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joshhd
post Nov 11 2019, 05:09 PM

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QUOTE(fx_53_xt @ Nov 11 2019, 04:53 PM)
Yes its an outdoor antenna, no there isn't any booster or sort, however i can't remember if there's a split/merge cabling thing.
Sorry couldn't get a photo or anything as it is in my hometown, and i am doing everything i can to prevent my dad to go up onto the roof. (as he has been suggesting to do so to replace the antenna).

I'm getting him a new TV to replace the CRT + DTV tuner box. But before i do that i need to ensure the antenna works for DVB-T2 tuner else I need to figure out something else.
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You can get an installer/technician to help you with that if you want.
The antenna is just for receiving signal, UHF antenna is meant for receiving UHF frequencies, and it doesn't matter if support DVB-T2 or whatever it is.
Most importantly is the tuner or the TV that supports it, not the antenna.

What's the cable type? Is it RG-6 type (same as Astro cable)?
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post Nov 11 2019, 06:56 PM

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QUOTE(gwping @ Nov 11 2019, 06:45 PM)
Seems this set price higher than others, can use wifi to watch Youtube? anyone tried?

https://estore.pensonic.com/product/mytv-br...decoder-ir-9410
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RM187 is the retail price for MYTV Advance box.
Watch YouTube? MYTV want you to buy their TV box is only to receive/watch its digital TV channels and its other interactive services, not for other thing else.
No, you can't watch YouTube on that.
Perhaps you can look for Android boxes that comes with DVB-T2 built in tuner at online shopping sites like Lazada and Shopee.
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post Nov 11 2019, 07:44 PM

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QUOTE(9M-MAS @ Nov 11 2019, 08:58 AM)
You can still find antennas requiring manual termination on sale even today. Those on the market here with ready connectors to accept F plugs you will find are almost always Thai brands.
blink.gif To carry around just get one of those shorter 5Es lo. Much easier. haha
Can be better - watch the Youtube video I posted above. Make sure the braiding is connected (touching) to the plate, while the core should be insulated from the same.
His old antenna should work just fine. I did part time antenna installation once and aligned dozens of such old antennas with perfect reception and signal strength. Just modify the connection re the braiding.

VHFs in my experience you can use if you're very, very close to the transmitter. Otherwise the performance varies greatly from the UHF.
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Hmm, why manual termination? Cheaper to produce by the manufacturer?

But he worry that JP-5E may not be that powerful. He want a portable, yet very powerful type of UHF antenna. But he's not sure how strong is 5E. Like now, his old 17E antenna works like okok, but if use 5E, means lesser elements, does it mean it'll less powerful than 17E ones. How strong JP-5E is, compared to

Hmm, so at least VHF antenna is not totally useless, isn't it? For those that live very close to transmitter can just reuse back the antenna.
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post Nov 12 2019, 08:20 PM

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QUOTE(Skylinestar @ Nov 12 2019, 06:56 PM)
I use mine for FM radio.
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Use back the big bulky VHF antenna to receive FM radio? shocking.gif You connect that to your AV system or something?
Why..? Why not use some simple whip antenna or something? Just 1 long stick to get the job done?
Or you do that for the sake of reusing the antenna?
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post Nov 12 2019, 11:15 PM

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QUOTE(Skylinestar @ Nov 12 2019, 08:30 PM)
whip antenna is useless in my house. i don't live near the town or radio/tv tower. even phone cellular strength is crappy in my house.
nothing beats outdoor antenna  tongue.gif
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Okay... So what FM radio device did you use to connect your VHF antenna? Some audio amps or something?
Can take pic, of the antenna, cable, and the audio amp...
I'm kinda curious though...
Cuz I hardly see, or even never seen those who use TV antenna (VHF) to connect to a FM radio instead of TV. blink.gif
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post Nov 17 2019, 01:31 AM

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QUOTE(9M-MAS @ Nov 10 2019, 09:21 PM)
The braided shielding coming out of the RG6 should be under the plate secured by two screws (polish if possible to ensure better electrical contact). He simply cut the braided shielding off!? That may explain the relatively low signal strength.

F connector ends on antennas on the market in my experience means it's not locally manufactured - most Thai manufactured ones have this. Locally manufactured ones, such as you friend's still require such "manual" termination. They are common at local electrical shops.

One curiosity - why did he decide to terminate and do a connection just so shortly out of the box? Why not run the whole length of the cable from the back of the decoder / TV? Introduction of such connections in my experience usually increase risk of signal degradation.
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He rewire his antenna again earlier... He makes sure the braided part touches on the metal plate as what you previously mentioned. What do you think? Is it correct?

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post Nov 17 2019, 11:31 AM

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QUOTE(9M-MAS @ Nov 17 2019, 10:18 AM)
That's the aluminium tape touching the plate. I don't see the braided shielding (wire) there? It's best that they (the wire/braided shielding) are "wrapped" around the plate. That's what I always do.
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How wrapped around the plate? Can show how you do it on your antenna? biggrin.gif
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post Nov 18 2019, 09:46 AM

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QUOTE(dayojah @ Nov 18 2019, 08:00 AM)
The wiring from the coax connector to the element looks very corroded
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Which part? Can highlight it?
And how can he solve the corroded part?
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post Nov 20 2019, 08:26 AM

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QUOTE(Xcal @ Nov 20 2019, 07:51 AM)
Hi,

want to ask anyone face this issue where TV1 and TV2 signal can't be received? Other channels are okay though.
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It is a known reception issue where either Mux 1 (TV3, 8TV, Go Shop...) or Mux 2 (RTM) channels can't be received by some viewers.
While monitoring the signal strength readings on your TV or digital TV box, readjust/relocate your antenna until you get a stable signal of Mux 2.
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QUOTE(JON WU @ Nov 20 2019, 12:10 PM)
hi, thanks for your reply,, i know what i am doing, i am expert to install parabolic dish to receive satellite signal, as you know i can receive signal from ABS2 sat that MYTV relay it with Multistream support receiver and 10 feet parabolic dish..

but not all residents have big garden to put 3 meters dish, so side offset dish 90cm can use to receive signal from Asiasat 9 ku-band.. but the problem is the signal is encrypted. so we need right decoder to decrypt it...

i see malaysia residents have an option to receive their local live tv, from Teressterial and from Satellite.. and lucky for malaysian residents can have receiver MYTV combo that have DVB-T2 & DVB-S2..
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Yes it is possible to receive MYTV DTH from Asiasat 9 Ku band satellite in entire Indonesia, because the satellite beam covers entire Malaysia and Indonesia (basically it's south east asia beam)

It is encrypted and only original MYTV hybrid box (S2+T2) can watch it. For the activation, it is usually activated by the installer themselves once the installer complete the installation. That's the standard way...

For your case, you got to find an installer that willing to help you preactivate the STB in Malaysia first, then find ways to ship the STB to you in Indonesia.
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QUOTE(JON WU @ Nov 20 2019, 01:36 PM)
yes , .. if you can refer online shop that can sell that hybrid box and already activated ?
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post Nov 21 2019, 08:06 AM

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QUOTE(birain @ Nov 21 2019, 07:51 AM)
cause he's from INDO. MYTV is for Malaysians. it's illegal to obtain Malaysian Freeview, that's why it's encrypted broadcast.
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post Nov 25 2019, 11:57 PM

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Earlier's Majalah 3 programme on TV3 talks about myFreeview digital TV broadcast, and ASO in Sabah & Sarawak.
Here's some screenshots:

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"DTH transmitters"?? Err... hmm... doh.gif

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More:
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Skip to 20:38 for the part that talks about Digital TV
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post Nov 26 2019, 12:05 AM

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<<...continued from previous post.
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Hmm, not familiar how to install and set it up, so he own self search on YouTube and Facebook for answers.
You be the judge on how good MYTV is on their ways to educate the public on how to set up digital TV lo...

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Yes! Pull that plug!

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Yeah, up to 14 channels, with pretty much almost half of its programming are all shopping, shopping, and shopping.

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Skip to 20:38 for the part that talks about Digital TV
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post Nov 26 2019, 05:48 PM

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Just stream online. Much easier. Don't even need to bother these kind of things.

If expect TV channels on Myfreeview to provide the programming you'd expect, you wait forever also won't happen.
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QUOTE(joshhd @ Nov 25 2019, 11:57 PM)
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A very close up shot to the transmitter panel.
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QUOTE(dayojah @ Nov 26 2019, 11:33 PM)
Look closely at the narrow section at the tower top and you can see standard flat panel UHF transmitter antennas
Ignore the PDRM? antennas at lower levels
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Err, I did attach this screenshot on the flat panel UHF transmitter antenna, hidden in that spoiler tongue.gif
Go click the spoiler to reveal more photos biggrin.gif
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post Nov 27 2019, 08:16 PM

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QUOTE(Someonesim @ Nov 27 2019, 05:59 PM)
mcm difficult to buy cable ( to connect new TV and wall-mount input from condo house ), asked few electronic shop, computer shop, Aeon Big, Mr DIY all dont have RG6 coaxial cable  doh.gif

Will I get it at jln pasar or low yat plaza ? or should straight buy online ?
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Buy online can get dy... And the cheap affordable ones from local sellers already good enough.
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QUOTE(chuppachop @ Nov 27 2019, 09:41 PM)
There seems to be some issue with the TV1 feed that Starhub has been receiving, for a couple of days already, all we see are the below, lol

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QUOTE(Qash-M @ Nov 27 2019, 09:45 PM)
Must've been related to the satellite feed.
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The TV1 on Starhub, is it in HD or SD quality?

All RTM channels are no longer transmitting via Measat 3 (C band) since the full ASO completed for Sabah & Sarawak on 7 Nov 2019 onwards.

I think a more "economical" and reliable for Starhub, as well as any Singaporeans who wish to receive Malaysian channels now, including TV1, is use an UHF antenna to receive digital signals from Malaysia.
It is technologically much easier and simpler actually.
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post Nov 27 2019, 10:31 PM

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Singapore DTT: channels is scheduled to have some upgrade on its audio track:

Result:
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As the viewers may experience very minor disruption as such, will still be informed on social media and presumable elsewhere too.

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Malaysia DTT: All RTM channels upgrades to HD on earlier April, hence all channels migrates into another frequency, which is Mux 2.

Result:
Error 404. Content not found, because nothing happen. bangwall.gif

MYTV myFreeview did not inform to the viewers that viewers are required to perform auto scan (or manual scan) on their TV sets or DVB-T2 box, especially those who didn't use MYTV branded DVB-T2 box.
Until the public turn chaos, customer service hotline and Facebook page are flooded with queries, wondering why all RTM channels becomes "No Signal" out of the blue, then only they advise viewer to perform auto scan few days later on its Facebook page.

This is just like:

Viewers: ranting.gif ranting.gif ranting.gif

MYTV myFreeview: cool2.gif cool2.gif cool2.gif

In conclusion, when there's such issue like this, they expect customer to call them and ask first, then only advise them what to do.
Inform the public on social media? No hurry la... Do it few days later also nvm.
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QUOTE(chuppachop @ Nov 28 2019, 03:31 PM)
@ joshhd, it was in SD quality even after RTM upgraded to HD ..... but you are right, seems like SH can't receive it for free and offered it, lol:

https://www.starhub.com/personal/support/se...ls/rtm-tv1.html
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RTM TV1 (Ch 178) is a free-to-air channel provided by Malaysia government.
It has recently shifted from analogue to digital transmission and unfortunately due to signal issue with the source feed that is beyond our control, we are no longer able to re-broadcast RTM TV1 (Ch 178) on our TV platform.
Oh... If liddat, they confirm receive it from Measat 3's C band satellite. No doubt... tongue.gif
Just use UHF antenna to receive la, settle cool2.gif
After all, I don't think it is wise for Starhub to rebroadcast Malaysia's TV1 to customers, since Singaporeans can access to the channel on DTT platform for free.

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