it is. im just merely telling you my opinions. not flaming anyone ya know. i aint a contestant of the competition, so i did not lose any matches. i really remember accurately other ppl were helping a team to draft. and they definitely took around 15 minutes to draft on their turn. random ppl might be standing around there. but hey, i heard what they said and it stays that way. if you think its all right for other ppl to help. keep it that way. okay? im just saying that its unfair for any opponents if they had extra help from ppl with more experience. isn't this a competition after all?

i do not want to keep this going because everyone is like "oh god this fella must be a sore loser. why is he so ke-poh about what the others are doing? they like-lah!"

i stand on my words. i believe what i heard and what i saw. i do not want to repeat them all over again.

if you really want to know how to overcome those just simply, i quote revivar.

also, stop saying that i did not say you guys did badly ya know. im just Saying that some things should be improved. if its so hard to improve these little things then fine. keep it the way it is aight? im sorry that i mention your LITTLE FAULTS. Am really sorry. So, i leave it as it is. after all, i did say you guys did a good job overall.

i quote myself.

So, i should say, you marshalls already know everything and do not need any others to voice out their own opinions hmm? im not trying to be sarcastic. i was saying this in a good manner until everyone started. so i apologize deeply.

PS: to those who thinks that getting others help during a competition is all right. im just saying. i respect you

This post has been edited by Anonymous1234: Jul 23 2007, 07:09 PM

I really wanna thank you guys on giving out great opinions. Thanks guys.
When the game reaches the time line, the game will be determine by the CM himself according to his experience. Points wont be taken much into consideration, it will mostly based on the barracks, hero kill, item gained by the whole team and so on.
Drafting time line is still an issue here because there are still a lot of teams are still not used to the short time line yet but we will try to enforce as much as possible but sometimes due to some unknown reason there will always be problem occur. We will do our best to improve the situation.
We do let spectators and team members to watch their team played but due to situation where there is 2 many people at that time we are forced to stop the spectators to do so >.< normally on Sunday it's much more easy for spectators to watch their team play.

We are trying our best to enforce a stricter policy but there are always people who are easily offended by it. So sometimes we are forced to do some drastic measure so we hope you guys understand >.<

Erm ur idea of drafting in a secluded area is good but sometimes there isn't any >.<
In your opinion where would be the best place for a team to be draft?? Open to all to give suggestion.

Thanks guys for your constructive ideas.