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post Dec 7 2019, 09:31 PM, updated 7y ago

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Hi, is it better to buy a secondhand MYVI or a second hand swift 2005 at RM 15k? Will it be hard to find spare parts etc since it’s old model ?



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post Dec 7 2019, 09:35 PM

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I'd go with secondhand myvi.

Much cheaper spare parts
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post Dec 7 2019, 09:46 PM

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Myvi ftw
Their everywhere
Parts and getting people to look into them should anything go wrong is a breeze
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post Dec 8 2019, 10:58 AM

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Any reason why second hand?

Its not cheap to maintain a used vehicle if you are thinking about budget
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post Dec 8 2019, 01:37 PM

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Buy 2ndhand MYVI, prepare some cash around 2k to replace wear & tear parts:
Absorber + mounting, engine mounting, lower arm, service aircond, top service engine + gasket change (if leaking), clean oil filter housing + new gasket (if leaking). Optional: clean throttle body(to make engine run smoother).

Car can last another 10 years

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post Dec 8 2019, 04:52 PM

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Why buy 2006 Swift when you can have 2008 Myvi for cheaper or same price? And i can confirm you will not have problems finding any shop that can fix/ replace Myvi parts easily compared to Swift.

The only thing is Myvi have a bad rep on the road. That is also because of the driver. And bad drivers of Myvi are quite plentiful. Does not mean there are no bad Swift drivers either.
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post Dec 8 2019, 06:35 PM

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Thank you everyone. It’s my first car purchase and I wasn’t very sure if I should get a brand new one or a secondhand. But I’m definitely not getting the swift since most of you think it’ll be better to get the myvi instead.
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post Dec 8 2019, 06:39 PM

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Myvi cheaper spare parts and reliable enough.
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post Dec 8 2019, 10:34 PM

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QUOTE(KMG @ Dec 8 2019, 06:35 PM)
Thank you everyone. It’s my first car purchase and I wasn’t very sure if I should get a brand new one or a secondhand. But I’m definitely not getting the swift since most of you think it’ll be better to get the myvi instead.
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Since it's your first car then just get the Myvi coz easier to maintain. Not to say the Swift 1.5 is difficult to maintain or tough to get parts but still won't be as easy as myvi. Plus you don't seem to care or know much about handling so no point getting the Swift 1.5 coz that is the main advantage of that car over the myvi.
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post Dec 9 2019, 12:22 AM

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Swift lah.
It's a better handling car than MyVee.

And also Swift is more towards Japanese built vs Myvi.
Im sure someone will argue say that Perodua = Toyota. Okey that's fine that's your opinion. Not mine.
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post Dec 9 2019, 09:14 AM

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QUOTE(SleeplessEyes @ Dec 9 2019, 12:22 AM)
Swift lah.
It's a better handling car than MyVee.

And also Swift is more towards Japanese built vs Myvi.
Im sure someone will argue say that Perodua = Toyota. Okey that's fine that's your opinion. Not mine.
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Japanese built.... laugh.gif laugh.gif That car very likely made by any other country shipped into Malaysia except Japan.

Another point to get a Myvi is, neither car has good safety rating either. Both are fast. Handling? There are differences. But pointless when the main function is just puttering around the city.

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post Dec 9 2019, 08:20 PM

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QUOTE(netmatrix @ Dec 9 2019, 09:14 AM)
Japanese built.... laugh.gif  laugh.gif  That car very likely made by any other country shipped into Malaysia except Japan.

Another point to get a Myvi is, neither car has good safety rating either. Both are fast. Handling? There are differences. But pointless when the main function is just puttering around the city.
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Suzuki Swift 2006-2008 is made in Japan. CBU model. and just fyi. Suzuki Swift 2005-2010 received 4 star in Euro NCAP & ANCAP Safety rating. Please don't jump to conclusion because its a small car, its not safe.
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anyways, TS, for swift the spare part is more quality if you use back SGP spare part (Suzuki Genuine Part) . Myvi 1st generation is a good car, but the spare part quality is not that great. The common problem for myvi is;

1) engine mounting failing under 100k km mileage
2) Brake rotors wrapped (vibrate)
3) Brake caliper noise over uneven road (klurk klurk sound)
4) Brake pump failure

Other than that, its a solid car, if you change the fluid & lubricants on time.

I have own these cars before. 2 Swifts, 2007 Swift and 2010 Swift sport. and Myvi SE 2009. Swift not much issues, Myvi got those small issues. But Suzuki spare part is expensive. For example, engine mounting Myvi only cost rm400+ labour. Swift cost about rm750+labour.

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post Dec 9 2019, 08:29 PM

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QUOTE(xemoboyx @ Dec 9 2019, 08:20 PM)
Suzuki Swift 2006-2008 is made in Japan. CBU model.

anyways, TS, for swift the spare part is more quality if you use back SGP spare part (Suzuki Genuine Part) . Myvi 1st generation is a good car, but the spare part quality is not that great. The common problem for myvi is;

1) engine mounting failing under 100k km mileage
2) Brake rotors wrapped (vibrate)
3) Brake caliper noise over uneven road (klurk klurk sound)
4) Brake pump failure

Other than that, its a solid car, if you change the fluid & lubricants on time.

I have own these cars before. 2 Swifts, 2007 Swift and 2010 Swift sport. and Myvi SE 2009. Swift not much issues, Myvi got those small issues. But Suzuki spare part is expensive. For example, engine mounting Myvi only cost rm400+ labour. Swift cost about rm750+labour.
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RM400 for Myvi engine mounting, the balance RM350? RM260 for new front disc & pads. RM90 balance ngam2 replace brake caliper pins. laugh.gif So cost of ownership is about the same. Just more common things to replace for about same cost. About the brake pump thing. Yes that one is because the damn brake fluid. Toyota brake fluid actually needs to be changed in shorter period than most cars. I did that myself just today. The reservoir actually has algae growing in it!!! So it needs to be cleaned and changed yearly if possible.
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QUOTE(6UE5T @ Dec 8 2019, 10:34 PM)
Since it's your first car then just get the Myvi coz easier to maintain. Not to say the Swift 1.5 is difficult to maintain or tough to get parts but still won't be as easy as myvi. Plus you don't seem to care or know much about handling so no point getting the Swift 1.5 coz that is the main advantage of that car over the myvi.
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Agree, Just get Myvi TS, since you don't care much about the handling of the Swift which is the main point of this car. Myvi is cheaper and parts are widely available.

QUOTE(netmatrix @ Dec 9 2019, 08:29 PM)
RM400 for Myvi engine mounting, the balance RM350? RM260 for new front disc & pads. RM90 balance ngam2 replace brake caliper pins.  laugh.gif So cost of ownership is about the same. Just more common things to replace for about same cost. About the brake pump thing. Yes that one is because the damn brake fluid. Toyota brake fluid actually needs to be changed in shorter period than most cars. I did that myself just today. The reservoir actually has algae growing in it!!! So it needs to be cleaned and changed yearly if possible.
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the brake caliper pins is a scam lol, don't buy it, just re-grease the pins every 6 months.

i also did the same mistake with my brake fluid, didn't service the brake fluid since i got the car and at 100+k km, it failed on me. Makes sense to change it more often also, since brake fluid is hygroscopic. My routine for my myvi now is. change brake fluid every 2 years, grease brake caliper every 6 months, change engine oil every 10k km/6 month and transmission oil & filter every 20k km/2 years. Oh yea, service & re oil ac compressor every year, since cooling coil is a tedious job which requires dashboard removal. Still on my original AC system after 10 years. tongue.gif
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QUOTE(xemoboyx @ Dec 9 2019, 08:52 PM)
Agree, Just get Myvi TS, since you don't care much about the handling of the Swift which is the main point of this car. Myvi is cheaper and parts are widely available.
the brake caliper pins is a scam lol, don't buy it, just re-grease the pins every 6 months.

i also did the same mistake with my brake fluid, didn't service the brake fluid since i got the car and at 100+k km, it failed on me. Makes sense to change it more often also, since brake fluid is hygroscopic. My routine for my myvi now is. change brake fluid every 2 years, grease brake caliper every 6 months, change engine oil every 10k km/6 month and transmission oil & filter every 20k km/2 years. Oh yea, service & re oil ac compressor every year, since cooling coil is a tedious job which requires dashboard removal. Still on my original AC system after 10 years. tongue.gif
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This year i did lots of major stuff for the 2008 1.3 Myvi. Middle of the year Air cond service, compressor oil, valve, corroded hose, blower, filters, etc. 2 months ago radiator top cover, radiator fan motor, thermostat. November disc & pads, top valve cover oil seal. And today brake fluid.

The caliper pin wanna change to measure to fit type. The other way is ram an oversized pin that is not recommended. Or the gila kuasa mod of using Honda Odessey disc & caliper kits. laugh.gif laugh.gif
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QUOTE(xemoboyx @ Dec 9 2019, 08:52 PM)
Agree, Just get Myvi TS, since you don't care much about the handling of the Swift which is the main point of this car. Myvi is cheaper and parts are widely available.
the brake caliper pins is a scam lol, don't buy it, just re-grease the pins every 6 months.

i also did the same mistake with my brake fluid, didn't service the brake fluid since i got the car and at 100+k km, it failed on me. Makes sense to change it more often also, since brake fluid is hygroscopic. My routine for my myvi now is. change brake fluid every 2 years, grease brake caliper every 6 months, change engine oil every 10k km/6 month and transmission oil & filter every 20k km/2 years. Oh yea, service & re oil ac compressor every year, since cooling coil is a tedious job which requires dashboard removal. Still on my original AC system after 10 years. tongue.gif
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I changed my caliper pins. Too troublesome and lazy to regrease every 6 months. The cost of getting that done as often will be more than just buying the new set of pins with teflon sleeves, unless you like to DIY.
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QUOTE(netmatrix @ Dec 9 2019, 09:10 PM)
This year i did lots of major stuff for the 2008 1.3 Myvi. Middle of the year Air cond service, compressor oil, valve, corroded hose, blower, filters, etc. 2 months ago radiator top cover, radiator fan motor, thermostat. November disc & pads, top valve cover oil seal. And today brake fluid.

The caliper pin wanna change to measure to fit type. The other way is ram an oversized pin that is not recommended. Or the gila kuasa mod of using Honda Odessey disc & caliper kits. laugh.gif  laugh.gif
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if you want to see my excel sheet of my myvi repair, u can pm me. I spend about almost 3k in repairing what you've mention. except for the AC system. Hope i don't jinx myself and have to repair that in the near future. laugh.gif

I'm too cheap ass to change rims for my myvi, plus i just change 1 set of XM2 for this car earlier this year doh.gif ... that's why i still stick to the original braking system. If not mistaken if upgrade to Honda brakes, you need to get 15inch rims to fit it.

QUOTE(6UE5T @ Dec 9 2019, 09:40 PM)
I changed my caliper pins. Too troublesome and lazy to regrease every 6 months. The cost of getting that done as often will be more than just buying the new set of pins with teflon sleeves, unless you like to DIY.
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what caliper pins did you change to? i changed mine to an oversize one recommended by the spare part shop, 6 month down the road, the noise still came back.

I didn't diy my car also, just bring to my regular mechanic for servicing and he help me grease the pins when i change my engine oil. Labour about rm30+grease pins.
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QUOTE(xemoboyx @ Dec 9 2019, 10:06 PM)
if you want to see my excel sheet of my myvi repair, u can pm me. I spend about almost 3k in repairing what you've mention. except for the AC system. Hope i don't jinx myself and have to repair that in the near future.  laugh.gif

I'm too cheap ass to change rims for my myvi, plus i just change 1 set of XM2 for this car earlier this year  doh.gif ... that's why i still stick to the original braking system. If not mistaken if upgrade to Honda brakes, you need to get 15inch rims to fit it.
what caliper pins did you change to? i changed mine to an oversize one recommended by the spare part shop, 6 month down the road, the noise still came back.

I didn't diy my car also, just bring to my regular mechanic for servicing and he help me grease the pins when i change my engine oil. Labour about rm30+grease pins.
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I changed to same size one but with teflon sleeves, already almost a year and still silent. Cannot remember the brand though.


 

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