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post Jul 11 2007, 09:55 AM, updated 19y ago

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Seems like Enermax left its competitors in smoke again with their upgraded range to PCIe 2.0 (8pins).
Itz said that, compared to PCIe 1.0 6pins with 150W per rails...PCIe 2.0 8pins provides approx. 300W!!! to power the next generation graphics... rclxms.gif

(juz wondering when there'll b such cards hmm.gif ) but anyway with psu makers like Enermax around, i guess we're alwiz prepared..lol laugh.gif

http://www.enermaxusa.com/current/?p=62#more-62

i've check, even their "entry" range FMA2 r DXX ready...needless to say Liberty, Infiniti & Galaxy... thumbup.gif
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post Jul 11 2007, 09:59 AM

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can't they create EE gpu? after sometimes.. 500W for gpu alone.. crazy la..
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post Jul 11 2007, 10:23 AM

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post Jul 11 2007, 11:03 AM

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QUOTE(hybrid_monster @ Jul 11 2007, 09:55 AM)
Seems like Enermax left its competitors in smoke again with their upgraded range to PCIe 2.0 (8pins).
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I LOL'ed laugh.gif
You sure are left far from the real world.

Only Enermax fanboy would say that.

Google up boy, there's many PSU manufacturer that already has the PCIe 2.0 (8pins).
And some of them provide the PCI-e 2.0 8 pin connector even earlier than enermax.

I LOL'ed to Enermax and it's fanboy.
You have no idea how many people have been complaining about their psu. laugh.gif
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post Jul 11 2007, 11:10 AM

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post Jul 11 2007, 11:42 AM

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QUOTE(sHawTY @ Jul 11 2007, 11:03 AM)
I LOL'ed laugh.gif
You sure are left far from the real world.

Only Enermax fanboy would say that.

Google up boy, there's many PSU manufacturer that already has the PCIe 2.0 (8pins).
And some of them provide the PCI-e 2.0 8 pin connector even earlier than enermax.

I LOL'ed to Enermax and it's fanboy.
You have no idea how many people have been complaining about their psu. laugh.gif
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What type of compalint????
I'm using for 1 year still sui sui thumbup.gif
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post Jul 11 2007, 11:56 AM

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QUOTE(yoyo38 @ Jul 11 2007, 11:42 AM)
What type of compalint????
I'm using for 1 year still sui sui thumbup.gif
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Use the search button, you'll get the answer by yourself. smile.gif
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post Jul 11 2007, 02:20 PM

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Enermax......only good for blow up. Cheh.

Build own PSU better lah brows.gif
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post Jul 11 2007, 02:28 PM

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QUOTE(empire23 @ Jul 11 2007, 02:20 PM)
Enermax......only good for blow up. Cheh.

Build own PSU better lah brows.gif
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If i got the knowledge for it might give it a try tongue.gif
I open up faulty one before and look at inside also rclxub.gif
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post Jul 11 2007, 04:12 PM

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Rather buy a PSU rather than built it yourself.... yawn.gif
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post Jul 11 2007, 04:27 PM

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QUOTE(§layerXT @ Jul 11 2007, 04:12 PM)
Rather buy a PSU rather than built it yourself.... yawn.gif
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Everyone....well maybe not everyone, knows that DIY linear PSUs are far better in terms of quality than anything the market can shove at us. You've got far less ripple, 10 times better regulation, higher load stability, no switching noise, better protection (courtesy of MOVs at the input) and better linearity. The only thing you lose out on is very simply efficiency, which can be pretty much solved with a switching toplogy instead. Most expensive PSU manufacturers are content to use cheapo parts and lousy PCB design to cut costs, DIYers, since we're building the damn thing for ourselves are far better in the quality department.
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if i diy psu.. sure kaboom.. lol
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post Jul 11 2007, 04:55 PM

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QUOTE(empire23 @ Jul 11 2007, 04:27 PM)
Everyone....well maybe not everyone, knows that DIY linear PSUs are far better in terms of quality than anything the market can shove at us. You've got far less ripple, 10 times better regulation, higher load stability, no switching noise, better protection (courtesy of MOVs at the input) and better linearity. The only thing you lose out on is very simply efficiency, which can be pretty much solved with a switching toplogy instead. Most expensive PSU manufacturers are content to use cheapo parts and lousy PCB design to cut costs, DIYers, since we're building the damn thing for ourselves are far better in the quality department.
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how much izzit the average cost of manufacturing a PSU .. say for enermax liberty??


i've opened my liberty.. and seriously i don't think the 500w PSU which costs over 400bux retail have components inside which are worth more than RM100


Added on July 11, 2007, 4:59 pm
QUOTE(yoyo38 @ Jul 11 2007, 11:42 AM)
What type of compalint????
I'm using for 1 year still sui sui thumbup.gif
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well.. u wait lor..

my liberty died just abt 16months usage..



This post has been edited by jinaun: Jul 11 2007, 04:59 PM
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QUOTE(hybrid_monster @ Jul 11 2007, 09:55 AM)
Seems like Enermax left its competitors in smoke again with their upgraded range to PCIe 2.0 (8pins).
Itz said that, compared to PCIe 1.0 6pins with 150W per rails...PCIe 2.0 8pins provides approx. 300W!!! to power the next generation graphics...  rclxms.gif

(juz wondering when there'll b such cards  hmm.gif ) but anyway with psu makers like Enermax around, i guess we're alwiz prepared..lol  laugh.gif

http://www.enermaxusa.com/current/?p=62#more-62

i've check, even their "entry" range FMA2 r DXX ready...needless to say Liberty, Infiniti & Galaxy...  thumbup.gif
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old news already, i thought the thread been up for a long time, but realized that it's today doh.gif...
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enermax so bad ar sweat.gif

empire should build psu..make it to retail..we no need buy those enermax anymore..

empire..how kewl the name for a psu laugh.gif
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post Jul 11 2007, 06:21 PM

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Empire True Power PSU brows.gif cool name laugh.gif
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post Jul 11 2007, 06:37 PM

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QUOTE(jinaun @ Jul 11 2007, 04:55 PM)
how much izzit the average cost of manufacturing a PSU .. say for enermax liberty??
i've opened my liberty.. and seriously i don't think the 500w PSU which costs over 400bux retail have components inside which are worth more than RM100


Added on July 11, 2007, 4:59 pm
well.. u wait lor..

my liberty died just abt 16months usage..
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Well here's a simple cost run down. From what i've seen in my liberty

Discreets :

Resistors : RM 2 ringgit at most (basic carbon)
Capacitors : Main Tank : RM 15 (Good quality)
Capacitors : Secondary and Output filter : RM 10 (Basic quality)
Capacitors : Film : RM 5 (basic quality)
SMD components : RM 3 (for the controller)
Inductors : RM 20 : (assuming high quality)
Transformers : One primary and one secondary : 25 ringgit
PCB : RM 5

RM 85 all together

ICs :

Rectification Diode - RM5
PWM controller - RM 20 (good one lah, TI or LT model)
Output MOSFET - Assuming Independent regulation RM30 (10 each)
Fan Controller - RM 5
Feedback amp - RM 1
Current Feedback amp - RM 2
Other transistors - RM 5 at most

RM 70 all together

Case Items :

Fan : RM 15 (assuming decent quality OEM stuff)
Case : Basic Steel with gloss coat : RM 20
Fan Grill : Free : Probably comes with the case
Heatsinks : RM 10
Cables and Connectors : RM 15 (assuming Street retail for MOLEX)
Assembly : China labour, under the assumption of output vs worker pay, i guess 5 ringgit a PSU

RM 55 at total


So technically you have a total (street price component value AKA no quantity discount), so if i buy all the above from a place like pasar road, it should cost me the below figure.

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220 Ringgit to be sold around 400 bux

Real Production Price due to quantity discount should be 130-150 ringgit at WORST case. Electronics is a very quantity based industry, so even if the PSU costs 100 ringgit. I'm not surprised.
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Aiyoyooooooo. Good PSUs haf had the 8 pin plugs for sum time d ler. laugh.gif
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post Jul 11 2007, 11:01 PM

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QUOTE(empire23 @ Jul 11 2007, 06:37 PM)
Well here's a simple cost run down. From what i've seen in my liberty

Discreets :

Resistors : RM 2 ringgit at most (basic carbon)
Capacitors : Main Tank : RM 15 (Good quality)
Capacitors : Secondary and Output filter : RM 10 (Basic quality)
Capacitors : Film : RM 5 (basic quality)
SMD components : RM 3 (for the controller)
Inductors : RM 20 : (assuming high quality)
Transformers : One primary and one secondary : 25 ringgit
PCB : RM 5

RM 85 all together

ICs :

Rectification Diode - RM5
PWM controller - RM 20 (good one lah, TI or LT model)
Output MOSFET - Assuming Independent regulation RM30 (10 each)
Fan Controller - RM 5
Feedback amp - RM 1
Current Feedback amp - RM 2
Other transistors - RM 5 at most

RM 70 all together

Case Items :

Fan : RM 15 (assuming decent quality OEM stuff)
Case : Basic Steel with gloss coat : RM 20
Fan Grill : Free : Probably comes with the case
Heatsinks : RM 10
Cables and Connectors : RM 15 (assuming Street retail for MOLEX)
Assembly : China labour, under the assumption of output vs worker pay, i guess 5 ringgit a PSU

RM 55 at total
So technically you have a total (street price component value AKA no quantity discount), so if i buy all the above from a place like pasar road, it should cost me the below figure.

of

220 Ringgit to be sold around 400 bux

Real Production Price due to quantity discount should be 130-150 ringgit at WORST case. Electronics is a very quantity based industry, so even if the PSU costs 100 ringgit. I'm not surprised.
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do you know where to buy the cable and connector? I cant find it in jalan pasar. wonder maybe farnell is selling.
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post Jul 11 2007, 11:08 PM

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QUOTE(jasonkwk @ Jul 11 2007, 11:01 PM)
do you know where to buy the cable and connector? I cant find it in jalan pasar. wonder maybe farnell is selling.
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