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voncrane
post Dec 28 2019, 10:29 AM

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QUOTE(UnknownH @ Dec 26 2019, 04:16 PM)
Ah~ via Kodi plugin. Of course.
I didn't know coreelec runs on arm/arm64. Always thought x86/x64.
That explains. sweat.gif
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Recent official support for certain Beelink devices..

QUOTE(puchongite @ Dec 26 2019, 05:10 PM)
According to the Freaktab thread I quoted earlier, it seems actually the CoreElec and netflix plugin, does not need a DRM L1 for the job. It only needs good CPU.  tongue.gif
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Yeap.. appears so..

On another note... Updated custom ATV OS ROM now available.. See post #26 for update... Latest stock fw is now V203P0.
Changelogs;
1. Solve the problem that some software cannot recognize the model ? of GT1mini-?, which causes an error or an abnormality. Change the model in the software to GT1mini-2.
2. Solve the problem of automatically turning on after turning off the Bluetooth speaker.

voncrane
post Dec 28 2019, 06:40 PM

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QUOTE(puchongite @ Dec 28 2019, 10:38 AM)
ATV only brings advantage on launcher and play store interface navigation. Apart from that, everything else is disadvantage.

There are apps become missing user interface when rendered on ATV.

Also people claim Netflix 4k requires ATV certication. That's fake info too.
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Wrong.. if it was only a launcher, Nvidia Shield won't be as great as it is today.. Means any regular Android OS manufacturer can just slap on a launcher and call it a day... but they don't do that and magically it's the same right? ATV OS was built for the big screen from the ground up and unlike most other boxes.. which are just glorified for phones/tablet OSes but forced to output for the big screen and audio passthrough tossed in. Don't get me started on the advantages of certain custom ROMs over stock. Stability, increased features such as better voice remote functions (Global & in-app voice support) & better performance being just a few. Those "missing" apps you speak of are all clearly listed in the app drawer and as you can see from screenshots, it's an easy access from there. Lastly, apps specifically built for ATV OS can be controlled using directional buttons on remote, with no fuss.. No need to simulate touching the screen. The ATV OS UI is better & more intuitive for the big screen. Example, Crunchyroll, YouTube, iFlix app, etc..So yes, there are plenty advantages running a custom ATV OS ROM from a chef that knows his stuff than sticking with manufacturer's stock non-ATV OS ROM. Anyways, this is the beauty of Android...OPTIONS.. If one likes, they could just dual-boot CoreELEC & ride the current 1080p Netflix wave. As for 4K, HDR, etc? c'mon.. If one is going to buy such TVs & prioritize Netflix 4K and HDR? be smart enough to buy one that's Netflix certified and stays that way. Netflix has made it easier too, look for smart TVs with the Netflix Recommended TV logo...as these offer a significantly better Netflix experience. No hoops jumping required.

I'm one of those & it's not fake info.. Feel free to contact Netflix & several big name non-Netflix certified manufacturers (as I've done) about why they don't have/offer official support. For such TV boxes, legit properly licensed from Google and built ATV OS is a prerequisite for Netflix to even begin consideration for their "certification". Besides this, there are other requirements, which I can't get into right now. However, I can share the following 7 criteria stipulated by Netflix for TVs. 5 out of the 7 must be met before a manufacturer can slap the Netflix Recommended TV logo on it.
1. TV Instant On: Your TV wakes up instantly and remembers where you were. Apps are ready to use right away.
2. Fast App Launch: Whether you’ve just turned on the TV, or switched from a different app, Netflix always opens quickly.
3. Netflix Button: Turn the TV on and open Netflix with a single press of a button; it’s that simple.
4. Easy Netflix Icon Access: The Netflix app is easy to find and start from the TV menu.
5. Always Fresh: The TV updates in the background, so the latest Netflix TV shows and movies are always displayed.
6. High-res Netflix Interface: Get the best experience when browsing in Netflix - with sharper text, clearer images, and the latest functionality.
7. Latest Netflix Version: The TV comes with the latest version of Netflix with the newest features.

QUOTE(puchongite @ Dec 28 2019, 03:40 PM)
Google certification ? We have to be specific. Google has various certifications. There is play store certification, there is ATV/chromecast certification, there is Google widevide certification.

Play store certification and ATV certification are all irrelevant as far as Netflix is concerned. But for Android platform, Google widevide L1 is relevant, because that's what Netflix depends on for end-to-end secure delivery of video content, to make sure nobody can make a copy of the content in between.

But Google widevide L1 itself is not enough. Netflix also require their own certification ( ESN cert ). So yeah, Minix gotten all the certification from Google ( some of them are irrelevant with respect to Netflix  ) but they still short of ESN cert. Netflix refuse to certify their amlogic boxes.

On Android all these are relevent for Netflix :-

1. Google Widevine L1.
2. HDCP 2.2
3. Netflix certified ESN.

Short of one also won't work.

Netflix is not mendated to use Google Widevine L1 only. They can use other secure mechanism.

Kodi runs on various platforms, but they could only support Netflix upto FHD. But they can get upto 4k on Google platform provided that point 4 conditions are fulfilled, ie Netflix certification, Widevine Security Level L1 and HDCP 2.2 hardware.

*5 Some android devices do not work properly, this is due to restrictions implemented by netflix with devices with false certifications (often with some Chinese boxes) in rare cases even happened to not being able to play the videos.
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TLDR:... No legit Netflix certification.. No real candy, just workarounds that will work until they don't... Azwandy said the exact same thing with fewer words...I think we all know this already. Netflix runs a tight ship and tbh, I prefer they keep it that way.
voncrane
post Dec 28 2019, 07:31 PM

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QUOTE(puchongite @ Dec 28 2019, 07:13 PM)
I admit that I never read the whole post but no, what make Nvidia Shield great has little to do to ATV per se.

It is due to :-

1. Nvidia Shield has a better processor in GPU/CPU.
2. Nvidia Shield also changed their kernel, tuning it for video and audio and game. They have probably worked with Plex author to allow the app to make full use of the hardware.

Again, nothing to do with Android TV per se.

We have so many crap amlogic ATV devices on around. They are real testimony that ATV is actually nothing.

On Amlogic, Minix and Ugoos are those two vendors who also modify the standard kernel, others they are probably just taking the kernel from Amlogic, changing almost nothing.

I don't think Beelink and the poison TV author changed much on the kernel.

If Beelink and Poison TV author ever do much enhancement, their would have probably changed the Android to 64 bit. But no, both the Beelink and Poison TV ROMs are still 32 bit.

The codecs on the standard Amlogic devices are quite crappy .
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Again.. The OS at its very core is designed from the ground up for the big screen. Perhaps you should read my post in its entirety, understand before commenting. The ATV OS Play Store also operates by different rules than the regular Android OS Play Store. Apps that don't follow strict ATV OS guidelines in relation to UI and remote friendly usage will NOT be accepted in the PlayStore. Try this..Use iFlix and YouTube as an example. Launch both their ATV and mobile app on the big screen.. Then tell me which looks and performs better.. The WHY should immediately reveal itself to you. With the ATV OS version, you can navigate easier with the directional buttons AND thanks to a better integrated Google voice assistant, you can do "nonsense" like speaking directly into the remote, commanding the app to search and play videos. Zero screen touching or keyboard typing involved..Its quite smart. These would not have been possible without the prior groundwork.

Sure, there are crappy ATV OS devices which is why custom ROMs are a thing. A capable chef can take a shitty ATV OS fw, strip out most of the crap, fix most of the bugs and intro more features than the manufacturer bothered to include in their stock ROM? Primarily because the community cares more about their device(s) than an already stretched thin manufacturer does. Talking about the Nvidia Shield... The secret to their success is simple. They wanted to prove to the world how great their CPU/GPU is. SO they sat down, designed and came up with a singular device. Now they have at most 5 devices? AND with an army of credible developers behind them. These guys are way more passionate about their work and making the Shield devices number one. Guess what, they could have gone with the "superior & disadvantaged" regular Android OS.. But they didn't, and not for lack of trying.. Instead they chose ATV OS. Surely, that too has contributed immensely to their success today. icon_rolleyes.gif
voncrane
post Dec 29 2019, 07:25 PM

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QUOTE(puchongite @ Dec 28 2019, 07:48 PM)
You are just repeating my point that ATV at its core is about user-interface, navigation and so on.

It is not ATV which makes Shield successful !

It is those additional effort put in by the ROM creator which make it successful. And most importantly, it must do well in the main job of a TVbox, the video and voice playback covering wide enough variety of formats and sources.
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Great thinking buddy... You might as well say that the only difference between a Myvi and a Porsche 918/BMW M series are the looks and HU OS/Navigation.. Chasis from the get go has no say in how they drive.. doh.gif .. Like I said, if it were only due to UI & navigation.. ANY Tom, Dick & Harry manufacturer can simply slap those changes you speak off onto any regular Android OS and tada!! ATV OS is born.. mega_shok.gif

Nvm... Gone off topic d..Use that which you prefer... After testing various Stock & Custom ROMs on this GT1 Mini 2.. I can categorically say that the current ATV ROM is the best among all.

 

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