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 Ultimate Discussions of ASNB Fixed Price UT, Magical UT only in Malaysia

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post Aug 29 2023, 08:57 AM

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QUOTE(mroys@lyn @ Aug 29 2023, 07:45 AM)
I will keep it in asmx if the rates above 5%, else say hello to epf.
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Since 2017, epf has been higher.
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post Aug 30 2023, 05:22 AM

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Has the new 5 billion units of ASM been fully taken up?
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post Aug 30 2023, 08:27 AM

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QUOTE(popice2u @ Aug 30 2023, 05:54 AM)
not yet bruce.gif
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QUOTE(kkk8787 @ Aug 30 2023, 06:46 AM)
Not yet
I wonder how much left
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Thanks, tomorrow going to use up my CASA funds to buy ASM using myasnb app.
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post Aug 31 2023, 10:52 AM

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At least better than most of the promotional FD .
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post Sep 1 2023, 09:15 AM

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QUOTE(MattSally @ Sep 1 2023, 08:40 AM)
Try again, I have just switched out one million ASM2 units.
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U switched to ASM?
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post Sep 2 2023, 09:50 AM

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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Sep 2 2023, 08:12 AM)
Don't be confused boss..

ASM1 - No racial or religion quota. If finished mean finished. Need to try & error like everyone else. 2am morning get up hunt via MyASNB.

ASM2 - 51% of the total fund unit allocation. Still plenty available by the billions. Won't finished anytime soon. Now even more since got people sell & dump into ASB 1 & 2 because additional 100k new quota each

ASM3 - 50% quota. Again still plenty of unit allocation available. Same story. Won't finished anytime soon

And finally
They not allowed to buy the non bumi portion.
And non bumi not allowed to buy bumi portion too....
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So it would be easier for bumi to buy ASM2 & 3.
So can assume % of ASM1 units held by bumi is very much less than 2 & 3?

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post Sep 2 2023, 11:49 AM

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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Sep 2 2023, 10:32 AM)
Yes. Much easier for them to buy the ASM 2 & 3 funds... Anytime can buy... Only problem is the dividend rate... Which much lower.... That why low take up rates.... Also not fill up the 300k quota of ASB 1 & 2 another reason....

The last information got years ago... Indeed ASM bumi holding very minimal.... Chinese is top... Not mistaken around 80% like that. Someone ask in parliament years ago...

Hopefully someone ask the same question this year too... Curious to know the latest updates....
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So ASBx r bumi funds, ASM2&3 mixed n ASM1 non-bumi.
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post Sep 2 2023, 12:37 PM

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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Sep 2 2023, 12:18 PM)
Something like that...

But cannot really say ASM1 as "non bumi" funds... Because still got like 5% or 10% bumi holdings....

Because I remember once years back... During Najib time I think.... ASM1 got special units sales....

They divide the units into race quota percentage... 50/30/15/5 like that...
50 bumi
30 Chinese
15 Indian
5 others

Whichever unsold units after certain period open to all....
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Then better keep in ASM2&3 then switch to 1, at least they r more mixed.

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post Sep 3 2023, 11:40 AM

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QUOTE(MattSally @ Sep 3 2023, 10:57 AM)
So, is it too early to start the discussion about ASM3 dividend or are we all happy that it will be 4.5% the same as ASM2?
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Just 1 month apart, safe to say same 4.5%. They were the same since 2011 except for 2016 6.3% vs 6.1%.
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post Sep 22 2023, 12:19 PM

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QUOTE(kevyeoh @ Sep 22 2023, 11:35 AM)
i will monitor 1 or 2 more years max...if still lower than EPF...i might as well take out and park in EPF already...
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QUOTE(Iceman74 @ Sep 22 2023, 11:38 AM)
Don't think in history the interest is higher than EPF declared based on versus yearly
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Between 2000-2023 ASMx has always been higher than EPF b4 2017, after that always lower.
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post Sep 23 2023, 02:56 PM

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QUOTE(renodiy @ Sep 23 2023, 12:04 PM)
planning 2 wthdraw a huge amount asm3 to dump into kwsp in 8 days......
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In 8 days u mean 1Oct which is a Sunday.
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post Sep 23 2023, 03:52 PM

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QUOTE(!@#$%^ @ Sep 23 2023, 03:15 PM)
possible i suppose for the states that work on sunday
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That is possible. But if he is going to dump into epf straight away he gets only 1 day of dividend. Better to put the hugh amount in high interest vehicle til end of Oct being moving to epf.
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post Sep 23 2023, 07:38 PM

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QUOTE(renodiy @ Sep 23 2023, 04:54 PM)
i guess have to sacrifice 1 months interest...
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If u r talking about a sum of 100k, parking it temporarily in KDI(4%?) would get u rm11/day of interest, no need to sacrifice.
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post Sep 25 2023, 07:33 AM

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QUOTE(MattSally @ Sep 25 2023, 07:23 AM)
Normally, nothing gives a higher return (not 'allowed') than ASB1 but this year is slightly different. Technically, ASB1 gave 5.1% but that included a bonus and some of the bonus was only paid on the first 30k units so, in practice, ASB2 and ASB3 did better than ASB1 for most people.
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What r the dividends for ASBx this year without the bonus?
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post Sep 25 2023, 01:46 PM

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QUOTE(MattSally @ Sep 25 2023, 01:32 PM)
ASB1 3.35% (declared 31/12/22, paid 01/01/23)
ASB2 5.0%
ASB3 5.0%

If you count ASB1 as being a 2022 figure then it is still odd as it is lower (without bonus) than all other ASBx ASMx FP funds in 2022.

I think we may well see ASB1 declare around 6% 31/12/23.
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Wow didnt know it was that low, jialat for those on loan, but then only 1x it is that low.
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post Sep 27 2023, 11:25 PM

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QUOTE(LostAndFound @ Sep 27 2023, 05:38 PM)
Not all is own fault, majority of debt is housing debt, prices risen way faster than income, people still need to have a place to stay right?

More importantly though is not whose fault it is. How many voters chained to housing, vehicle loan or credit card debt vs how many are debt free? Which group you think gov will support?
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So true, debt free ones wish for higher OPR.
Debt heavy ones want lower OPR.
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post Oct 1 2023, 06:55 AM

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QUOTE(MattSally @ Sep 30 2023, 12:14 PM)
My alarm set for 1-30am tomorrow. Hopefully to check that ASM3 account has been updated and I can switch from ASM3 to ASB3.
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QUOTE(popice2u @ Oct 1 2023, 06:48 AM)
if want to try for new units ok lah but stay up just for the update  shakehead.gif
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post Oct 3 2023, 01:10 PM

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QUOTE(Wolves @ Oct 3 2023, 10:44 AM)
Just discussed this in length not long ago. There is no charges but the process will take months to two years. They will need a few documents other than will and you need a lawyer and a court for those documents. 😂 and also dispute within waris might be an issue. The easiest for me... withdraw and stuff into kwsp. 😂 kwsp can easily do the waris and it's free. Plus currently kwsp dividend higher. Currently la... 100k per year limit to masuk... plan slowly lo.

Btw.. if you kick the bucket (touch wood), your waris can inherit the units if they have account and if they don't, they get cash. Just before anybody ask coz that's usually next question. If holder bumi and the units are asb and the waris not bumi then it will be cash.
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If waris dont have AS account, ASNB will open for them if they want to inherit the units.
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post Oct 7 2023, 01:28 PM

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QUOTE(guy3288 @ Oct 6 2023, 11:24 PM)
Yes same. you dont get dividend.

if me i would withdraw now,  put in money market, KDI VERsa etc earn money. dont waste.
dont deposit to EPF so early, no point, better wait till last few days.

open more accounts so that can move large sum of money in 1 day, i have done that
can move much more than 300k online in 1 nite, no wasting interest.
recently i parked few hundredsk and  pumped into ASM end of month.
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The accounts mentioned r referring to bank accounts?
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post Oct 8 2023, 07:42 AM

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QUOTE(guy3288 @ Oct 7 2023, 06:01 PM)
Yes, because 1 SA can max 50k duitnow transfer and max 100k FPX eg PBB

If you only have  1 KDI, still can deposit ASM 200k a nite
Eg Fri 29.9.23 10 am WD KDI RM400k to PBB SA
29 10pm Duitnow 50K to MBB
30 12.01am duitnow 50k Alliance bank
then 30.9.23 2am can deposit 200k to ASM
balance 200k can ASM on 1.10.23, 2 D kawtim.

i put money in all family members accounts
KDI, Versa, ASX , FSM, SSPN, EWs etc
so can move alot more but  risk getting call once a while.
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These will invite call from bank or lhdn?

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