questions: does that means hit rating important for a prot warrior too when going to raid?

its the best TPS stat to have. And hey look waht i got today =p

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Added on July 13, 2007, 2:47 amdefinitely

This post has been edited by colincsf: Jul 13 2007, 02:47 AM

Dun bother the hit, just go for stam and dodge.

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Added on July 13, 2007, 10:33 amHuh? its not as important as +sta, def and dodge....no point being able to hit the boss 100% of the time if u get squished all the time.

This post has been edited by jwrx: Jul 13 2007, 10:33 AM

alot of epic eq includes + hit,sta,def,dodge all in one

avoidance & mitigation increases tremendously with higher tier gear. Hit just affects ur tps. I personally favour some hit over no hit at all. I've myself am sporting stats like 20% dodge, 17% parry and 38% block. With all that steady rage inc, u would like to land more attacks than less. And +hit is the best stats to increase ur TPS which in turn allows the raid to dps harder. Having too much avoidance generally is nvr reali a good thing. U may find urself lasting reali long but what u wan to achieve is constant dmg inc cos that supplies u with the rage and healers being more focused on u.

Having too much avoidance generally means allow healers to breath and heal others. With only 15 hit rating which come from a shield, i have no problem in TPS. My unbuff dodge , parry and block is 25.7%, 16.96%, 36.49%. Avoidance also helps alot when you receive too much spike damage that could probably 1 shot you.

yes what u mention has a valid point. But as tank, aside from focusing on the defensive aspect of it, ur tps is something u can look to improve. From my experience in ssc n tk, most bosses in the end requires heavy dps and to allow the raid to do that falls soley on the tank. And what are the ways for the tank to self increase his tps? +hit & +block value being the best 2. Shield slams crits for 2k (look at my armory n the amount of block value i have) and just that additional hit ( i generally use icon of unyielding courage +30hit trinket) really does wonders. That will take us to the point of my mitigation n avoidance. Is it sufficient? At this point of time in my progression lvl ( 6/6 ssc, 1/4 tk) i would most definitely say yes. The stats may seem low but 3 healers is all that is enuf to heal me while the rest can focus on the raid / OTs. There is no need for them to help heal but focus on me. (Dun forget being a tank, u have Last stand, Shield wall, Pots & healthstones all available to you to clutch save yourself ) And on the other hand, the raid benefits from the high TPS that i generate allowing them to dps alot harder, which gives u a faster dead boss.

This setup might most probably need to change comin into Hyjal / BT but as of now this is more than sufficient and in fact even more ideal. Surely being all defensive is what the tank should be doin but once u face and evaluate an encounter, u can find a happy medium as to what is enuf for mitigation & avoidance and actually push on for offensive stats. The only bosses i would say right now thats makes me wear my full tanking set is vashj n tidewalker. Others i will normally change my neck and trinket slots.

This post has been edited by Kurei: Jul 13 2007, 11:32 PM

With 1% hit. My average TPS is around 900-1000 for boss since they parry and dodge alot. And my progression, SSC 6/6, TE 2/4. Oh ya, i played taiwan server .

http://armory.wowtaiwan.com.tw/character-s...9F%B3&n=Postboy

sigh been waiting for that neck....

Ya, quite a nice necklace. But i would change using the maiden's neck when tanking Tidewalker, if a tank can survive tanking tidewalker for that 10min, he basically able to tank any bosses.

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ta cityman. night shift again? hee hee....
and thanks for the website link. forgot about that site.

although they mention a lower hit rating than 16%. i'm not sure but i get the feeling that they're now using 8% with the spell hit rating to be 76 with Shadow Focus 5/5 talent. http://www.shadowpriest.com/viewtopic.php?t=3384

one of the postings in that forum is also on the curator fight. differnet school's of thought. some go full out on astral flares. others are just focusing on curator. atm, aside from the initial SW:P, VE and VT on curator, i then help out on the flares coz it's hard for the melee to bring everyone of them down. however, becoz of the short range of MF, i'm standing always in front of the flare and always next to melee that i usually get blasted quick badly during the fight. what do the other shadowpriest do during Curator's fight? On Curator or flares?

They didn't mention a lower hit rating than 16%...

hmm...are the numbers derived based on calculation though? or does the character sheet values do not take into account talent bonus? because i have full shadow focus now and on character sheet is 101 hit rating showing 8%?

char sheet does not show ur talent bonus.
1% chance on spell hit = 12.5 spell hit rating which means u need 200 hit rating to reach the 16% cap. with 10% from talent u have more than enough spell hit currently. i only put 4 points into shadow focus so that i can play around with 1 more talent point.

ps. WAH! u got more spell hit from items than me!

errr, believe me, it was unintentional. lol! it's like the gear on the left hand side of the character sheet are blues whereas the right hand side of the character sheet is full epics. i was gearing up on spell damage and coincidently, spell hit was also on those items.

now just need to motivate myself to farm the spellstrike set and get 2 primal nethers.

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Added on July 18, 2007, 3:08 pmps. what is your armory link? >.>

This post has been edited by myremi: Jul 18 2007, 03:08 PM

Ya agreed. Went into tk last week, got alar down n solarian seems easy enuf barring raid make-up. Damn now reali need to try to get my stm up for kael.

my armory link?

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Added on July 19, 2007, 11:11 amwhy are u warriors hogging our thread!
/shakes fist
/cast mind flay

This post has been edited by flush: Jul 19 2007, 11:11 AM