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voncrane
post Dec 29 2019, 07:25 PM

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QUOTE(puchongite @ Dec 28 2019, 07:48 PM)
You are just repeating my point that ATV at its core is about user-interface, navigation and so on.

It is not ATV which makes Shield successful !

It is those additional effort put in by the ROM creator which make it successful. And most importantly, it must do well in the main job of a TVbox, the video and voice playback covering wide enough variety of formats and sources.
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Great thinking buddy... You might as well say that the only difference between a Myvi and a Porsche 918/BMW M series are the looks and HU OS/Navigation.. Chasis from the get go has no say in how they drive.. doh.gif .. Like I said, if it were only due to UI & navigation.. ANY Tom, Dick & Harry manufacturer can simply slap those changes you speak off onto any regular Android OS and tada!! ATV OS is born.. mega_shok.gif

Nvm... Gone off topic d..Use that which you prefer... After testing various Stock & Custom ROMs on this GT1 Mini 2.. I can categorically say that the current ATV ROM is the best among all.
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post Dec 30 2019, 06:57 AM

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QUOTE(voncrane @ Dec 29 2019, 07:25 PM)
Great thinking buddy... You might as well say that the only difference between a Myvi and a Porsche 918/BMW M series are the looks and HU OS/Navigation.. Chasis from the get go has no say in how they drive.. doh.gif .. Like I said, if it were only due to UI & navigation.. ANY Tom, Dick & Harry manufacturer can simply slap those changes you speak off onto any regular Android OS and tada!! ATV OS is born..  mega_shok.gif

Nvm... Gone off topic d..Use that which you prefer... After testing various Stock & Custom ROMs on this GT1 Mini 2.. I can categorically say that the current ATV ROM is the best among all.
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You are the one who claimed that what makes Shield successful is the ATV, not me. You are the one who neglected the factor of Tegra CPU/, the factor of good custom kernel, the factor of good codecs, good video players ....All these are important factors outside the definition of ATV.

Not me.

When so many crap ATVs are floating around and never made themselves into anything great.

By the way, I can already predict that the poison TV ROM is just "yet another ATV". "Best ATV" among all other ATVs is not going to make much difference to the overall product. The Afrd is creating more nuisance than anything great. It's codecs are still limited by the crap inherit from whatever. It is still many steps away from shield, despite it having the "best ATV".

This post has been edited by puchongite: Dec 30 2019, 07:14 AM
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post Dec 30 2019, 10:13 AM

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What's important in a TV box is the support for the latest codecs and certification. The main aim is to watch live and stream contents.

If I wanted to play games and perform heavy CPU tasks for simulations as such I won't be buying a TV box.

The thing is this. Why China OEMs and cheap generic brands couldn't catch up with the competition despite boasting so many powerful hardware specs as such. They totally failed in their software departments and firmware/ROM updates. Just sell the boxes and forget about any updates thereafter. What's the use? That's why they can go so much cheaper. Their software department is almost non existent.They throw all their money into the box design and marketing.

Why China brands of phones and tv boxes never gain much market share. They are still far left out from the software support compared to the Western markets. You can boasts of the best hardware but if your software development for that particular device is half cook, it also means a failed product.
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post Dec 30 2019, 10:28 AM

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QUOTE(Candy12 @ Dec 30 2019, 10:13 AM)
What's important in a TV box is the support for the latest codecs and certification. The main aim is to watch live and stream contents.

If I wanted to play games and perform heavy CPU tasks for simulations as such I won't be buying a TV box.

The thing is this. Why China OEMs and cheap generic brands couldn't catch up with the competition despite boasting so many powerful hardware specs as such. They totally failed in their software departments and firmware/ROM updates. Just sell the boxes and forget about any updates thereafter. What's the use? That's why they can go so much cheaper. Their software department is almost non existent.They throw all their money into the box design and marketing.

Why China brands of phones and tv boxes never gain much market share. They are still far left out from the software support compared to the Western markets. You can boasts of the best hardware but if your software development for that particular device is half cook, it also means a failed product.
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I agree with your post in bold there. But many people think as long as they get ATV, they will get latest codecs and then everything is certified, which is totally not related.

Also you can't really blame the China manufacturers. It fault is not entirely theirs. They are by definition, only trying to be a hardware manufacturers. They only put in minimal effort in the software areas. Just take Minix for example, even if they want to work with Netflix, netflix also does not want to work with them. I have a feeling that Netflix thinks Amlogic is not secure.
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post Dec 30 2019, 10:46 AM

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QUOTE(puchongite @ Dec 30 2019, 10:28 AM)
I agree with your post in bold there. But many people think as long as they get ATV, they will get latest codecs and then everything is certified, which is totally not related.

Also you can't really blame the China manufacturers. It fault is not entirely theirs. They are by definition, only trying to be a hardware manufacturers. They only put in minimal effort in the software areas. Just take Minix for example, even if they want to work with Netflix, netflix also does not want to work with them. I have a feeling that Netflix thinks Amlogic is not secure.
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Haha agreed but end of the day the money is always involved in acquiring the certification standards. We could buy the China boxes cheap because they cut such funding for applying such certifications from Netflix, and Google(acquired Widevine) as well as proper software development for their products.

The Amlogic chipsets do support the required standards natively but unfortunately the box manufacturers refuse to pay royalties and thus blocked by them.
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post Dec 30 2019, 12:54 PM

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QUOTE(Candy12 @ Dec 30 2019, 10:46 AM)
Haha agreed but end of the day the money is always involved in acquiring the certification standards. We could buy the China boxes cheap because they cut such funding for applying such certifications from Netflix, and Google(acquired Widevine) as well as proper software development for their products.

The Amlogic chipsets do support the required standards natively but unfortunately the box manufacturers refuse to pay royalties and thus blocked by them.
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Honestly speaking, we hear only the second hand information. From what I heard for example, Minix wants to work with Netflix, meaning they are at least prepared to talk about royalties, but they are denied by Netflix for any further discussion.
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post Dec 30 2019, 04:25 PM

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QUOTE(puchongite @ Dec 30 2019, 12:54 PM)
Honestly speaking, we hear only the second hand information. From what I heard for example, Minix wants to work with Netflix, meaning they are at least prepared to talk about royalties, but they are denied by Netflix for any further discussion.
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For all you know the "offer" is less enticing to Netflix compared to the big ones who plans to keep their monopolies.


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post Jan 8 2020, 04:07 PM

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Since the last two ROMs,

1. the Beelink stock ROM

https://beelink-my.sharepoint.com/personal/...WRjYi1EUktVMTBn

and

2. the Poison ROM

https://forum.freaktab.com/forum/tv-player-...inixfreak_os-v3 ,

Now there are three more ROMs available on this device, thanks to Beelink's generosity in giving free hardware sample to the ROM developers :-

3. https://forum.freaktab.com/forum/tv-player-...-9-0-pie-s905x3

4. https://forum.freaktab.com/forum/tv-player-...androidtv-build

5. https://forum.freaktab.com/forum/tv-player-...x3-normal-build

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post Jan 8 2020, 11:12 PM

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So have you got yourself this box yet?
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post Jan 9 2020, 08:56 AM

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QUOTE(Scissorshand @ Jan 8 2020, 11:12 PM)
So have you got yourself this box yet?
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I don't mind getting a free box, if Beelink gives me a free box, I will also create one ROM for it. LOL.
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post Mar 24 2020, 08:54 PM

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So this android box do not support netflix 4k out of the box?do i have to install hack rom or apk to do that?
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post Mar 24 2020, 09:08 PM

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QUOTE(wcnew @ Mar 24 2020, 08:54 PM)
So this android box do not support netflix 4k out of the box?do i have to install hack rom or apk to do that?
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Yes the box does not support Netflix 4k out of the box.

But you can dual boot CoreElec, that will allow you to run Netflix plugin for CoreElec ( which works the same way as Kodi ), that will give you full HD 1080p Netflix.

4k will require other hacking which nobody has published that they have successfully done it.



 

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