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Samsung Samsung Galaxy Note 10 Discussion Thread V3, The 10th Series Note

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post Dec 10 2019, 04:56 PM

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QUOTE(ridox_orimabu @ Dec 10 2019, 03:21 PM)
i suspect this is the case too. too bad at work my 4g is there but minimal. so the disruptive coverage is definitely there.

i am enjoying the phone dun worry. just filling the thread with some feedback over the most simplest issue hahahaha. not to say im gonna sell it. just try to live with it as surely one ui 2.0 will fix whatever flaw there is with the note 10.
my usage is simple. i am on whatspp, tapatalk,youtube, facebook and instagram almost 70%. the rest web browsing and camera like 1% only. din even make use of the dolby surround sound. then AOD also off. i mean i turn off most of the flagship function which in turn other than the camera there is basically no difference to a casual user like me compare to let say other midrange phones. The only reason im holding on to the phone is coz the pre-order deal was good. then the s-pen. i sign lots of documents via PDF so this device gets most love from me compare to others.

only thing is, whenever i see how Apple perform on their battery with the 11 lineup, i kinda have this mix feeling. but i can't afford to go to IOS. too many things have been committed to android eco system and google. can't loose that one. so just hoping samsung will do something about this thing. like seriously. a flagship powerhouse should have its battery the least of our concern.

i mean how could the 11 even have its bluetooth on all the time and reserving battery at stand by for 9 hours without dropping a single percent? hahaha
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QUOTE(hightechgadgets8 @ Dec 10 2019, 03:26 PM)
feel the same way as you do, wanted to sell off the note ald and jump to ip11... but i love my music/movies can be easily transferred over cable from pc thus keeping this for the moment
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QUOTE(zoixc @ Dec 10 2019, 03:27 PM)
im also mostly on facebook, whatsapp, insta and chrome. today unplug around 11 something and start gaming at 95 for an hour now battery sitting at 80. confirm can use one whole day no problem la.
honestly i would also go apple for the battery la, but too tied to google and their eco system already hahaha.

hopefully oneUI 2.0 can have some big improvement !!
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Like I mentioned many times before, Samsung should better be doing something to improve on Samsung Experience. As promised by Samsung themselves, they plan to make Samsung Experience "as close as possible" to stock android. Everyone knows that Samsung heavily laces stock android with their own apps and features which makes the whole experience more enjoyable (to some people) but then again this "Bloats" the whole ecosystem.
The problem lies in Samsung's own native apps and features are running constantly in the background, collecting user data, location etc and this is working concurrently with Google's own apps which are doing the same. With both sides from Google and Samsung that are constantly running in the background, this explains the bad battery life and battery drain on Samsung phones and this has been an issue ever since.
If Samsung is still adamant on running their own ecosystem, there would be no end to this issue and hence that is why I wont use a Samsung as my daily driver (though I would own one). There are just too many issues, some big and some petty ones which annoys the heck out of me.
Some users have resorted to purchasing certain apps to disable many native Samsung and Google apps on their phones but this actually destroys the whole user experience if you ask me. We pay so much good money for a flagship, I want it to work right out of the box. No need for tweaks here and there.

Samsung's own Exynos chipset also seems to be part of the issue. Somehow or rather, SD always have a 'better' chipset that outperforms the Exynos in both performance and battery life.

Samsung has to come up with a better FW and better chipset for an overall better user experience.

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QUOTE(ijuanp03 @ Dec 10 2019, 05:53 PM)
I don't know if i should laugh or cry but the Galaxy Note 10 i purchased from T&L Telecom is the single sim Snapdragon version. I've not opened the box yet but the packaging from the outside only has one IMEI number (i remembered my S10e having 2 IMEIs printed).

I need dual sim capability for my Philippine sim card. Anyway, T&L is my trusted seller from HK but i was caught by surprise. To be fair, he put a small phrase in their ad that the Exynos version is stock dependent so I should be expecting either. 😅
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There are two versions of the SD Note 10. One is single sim and the other hybrid dual sim. Guess you got the single sim model.

QUOTE(touristking @ Dec 10 2019, 06:07 PM)
Overnight standby. Note 10. Battery drops 9% over a 6 hours period. Location on. Bluetooth off. Mobile data on. AOD on. Wifi on (but super slow speed). This is really terrible. The Note 8 with AOD off, only drop 3%.
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That is very bad. Try changing settings of AOD to turn off pass 12 midnight. You dont need to see AOD after you are asleep right. Normal battery drain overnight should be around 5-6%.

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post Dec 11 2019, 12:00 AM

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QUOTE(Xaser_3 @ Dec 10 2019, 08:11 PM)
According to official Samsung statement, Note 10 is due to get it in February next year. Since they decided to be so kind and nice enough to release it way ahead for the S10 series, I am expecting another week or so before they push the update for the Note 10 users.
Sure, will do Bro. Besides the layout changes, the new Android 10 navigation gestures takes a little getting used to, swiping from the sides.
Well said Bro. You should take the opportunity to post your comments on Samsung Member's. I am very certain that many more users will agree and support your statement, since you already took the effort with the long write up. What we want is for Samsung's higher management to pick up and read so they would listen to how the majority of users feel and want.
Welcome back Bro! 12.12 sales only 2 days away. Rady to pull the trigger on a brand new Note 10+?
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Ah...me is just a nobody. Samsung would not give a damn. They will only be concerned when loyal users like you leave them and their sales volume plummet.
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post Dec 11 2019, 12:09 AM

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QUOTE(ijuanp03 @ Dec 11 2019, 12:04 AM)
Fortunately I got the dual sim HK set and using both sim cards already. The retail box only has one line of IMEI but it's the same as the phone so yeah.
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Lucky you. US sets could be single sim models.
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QUOTE(ijuanp03 @ Dec 11 2019, 03:05 PM)
Oh.. it wasn't my unit but from user-tai_digidestany
I bought mine from T&L Telecom (HK-based seller) and they are real brand new and sealed units.
He bought his from AZ Tech - which in my view, sells refurbished units but tell everyone they are brand new.
His Note10+ 5G already has verizon sim card inside the tray and developer options is turned on.
A lot of questionable things from AZ Tech. Buyers who posted pictures of the units in Lazada (where AZ Tech is a seller) show "used" boxes with accessories looking old already.
So many red flags but AZ Tech knows how to counter the attack by saying "if it's not brand new, why do they have good ratings" like LOL.
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Or they could be selling refurbished units, while the accessories are sourced from elsewhere. Very important to match the Imei on the box with the phone. If its a different Imei on the box and different imei on the phone then its confirmed a refurbished set. Should avoid these sellers like a plague.
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post Dec 12 2019, 08:21 AM

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QUOTE(attw @ Dec 12 2019, 07:50 AM)
How much did you pay for it?
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I dont think its as low as what you got the last round bro.... biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(mfa682 @ Dec 12 2019, 01:50 PM)
Noob question. Say if we buy imported set Samsung Note 10+, is there any problem to get VoLTE working correctly?
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No problem getting VoLTE.

QUOTE(attw @ Dec 12 2019, 03:25 PM)
Haha, yeah, looks like my phone value survived this round, hahaha...
Hahaha, no la, I was asking to see what was the lowest online price for a new set this round. Planning to let mine go soon - looks like I won't be waiting for Android 10...
Yeah, but that's quite close already. Congrats on your purchase!
Maybe CNY sale smile.gif
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Rm3088 still da best deal. You are still da man! biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(attw @ Dec 12 2019, 10:20 PM)
If they stick to their Exynos chip then can count me out laugh.gif
Letting it go for 3k, hahaha...
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See below comment bro... Lol.

QUOTE(skyp @ Dec 12 2019, 10:49 PM)
Wow, thanks for telling.
Really unprofessional to do that.
And 3k for used is crazy!
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QUOTE(tai_digidestany @ Dec 12 2019, 06:32 AM)
So here's the update of conversation between AZ-Tech and I. Mind you I also bought Google Pixel 3 XL 128GB from him through Lazada back in June.
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At the same time the existence of the pre-installed Verizon simcard might be explained here but here's the weird part; it stated that it has pre-installed screen protector; then why on earth AZ-Tech on the first place mentioned that they need to open the box for QC check and applying the screen protector where as the screen protector has been pre-installed!?
Yes, the IMEI matched with my phone.

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And here's the content of the package of the accessories in the phone wrapped in sealed plastic;

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Here's the back of the box itself;

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At the same time, here's one thing that really weird; the sealed sticker is not aligned. It was explained by AZ-Tech that they want to make the QC check but why the unaligned sealed sticker?

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After I use HotShield VPN and use USA server, I finally can update my Samsung Galaxy Note 10 Plus 5G as per attached below the latest update installed;

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Here's what I think; this phone is actually a new phone; but they just take the front box cover that stated the IMEI and use another different back box from the same variant; that explain the misalignment of sealed sticker; and at the same time, they put OEM accessories in the box; which explained they put it in sealed plastic.

The reason why Developer Options was on; in my humble opinion; that Samsung or Verizon has to installed Verizon's app in the phone in which it need to be done via ADP USB in which it need to be enable by enabling the Developer Options.

Perhaps AZ-Tech being partially truth about the phone is a new phone but they are not being fully honest about the whole process; including the box and sealed in plastics accessories.

So yeah, I would advice people to stay away from AZ-Tech due to their dishonesty and transparency.
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Whatever it is, you have already received the phone. BUT having said that, you still have the option to return the said item if you purchased through online sites such as Lazada or Shopee should you decide you do not want to accept the item.
We should be more careful next time, buying only from reputable dealers and also making sure it is a sealed set of possible. Eve SME advised its customers to accept only sealed sets.
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QUOTE(ijuanp03 @ Dec 12 2019, 11:24 PM)
There are 3 questionable things from the seller's response:

1. They applied another screen protector when in fact, all Note10s have pre-installed screen protector. Could it be that the phone is used that's why they have to replace the default screen protector due to unavoidable scratches?

2. Samsung stickers are not aligned. Why would it be misaligned? Unless it's not the actual box for the phone.

3. Developer options turned on (it has nothing to do with any Verizon bloatware).
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1) You have a very valid point there. Replace a scratched sp or install one if previous user removed it. So, it most probably is a used set.

2) Cut and join boxes to make it look legit. Anyway, there are barcode stickers inside the box containing the phone imei numbers for verification. I assume that would be missing...

3) Well, the phone could be flashed with a non telco firmware to remove telco locks, telco settings etc

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QUOTE(aral3005 @ Dec 13 2019, 05:06 AM)
I mean those who get it thru samsung staff promo
Some even advertise it on their fb
But so far only twice such promo happen
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I think its happening continuously. There is non stop supply of such phones on the market starting with the s10, s10+ and now the note10 amd note 10+.

QUOTE(touristking @ Dec 13 2019, 06:30 AM)
when talking, the screen is switched off.
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Still counts on battery usage. Check your battery status. Unless if you never get any calls at all,

QUOTE(tai_digidestany @ Dec 13 2019, 08:00 AM)
The sole reason I want a Snapdragon version is because that it can install GCam.
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Stock cam not good enough?
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post Dec 13 2019, 11:17 AM

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QUOTE(ijuanp03 @ Dec 13 2019, 10:03 AM)
Dynamic range is excellent but too much softening.
Samsung can't compete in bringing out detail into the shot.
But if you're not going to pixel-peep, you would think pictures look great as it is pleasing to the eye.
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Yup. Cant see much detail if you are just viewing on your phone. If you view the picture on the pc, then it would be a different story.
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QUOTE(aral3005 @ Dec 13 2019, 12:20 PM)
Yes, mine is the first promo after note 10 series came put
Then about 2 months later, got promo again but only applied to s10 and tab s6 - itchy to get tab s6 to try but successfully manage to control my nafsu

So far this bote 10 plus is the best gadget purchase in my life haha - no brainer deal for less than 1 month after launch deal
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Haha.. untung lar for all you who qualified to buy Samsung phones at staff price. nod.gif

QUOTE(bobowyc @ Dec 13 2019, 12:23 PM)
Hey guys. I want to ask, I fully charged my note10+ at night, about 12am. And I left it till morning about 8am, battery drop 8%, is that good? 😅😅 So far my battery is good, when I reach home I will have 30%+ battery. Hence I will play game or watch movie till 20% then charge. 😅
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Normal battery drain overnight should be 5-6% for Samsung phones. 8% is a little bit high. Try turning AOD off when you go to sleep at night to conserve battery.
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QUOTE(zoixc @ Dec 14 2019, 12:07 AM)
Quite similar to mine, what resolution are you on ?
What's the normal usage hour for you ?

Just now started gaming at 93 for 1 hour 11 minute use around 20% on 4G and highest resolution. For me its okay.

Now the weird thing is that after unplug, the battery drops to 98 almost then 95~3 quite fast as well
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He is on the Note 10 on FHD display only. WQHD display on the Note 10+ takes quite a bit more of your battery life.
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QUOTE(zoixc @ Dec 15 2019, 12:31 AM)
I agree, coming from ah lcd screen. The difference is so big especially on the highest resolution
I usually only check when i notice the battery drops very fast. My cellular battery usage is at the top lol. Maybe dual sim causing this and also the battery after unplug drops like siao to 90 so always make me go check whther got something causing or not
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Dual sim means dual standby. Your phone has to search for two networks at the same time. Sure consume more battery.

QUOTE(tai_digidestany @ Dec 15 2019, 06:44 AM)
Just wanna say this out loud.

Samsung Galaxy Note 10/10 Plus is a great phone for left-handed people!
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Because the power button is on the left side?
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QUOTE(attw @ Dec 16 2019, 07:55 AM)
Should be already discounted from your phone's retail price.
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How is your Note 10+ experience so far bro?

QUOTE(ijuanp03 @ Dec 16 2019, 01:08 PM)
I'll be testing my dual sim Snapdragon Note 10 without limiting features with both sim cards inserted.
Let's see how it holds up compared to my Motorola One Zoom.

Hopefully battery life is decent enough as my daily driver. Decent for me is at least 4 hours SOT per full charge. (Moto One Zoom can last more than 7 hours so I'm not asking too much).
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Not a fair comparison as your Motorola One Zoom should only be running a full hd 1080p screen compared to the Note 10+ at WQHD screen. The Note 10+ with WQHD screen consumes a lot more battery juice.
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QUOTE(attw @ Dec 16 2019, 01:52 PM)
Just sold it moments ago bro. Rugi business laugh.gif
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Wah... so fast bro?

QUOTE(attw @ Dec 16 2019, 02:17 PM)
About 3 weeks. Strangely it wasn't the battery or the FP scanner that drove me crazy this round. It was the poor reception. Side by side with a Redmi Note 7 and the Note 10+ had poorer reception. My data connection kept getting disrupted so I finally gave up.
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Its the Exynos chipset and modem that is to be blamed for the weaker reception. But, can it be that bad that your data connection keeps getting disrupted? You are on Maxis iinm.
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QUOTE(ijuanp03 @ Dec 16 2019, 02:26 PM)
Oh.. it's a Note 10 not the + version.
Both are running full HD+. So far it's ok. I'm enjoying the compact size compared to the One Zoom but i miss Moto gestures (chop twice to flashlight and twist to camera), Moto display (wave on top of the screen to check notification and especially the glowing Motorola logo for notification at the back).

Performance is definitely faster (675 vs 855) but I'm still getting used to the curved display (slight accidental touches here and there).

I've tried different versions of Gcam and although it worked pretty good, I can live with the decent camera quality of the stock camera. I'll just use Gcam if an iPhone user tries to compare camera side by side. Lol
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Not to mention your Motorola OneZoom is a mid range phone vs your flagship Note 10. laugh.gif
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QUOTE(zoixc @ Dec 16 2019, 02:59 PM)
ohh, too bad im tied with a contract so cant change anytime soon
im always on maxis, someplace the line is bad but i never had until need cant use at all
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Our bro did mentioned that he was in a building where reception was very poor. But then again, if network works with other phones but not with that particular phone, then there must be something wrong with the phone's reception.

QUOTE(attw @ Dec 16 2019, 03:02 PM)
Yes bro. I was on a business trip last week through various parts of Johor and Melaka, and knowing how useless hotel WiFi can be I really needed my phone to step up to the plate as I was tethering my laptop to get work done but it became pretty frustrating at some point. I have my cellular iPad and my work phone (the Redmi Note 7) running on maxis too and it was not a problem. When I got back last Friday I immediately decided the phone had to go.

Samsung needs to acknowledge that the Exynos is not as good as they make it out to be.
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So whats next bro? The S11? tongue.gif
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QUOTE(ijuanp03 @ Dec 16 2019, 10:15 PM)
Weird. My SD Note 10 seems to have a good reception. Or is it an Exynos thing again?
What drives me crazy is the FPS. I'd prefer the optical in display FPS in my One Zoom than ultrasonic. It's freaking slow to react with touches.

Speaking of touch, the touch sensitivity of Note10 is also meh even turning on the touch sensitive mode. It has always been an issue for Samsung phones back from the HTC vs Samsung days. Sigh
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Yes, the SD version comes with a better modem too.

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