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 My Dad got Scammed in Shoppee, but I cant tell him, Not yet. Not until I can get the refund.

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post Dec 14 2019, 09:52 PM

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Shopee is like a semi legal blackmarket where you can get pirated goods, steroids etc. Guess the coppers dont mind .
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post Dec 14 2019, 09:55 PM

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QUOTE(KappAmir @ Dec 14 2019, 02:57 AM)
I said thanks to my dad and put on a happy and grateful face, but I'm just so pissed off at what had happened. I wanna tell him the truth, but before that, I wanna try to mitigate the damages first. 
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You need to inform him about the issue.

Don't pretend there's no problem -- because he has an account and can do it again.

So whatever the issue is, communicate and inform. With information, the same issue will not be repeated.
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post Dec 14 2019, 10:00 PM

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There are so many immitation goods and smartphone in Laz as well. They should have a big red 'report' button.

The word OEM and 'imported' should be banned or immediately trigger a review

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post Dec 14 2019, 10:06 PM

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Most likely Shopee will honor your refund.

After all, the seller has already deceived your dad by mentioning "100% original" which is not and you have the conversation to keep.

Screenshot whatever evidence you need to keep in case.
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post Dec 14 2019, 10:08 PM

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Well. Just tell him the truth after getting refund. Scammers everywhere
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post Dec 14 2019, 10:16 PM

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QUOTE(KappAmir @ Dec 14 2019, 02:57 AM)
I love my dad. I really do. But he is pretty naive when it comes to the online environment.
Just this Tuesday, my dad bought me an "Adobe CC 2019 Full Set" through Shoppee as a surprise for me. I just finished building my very own PC, and my dad just wanted do something nice for me. He says its ORGINAL and got a pretty good deal (almost too good).

At first, I thought that was awesome, but then I thought to myself, ORIGINAL Adobe software for that amount is too good to be true. I asked my dad where he bought it from, and he showed me the seller's page. Damn misleading lah this seller. The picture says "Original 100%" and "100% Not A Crack". This is NOT ORIGINAL. Its freaking PIRATED. I did a quick Google search and found a more UPDATED version of the Seller's 'product' for free online. I said thanks to my dad and put on a happy and grateful face, but I'm just so pissed off at what had happened. I wanna tell him the truth, but before that, I wanna try to mitigate the damages first. 

I contacted the Seller through my dad's Shoppee account. Luckily, my dad has not pressed "Order Received" yet, so I can still apply for a Refund. I messaged the Seller, saying that there was a mistake and that I just wanted a refund. Turns out, I cant even download the damn file. The Seller asks me if I needed any help with the installation, to which I said no, I cant even download the file and again insisted on my refund. The Seller has not responded to me since. Even after several messages. I told him that I know that he is selling PIRATED Software, and if he refuses to refund my (Dad's) purchase, I will report him to Shoppee. I dont even care about the money to be honest, but I cant just let some punk get away free after scamming my dad.

Today, my refund application is pending in Shoppee. It says that "the seller must respond to my refund in 2 days".
Does anyone have any experience on issues like this? What happens after the 2 day period? Will I get my (dad's) money back? Should I go ahead and report the Seller to Shoppee?
How should I go about my current situation to ensure that I can secure the Refund? I'm familiar with Shoppee, but I have never had to ask for a refund from any Sellers, until now. Any help would be much appreciated.

NOTE: If it helps,my dad paid using ShoppeePay.
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tell him now,
be very nice about it,
take it slow and thank him,
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post Dec 14 2019, 11:54 PM

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QUOTE(bergstein @ Dec 14 2019, 01:40 PM)
Shopee is getting shittier at product authenticity

Simply search some game or software you will find there are A LOT MORE pirated/cracked/yada-yada version than original one.

Even physical product, many seller are pretending them as official store ("os"/"_os") but they sell counterfeit product and they even have Shopee Preferred/Shopee Mall designation.

Look at them LOL
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shopee only aimed to beat lazada in any course

and their product manager seems only concerned with their KPI, should related to job security or year end bonus

others, irrelevant

piracy or counterfeit products easily seen in shopee

the most obvious one: "huawei 512gb sd card" sold by china seller cost you only RM1x and it even APPROVED AND LISTED IN SHOCKING DEAL NOT JUST 1 TIME(means it has been manually screened, selected, approved by shopee relevant authority sell on shocking sale, this no longer case of shopee unknown individual seller post on their own shop)
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post Dec 15 2019, 12:06 PM

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There is a agency which you can report to for pirated content. It's BSA or something. You can try google it and get Shopee and the seller into trouble.
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post Dec 15 2019, 02:02 PM

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QUOTE(l4nunm4l4y4 @ Dec 14 2019, 09:46 PM)
Report the scammer to Shoppee and please viral his shoppee account everywhere.
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Tomorrow is the last day of the "Refund Pending" period. I'll wait until then. If the Seller refuses, I'll link the Shoppee account.
~~Might still publicize it even if I do get the refund though, just not as severe~~

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post Dec 15 2019, 02:19 PM

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QUOTE(UserU @ Dec 14 2019, 10:06 PM)
Most likely Shopee will honor your refund.

After all, the seller has already deceived your dad by mentioning "100% original" which is not and you have the conversation to keep.

Screenshot whatever evidence you need to keep in case.
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I've talked with Shoppee's Customer Service yesterday regarding the fraudulent purchase. At least from the conversation, it seems like I have a good chance at getting my refund. Told them outright that the Seller was selling pirated software. Just hope that Shoppee's 'Dispute' team pulls through should the Seller decide to refuse tomorrow.
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post Dec 16 2019, 12:24 AM

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tell shopee CS if no refund u gonna lipot to BSA
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QUOTE(KappAmir @ Dec 14 2019, 10:31 AM)
Okay. I think I found the version of the 'product' that the Seller is selling.
Found by searching 'Adobe Master Collection CC 2019' in rutrackerDOTorg.
It is one of the older versions. Even the list of updates/changes is identical.

Who should I report Shoppee too for selling pirated software?
I heard some people post complaints with the KPDNKK for these matters.
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Under the item webpage, then contact seller....there's a button for you to report

Do that as well though you have spoken to customer service, so they can feel the heat from different angle...- just a call- they may just ignore.

Hope your dad gets his hard earned money back soon.
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post Dec 16 2019, 09:31 AM

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The Adobe Master Collection CC 2019 is being sold for RM5 - RM20 in Shopee. How much did your Dad pay for it?

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post Dec 16 2019, 11:51 AM

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Now all adobe product is subscription-based......
Way more expansive oooo
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QUOTE(MoeSzyslak @ Dec 14 2019, 08:44 AM)
A word of caution though, Shopee is known to side with seller usually.
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100% agree. Once seller dispute.... Even if in chat seller say can refund, 99% Shopee is going to support seller.
Happens all the time


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post Dec 16 2019, 01:27 PM

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QUOTE(birain @ Dec 14 2019, 09:42 PM)
lazada also same, report that seller selling pirated goods also they ignore. pirated softwares, porn e-magazine-year by year, novel in full volume.....their reply "it's ebook", "NFA". doh.gif
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Yep. I think i have reported to Lazada or Shopee on the pirated sofyware. They say afyer investigation, it didnt break any rules or something like that.

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yeah, they charge quite amount of money, but for rural folks that dont have fast speed internet, buying physical copy is the fastest, even they know its pirated for free in the internet.

ur dad should know, if want original go buy from adobe official.
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post Dec 16 2019, 02:56 PM

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QUOTE(Mrsaitama @ Dec 16 2019, 02:41 PM)
yeah, they charge quite amount of money, but for rural folks that dont have fast speed internet, buying physical copy is the fastest, even they know its pirated for free in the internet.

ur dad should know, if want original go buy from adobe official.
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"ur dad should know". how insensitive of you.

i salute this dad/child pair. dad for wanting to surprise TS with something nice, TS for wanting to mitigate this before letting the dad knows. may everything be eased for you TS, and do update us.
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QUOTE(nyemah_mulya @ Dec 16 2019, 02:56 PM)
"ur dad should know". how insensitive of you.

i salute this dad/child pair. dad for wanting to surprise TS with something nice, TS for wanting to mitigate this before letting the dad knows. may everything be eased for you TS, and do update us.
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ok sorry, but that is the reality in world. nothing good is cheap, only parents are free. yes, maybe your parents are tricked to buy since the seller claim it is original, but please check whether its true or not, maybe now the damage is only few ringgit, but its valuable lesson.
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QUOTE(KappAmir @ Dec 14 2019, 02:57 AM)
I love my dad. I really do. But he is pretty naive when it comes to the online environment.
Just this Tuesday, my dad bought me an "Adobe CC 2019 Full Set" through Shoppee as a surprise for me. I just finished building my very own PC, and my dad just wanted do something nice for me. He says its ORGINAL and got a pretty good deal (almost too good).

At first, I thought that was awesome, but then I thought to myself, ORIGINAL Adobe software for that amount is too good to be true. I asked my dad where he bought it from, and he showed me the seller's page. Damn misleading lah this seller. The picture says "Original 100%" and "100% Not A Crack". This is NOT ORIGINAL. Its freaking PIRATED. I did a quick Google search and found a more UPDATED version of the Seller's 'product' for free online. I said thanks to my dad and put on a happy and grateful face, but I'm just so pissed off at what had happened. I wanna tell him the truth, but before that, I wanna try to mitigate the damages first. 

I contacted the Seller through my dad's Shoppee account. Luckily, my dad has not pressed "Order Received" yet, so I can still apply for a Refund. I messaged the Seller, saying that there was a mistake and that I just wanted a refund. Turns out, I cant even download the damn file. The Seller asks me if I needed any help with the installation, to which I said no, I cant even download the file and again insisted on my refund. The Seller has not responded to me since. Even after several messages. I told him that I know that he is selling PIRATED Software, and if he refuses to refund my (Dad's) purchase, I will report him to Shoppee. I dont even care about the money to be honest, but I cant just let some punk get away free after scamming my dad.

Today, my refund application is pending in Shoppee. It says that "the seller must respond to my refund in 2 days".
Does anyone have any experience on issues like this? What happens after the 2 day period? Will I get my (dad's) money back? Should I go ahead and report the Seller to Shoppee?
How should I go about my current situation to ensure that I can secure the Refund? I'm familiar with Shoppee, but I have never had to ask for a refund from any Sellers, until now. Any help would be much appreciated.

NOTE: If it helps,my dad paid using ShoppeePay.
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if seller not respond in 2 days, u will get refund
no worries bro.



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