"In 10 years the Chinese animation industry will outperform the Japanese anime industry." These aren't my words but instead Yoshitada Fukuhara's. In this video I explore a bit more into the idea of donghua and anime as rivals and how the two industries may develop in the future. You can consider this an update to my older video about donghua transcending anime as that one was a little harsh in tone compared to this. Please let me know what you think.

pour more $$ into it...why not, but i have a doubt over the variety of content the china animation might be able to show ....

Go and watch King's Avatar animation, both episodes and movie.

Their quality is almost Japanese anime level if not, close enough now.

Animation yes but story creativity very limited

This. Sikit sikit ban how to do harem anime.

certain genre only. very sure some subgenre like harem, ecchi, hentai, yuri and else cant go mainstream.

Animation quality wise could be.
But storyline wise very hard.

China animation will never beat Disney's Winnie the Pooh

the china's myths and stories related stories

or stories about online games

recycle X 999999

watched a few of them, not a fan of the story, back to japanese anime

China creativity still way2 behind Japan...not just anime, game also china behind. I forsee korea will be on par japan in few years, china too busy with other stuff...cpop, cav, all still lagging

CAV IMHO already > KAV

since they cant write new story

who dont animate ancient shit?

condor
3 kingdom
storm rider etc

pm cav plz

King Avatar

They can just animate the novel

Soul Land is gooding...

Nope.
Nope.

Japanese culture is too good.

Everybody can create animation, its not that superhard.

But the script, storyline, environment, culture that’s the hardest part.

quality and idea,japan will win for sure...

but china will catch up easily due to cheap labor and they are not shameful to steal idea or technology....

Do what west did, attract talent with money

No! Anime > Tongsan Animation

they will make xi winnie the hero of the universe and all the kindergarten and primary must watch great xi the animation.

It’s not that hard, just hire japanese animators . They’re paid very little so it’s easy to steal talent.

I still prefer bmw > toyoda

Doubt China can produce hentai anime tho.

10 years ago I think it's considered abomination that any Chinese smartphones able to compete with the likes of Sony, HTC, Nokia and Samsung but barely anyone see it coming.

No doubt animation is on a whole lot of different level where copying would end up something like Lion King being debated as copying some part of Simba the White Lion for ages.

I think most would agree they are catching up really fast in terms of animation quality but storytelling is a pain in the ass.

In my opinion making animation and comics in China were considered undesirable as an occupation compare to engineers, accountants, executive chefs and such but recent success with Ne Zha earning more than $600 million in China alone probably gave a huge slap on the mindset of its local investors and alike.

China must invest a lot of money on finding any kind of good writings, novels, comics and so forth around the world and bring them onto the screen. It does not have to be entirely Chinese culture at all just like Nintendo's Mario, Disney's Moana or Eiichiro Oda's One Piece but it should be done in a "Chinese fashion".

No offense, I'm really sick of seeing Chinese ancient stuff like Journey to the West or Legends of Condor Heroes that has been remade like

They are already there in technical aspects. But problem is content. The content that appeals to world audience is the one that they are lacking of. Their Gov is responsible for this lack of content.

Boboboi ejenali much better

I'm used to japanese languange, so no.

animate this series

Rubbish China can beat nihon at anime

Hahahaha the god created china only for 1 purpose, global jokes for the whole world

animation can.. idea sure cannot

if they keep making good content like king's avatar, why not

After reading multiple China manga.
I'm pretty impress, China manga is better suited for me compare to Korean manga.

Lol this true, Chinese recycle cultivation story x9999 all become same. At first you read it is fun but then they copy each other so much that it's becomes blend. If feel like every story is the same

To be fair Japan also heading to the same level, now all do isekai x 999999

I think the Korea got better future, the are ahead in coloured manhwa. So much quality and they are not heavily censored. Can find a lot of good prawnwha also

Pendekat laut better

theres a caina anime about progamer life wif adult asuma.

Come back to me when zhongguo make animation about animation

Animation yes, story only a few that will reach an international audience maybe la like King's Avatar which was amazing imho

In all honesty the just need more exposure

Arent many Japanese Anime and Video Game CG outsourced to Taiwan/China.

China huh? Expect monkey king series every season then

link?

100% agree.
Animation quality is just money.

now also can rival no need 10 years

A Jewish girl in Shanghai is one of the anime made in China highly influenced by Hayao Miyazaki. They're getting better.

What about Korean animation? I think I remember a lot of DC animations are Korean-based.
Regardless, animations are usually surrounded by harsh working conditions and low pay. Much like game development.

Westerners love Korean animators so much cos they can deliver at a very cheap price under scrunch timing. I remember a lot of my childhood animations are also done by Korean studios. Those movie-to-series cartoons like Evolution, Godzilla: The Series, MIB. To the ones like Extreme Ghostbusters, Jackie Chan Adventures are all done by Koreans iirc.

I do agree with the sentiment that China might have high-quality animators, but it wouldn't mean much cos they don't have visionary writers.

No freedom of speech, no flourishing arts scene.

Animation quality? Yes

In terms of content? Sorry, but Japanese anime has a lot to choose from to suit your tastes.

Hong Kong komik. Ccp fucuk u no free. And pendekar laut. Niasing the author sense of fashion humban ke laut.

80% of male character is sleeveless T shirt, pants, and high cut boots with a mantle for boss type character.

animation? perhaps

voice acting? plot? not even near enuff

Draw anime who also can. Story is why people watch anime. Including the 'plots '

Just make sure script writers for TVB from 80s to 90s write the story. China audience liked Terminator GeniSys and Transformers so i am afraid what story that China will produce.

But can China do hentai? Loli?
That's the real question.

animation is art. Art cannot copy.

> Soul land
> Gooding

Kek. Average at best.

Really? Example please.

This I have to agree with you, but they take so long to come up with the second season OVAs, then the 3rd season...

can lah. they send people to Japan to learn their style.

I used manga rock

gib titel

cannot blame them lah. back in 70s and 80s, the wish of a typical PRC family is to buy a TV, rice cooker and bicycle. with that kind of poverty what do you think they could learn? even 90s many major cities were full of con men and beggars. back then the youth only had time for the essentials such as study for exam, and work to feed themselves.

now PRC is rich, those children have exposure to a lot more stuff from movies, internet, and other foreign influences. wait another 20 years and see when they grow up what they can produce.

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This post has been edited by munak991: Dec 1 2019, 07:54 PM

id rather watch doujinshi than chinese and korean manga

According to my freelance artist friend who does hentai as commission, he did told me a lot of second strange animation was done in Malaysia, no doubt China has a lot.

Thing is the Japanese animators won’t let a China company have good animation if they did it. Cuz they want Japanese anime to remain on top.

Yeah this friend of mine involved in some Japanese animation company in the past. Graduated from American art school, quite talented (his hentai too, u might have seen it in pixiv or somewhere hehe)

This post has been edited by tdzheng: Dec 2 2019, 12:49 AM

All their trash will be pro CCP shit

If you follow their indie art scene, you will see the creativity and passion is definitely there, but CCP censorship makes it hard for creative artist to succeed since investors just end up going the safe option

manga is a different ball game since they don't need hefty investment.

I read a few quite good too. story can on par with japs

High chance,yes.
Mo Dao Zhu Shi novels and animation series got really popular now. same with the cat series I forgot the title there's also several chinese series which get Japanese dubbed.

Hard cause of CCP.

Look here. Animator Dormitory Project.
https://gogetfunding.com/2019-animator-dormitory-project/

Average income for Japanese animators is 800USD, living in Tokyo.

More on slave labor of Japanese animators:

https://www.vox.com/culture/2019/7/2/206772...ngelion-netflix


I wonder if Korean and Chinese animators have it better or worse.

Got many great novel like Release That Witch got purged by ccp. So i dont think so, China dont have freedom like Japan.

This post has been edited by Tongkat Ali: Dec 2 2019, 06:42 AM

Dont underestimate the art of copying

the graphic alredy same league

it just the plot

Japan is getting sloppier, both story and drawing.

Korea webtoon are getting better.

Too much cringe, boobs fans service and unnecessary Harem for Japan.

Dont know what happen to Japan but I would not be surprised if in 10 years time they will be overtaken by other country in animation.

Does the hentai involves tudung and family? Just wondering

clone that is. Copy element and make it something similar(copy) is hard. If die die do sure no feel one. For example, chinese ancient drama mostly same plot and shit although this is kinda different.

No, maybe u can commission tudung keke

must be about their 5000 years of civilization theme

Never! Hentai Japang Numba Wan!

10 years is a long time....already the standard have reach Japanese animation and some surpass (especially CG animation), but because China so big, it is not as "uniform" as Japan. Japan standard/quality are more uniform across their industry.

Quality wise
- Japan uniformly better.
- China some surpass, some still bad, not as uniform. In 10 years will quality as good as Japan animation? Still open to interpretation, Japan will also improve in quality. I believe the senario will be the same as today.

Productive wise
- Japan has tons more animations compare China.
- China is increasing 20~30% each year in volume. So by 10 year, yes, definitely in volume wise China will catch up.

Overall, the animation industry win, irregardless China can or cannot compete. The choice is consumer have more variety of choices to choose from. We also need American animation, African animation, India animations....so more idea, culture, stories can be more exposed to people to see...

Disgusting, no originality, art style is basically anime copy n paste. Hong Kong 90s comics were much better and original than these.

The only thing PRC can match is the art style even that is questionable at best. Story lines and plots are light years behind Japanese and Korean.

Japan anime was influenced by Disney cartoons, but has evolved to the point that it can be considered as something totally different. Even in the early days of anime, the art style already showed sign of deviation from american cartoon.

Unlike PRC cartoons, which try so hard to copy everything anime yet fail so miserably. The art styles feel like generic anime from non japanese/korean companies.

Japan anime was inspired by western cartoon and exhibits originality that is unique to the anime genre. As for PRC, they are just freaking copying and pasting everything from Japan even down to the shape of the eyelash. Disgusting.

Japan animation actually started more than 50 years ago which in my opinion began to rise with works of Osamu Tezuka(Astro Boy, Blue Blink) and others during 1960s and slowly transcend into golden age that smoothly dominates the world but unfortunately for China it was tragic.

Here's something from Wikipedia:

Animation industry did not begin until the arrival of the Wan brothers in 1926 produced the first Chinese animated film with sound, The Camel's Dance, in 1935. Princess Iron Fan was the first animated feature film in Asia and it had great impact on wartime Japanese Momotaro animated feature films and later on Osamu Tezuka. China was relatively on pace with the rest of the world up to the mid-1960s, with the Wan's brothers Havoc in Heaven earning numerous international awards.

China's golden age of animation would come to an end following the onset of the Cultural Revolution in 1966. Many animators were forced to quit. If not for harsh economic conditions, the mistreatment of the Red Guards would threaten their work. By the 1980s, Japan would emerge as the animation powerhouse of the Far East, leaving China's industry far behind in reputation and productivity. wiki ends.

China's current animation industry is more of a restart which began after 1990 and while the last 20 years has been shameless copying and such, I find it serves more of learning than creating by catching up in terms of technical skills and management but in my opinion looking at the astounding success of the recent movie Ne Zha as well huge failures of many others, soul searching has already began where local investors slowly realize the industry is powered by creativity not capital.

Of course there's no easy way to predict 10 years from now but in my opinion it is long enough for China to transcend from copying into creating original contents.

There's a lot of Donghua (China base animation) getting better and better. I believe the year 2019 and coming 2020 will be an explosion of such animations. From a long time watcher of animation especially japanese animations, been switching more to more Donghua animation from 2019 onwards.....

Example Xi xing ji (westward journey)


Or the Manga version



There are many more such series/gems if you know how to search...

knowing CCP, another method to spread propaganda or nine dash line only

What the fck is wrong with you? Lowyat been infested with a lot of propagandists nonsense also want come....macam CIA base agents also interested in a Kopitiam forum post. Ccp this and that adoi......go the other post your nonsense ccp la or whatever isis hnng thread ah jib gor fans you like

Talk anime pulak ccp here...bodo sohai....

If I'm not wrong some of the production is outsourced to a local animation company in Malaysia.

china's 3D animated film has improved a lot but their 2D is still missing something.

What's the name for the Manhwa?

Follow few chapters then forgotten about it.

The author is same from Feng Shen Ji which also very good.

no, they're all trashy cliche.
look at all the prc funded anime by japanese or chinese co-studio.
they're all trash. quality and story.

3dcg however, if it's not a high budget movie, jap are trash. see new gits. trash.

the future is spanish anime.


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But they cant never ever copy or compete japanese in voice over

Some of the popular Japan anime is already made in China. Anime movie also

saw a few Chinese animation.
IMO the art style are too copy no jitsu Japanese. unlike angmoh and even Malaysian who follow neepornjin storytelling but change the animation style, Chinese goes the complete opposite. neepornjin styles animation but with cringy storyline and horrible humor.

it is in itself a turn off for most people, as you fell like you are consuming an inferior fake.

add in sometime the usual amount of CCP censorships and Chinese nationalist agenda in it.

No because ccp censorhip. I still hate that they discontinued release that witch novel because of ccp.

I believe it is Mirayi Animation Studio.

Mirayi Website

In my opinion China should focus on one hit wonder such as the recent Nezha movie, Makoto Shinkai's Weathering with you and Disney's Frozen 2 as well working creatively hard to develop its own identity where the moment such animation appears on trailer, most young viewers would immediately recognized it as Chinese Donghua.

It would be amazing to see how well Chinese animation industry perform in 2025 if they continue to produce movies such as the upcoming one below and improve its storytelling and art style along the way.

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