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 Wahed Invest Malaysia, Good, Ok2, Bad?

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Leo the Lion
post Mar 14 2020, 11:36 AM

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QUOTE(yklooi @ Mar 14 2020, 12:28 PM)
thanks for that pointers.
with that, investors can literally "time" the buying in Wahed?
having knowing when the buying price would be lower or higher before buying?
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No you cant time it, literally. You may able to time the day.
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post Mar 14 2020, 11:50 AM

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QUOTE(Leo the Lion @ Mar 14 2020, 11:36 AM)
No you cant time it, literally. You may able to time the day.
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so can still time the day when to buy or sell by looking at the variance of the NAV and the PRICE from the link above?
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post Mar 14 2020, 11:54 AM

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QUOTE(yklooi @ Mar 14 2020, 12:50 PM)
so can still time the day when to buy or sell by looking at the variance of the NAV and the PRICE from the link above?
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You just need to see how long Wahed complete the buy/sell. That way you can time the day. But to exactly time the specific time with Wahed, its impossible.
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post Mar 14 2020, 11:59 AM

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QUOTE(Leo the Lion @ Mar 14 2020, 11:54 AM)
You just need to see how long Wahed complete the buy/sell. That way you can time the day. But to exactly time the specific time with Wahed, its impossible.
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OK, thanks for the replies...
thus it is actually no beneficial gains to know about this then
doh.gif I thought can "time" the buy/sell....


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Because for the MyETF Dow Jones US50, you can see a big gap between the NAV and the price (1.0410 NAV vs 1.23 Price). Wahed calculate based on the price.

The current drop is because the price drop from 1.37 to 1.23.

Current NAV (1.0410): https://www.myetf.com.my/en/MyETF-Series/My...rical-NAV-Price
Current Price (1.23): https://www.bloomberg.com/quote/METFUS50:MK
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post Mar 14 2020, 12:02 PM

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QUOTE(yklooi @ Mar 14 2020, 11:59 AM)
OK, thanks for the replies...
thus it is actually no beneficial gains to know about this then
doh.gif I thought can "time" the buy/sell....
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if you want to time your investments then go play with the stock market or buy the ETFs directly.
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post Mar 14 2020, 12:05 PM

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QUOTE(zstan @ Mar 14 2020, 12:02 PM)
if you want to time your investments then go play with the stock market or buy the ETFs directly.
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play with the stock market or buy the ETFs directly, can time the investment?
tell me more how to time it?
yes I want to time it in advance.
thanks

hmm.gif that means those that trade stocks or ETF will NEVER loss money already?

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post Mar 14 2020, 12:08 PM

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QUOTE(yklooi @ Mar 14 2020, 12:05 PM)
play with the stock market or buy the ETFs directly, can time the investment?
tell me more how to time it?
yes I want to time it in advance.
thanks
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Stock market opens at 9 am. You see the price. You happy. You buy. You get the stocks immediately.

Roboadvisor you deposit money, by the time it reaches your account, the price may be different already.
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post Mar 14 2020, 12:08 PM

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QUOTE(yklooi @ Mar 14 2020, 11:59 AM)
OK, thanks for the replies...
thus it is actually no beneficial gains to know about this then
doh.gif I thought can "time" the buy/sell....
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It is beneficial, it indicates whether it's a good time to buy or not.

If you see a wide margin between the NAV and the price, then its not a good time to buy because the price is expected to follow in line with the NAV.

The only problem is we don't know how long does it take for Wahed to buy the share from the moment we deposit our money. It could the same day or maybe 3 days difference.

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post Mar 14 2020, 12:11 PM

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QUOTE(zstan @ Mar 14 2020, 12:08 PM)
Stock market opens at 9 am. You see the price. You happy. You buy. You get the stocks immediately.

Roboadvisor you deposit money, by the time it reaches your account, the price may be different already.
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oh this "transaction time", not time to be able to buy lower or sell higher
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post Mar 14 2020, 12:12 PM

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QUOTE(Assassin's @ Mar 14 2020, 12:08 PM)
It is beneficial, it indicates whether it's a good time to buy or not.

If you see a wide margin between the NAV and the price, then its not a good time to buy because the price is expected to follow in line with the NAV.

The only problem is we don't know how long does it take for Wahed to buy the share from the moment we deposit our money. It could the same day or maybe 3 days difference.
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thumbsup.gif points noted again...
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post Mar 15 2020, 11:17 AM

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Wahed fees is charged per month or during transaction buy/sell?
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QUOTE(ericlaiys @ Mar 15 2020, 12:17 PM)
Wahed fees is charged per month or during transaction buy/sell?
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charge per month.
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QUOTE(Leo the Lion @ Mar 15 2020, 11:52 AM)
charge per month.
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percentage?
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post Mar 15 2020, 12:30 PM

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QUOTE(ericlaiys @ Mar 15 2020, 01:25 PM)
percentage?
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0.99% per year (if you invest between RM100-249,999). So that's 0.0825% per month. You can read more about in the article that I wrote in my previous post.

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Do you guys cut ur loss already?
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QUOTE(epie @ Mar 18 2020, 04:55 PM)
Do you guys cut ur loss already?
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nope. still holding
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post Mar 19 2020, 09:58 AM

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post Mar 19 2020, 10:10 AM

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QUOTE(GrumpyNooby @ Mar 19 2020, 10:10 AM)
-2.1%
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I down almost 5 percent d. see how it goes
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