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CRAFT_COACH
post Oct 31 2019, 11:33 AM

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QUOTE(Duperaider @ Oct 30 2019, 06:59 PM)
Lol you generalise first, yes, I am aware of your lengthy post,

TAKE NOTE I just wanted to highlight that medications given out by tcm doctors are registered with bpfk, this time I make it clear, tcm from tungshin lol

Actually, it seems that your knowledge about tcm is only about mixing herbs, which in actual terms is waaasay more than that.

As fur myself, I do have registered tcm products with bpfk, not too sure about you

Take it easy bro, TCM might bit be your cup of tea, but it works fine for so many other ppl lol

Chilax bro
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its seems u have bias & are making subjective statements with only anecdotal evidence.

worse, u seem to have missed my point/objective completely despite having 'read' the 'long' post.

worse still, u were selectively cherry picking statements & twisting it to adhere to ur (erroneous) narrative - even then, u got it wrong. no quoting of actual hard facts to back up ur claims & a seeming disregard of the objective way my points were put forth (neither pro or against, just cautioning wateva course of action to be taken). ur statements are so filled with erroneous generalizing, over simplifications, outright misquotes, etc that it would take too long to actually address each of them, even if i was so inclined.

and your statements 'to chill', etc come across as being condescending. forums are meant for exchanging ideas/viewpoints objectively. being threatened when ur view is challenged & resorting to anecdotal statements and personal attacks is unscientific.

here are my hard and verifiable facts:

for every this >
http://tcm.moh.gov.my/en/

https://www.thestar.com.my/opinion/letters/...d-out-in-phases

there are also this >
https://www.malaymail.com/news/malaysia/201...n-leave/1100841

https://www.forbes.com/sites/stevensalzberg...e/#24f6cdbf6418

https://www.forbes.com/sites/jamesconca/201...r/#273708685bd3

... to counter ur anecdotal 'evidence', 3 data backed paragraphs from the above are of particular note:

1) "the major motivation for TCM is money:

"[China] has been aggressively promoting TCM on the international stage both for expanding its global influence and for a share of the estimated US$50-billion global market.""

2) "Critics view TCM practices as unscientific, unsupported by clinical trials, and sometimes dangerous: China’s drug regulator gets more than 230,000 reports of adverse effects from TCM each year."

3) "As the Nature article points out, TCM has been a scam for decades: it was revived and heavily promoted in China by former dictator Mao Zedong, who didn't believe in it himself, but pushed it as a cheap alternative to real medicine. I won't go over that again here, but see these stories from Alan Levinovitz in Slate and David Gorski at Science-based Medicine."

... so recommending alt therapies vs conventional ones should come with a HUGE caveat - it is def riskier due to the lax regulations and untested long terms effects. I MAKE NO MENTION WHATSOEVER OF ITS EFFICACY - thats not my concern.

with that said, this will be my last post here. i'm not inclined to waste my limited post allotments debating biased/close mindedness further.

original objective was to aid a parent in distress - i believe ts has enough prelim info to objectively decide next course of action. can pm me if want referral to a qualified pediatrician. i will not be further visiting this topic. gecmis olsum.


Duperaider
post Oct 31 2019, 11:51 AM

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QUOTE(CRAFT_COACH @ Oct 31 2019, 11:33 AM)
its seems u have bias & are making subjective statements with only anecdotal evidence.

worse, u seem to have missed my point/objective completely despite having 'read' the 'long' post.

worse still, u were selectively cherry picking statements & twisting it to adhere to ur (erroneous) narrative - even then, u got it wrong. no quoting of actual hard facts to back up ur claims & a seeming disregard of the objective way my points were put forth (neither pro or against, just cautioning wateva course of action to be taken). ur statements are so filled with erroneous generalizing, over simplifications, outright misquotes, etc that it would take too long to actually address each of them, even if i was so inclined.

and your statements 'to chill', etc come across as being condescending. forums are meant for exchanging ideas/viewpoints objectively. being threatened when ur view is challenged & resorting to anecdotal statements and personal attacks is unscientific.

here are my hard and verifiable facts:

for every this >
http://tcm.moh.gov.my/en/

https://www.thestar.com.my/opinion/letters/...d-out-in-phases

there are also this >
https://www.malaymail.com/news/malaysia/201...n-leave/1100841

https://www.forbes.com/sites/stevensalzberg...e/#24f6cdbf6418

https://www.forbes.com/sites/jamesconca/201...r/#273708685bd3

... to counter ur anecdotal 'evidence', 3 data backed paragraphs from the above are of particular note:

1) "the major motivation for TCM is money:

"[China] has been aggressively promoting TCM on the international stage both for expanding its global influence and for a share of the estimated US$50-billion global market.""

2) "Critics view TCM practices as unscientific, unsupported by clinical trials, and sometimes dangerous: China’s drug regulator gets more than 230,000 reports of adverse effects from TCM each year."

3) "As the Nature article points out, TCM has been a scam for decades: it was revived and heavily promoted in China by former dictator Mao Zedong, who didn't believe in it himself, but pushed it as a cheap alternative to real medicine. I won't go over that again here, but see these stories from Alan Levinovitz in Slate and David Gorski at Science-based Medicine."

... so recommending alt therapies vs conventional ones should come with a HUGE caveat - it is def riskier due to the lax regulations and untested long terms effects. I MAKE NO MENTION WHATSOEVER OF ITS EFFICACY - thats not my concern.

with that said, this will be my last post here. i'm not inclined to waste my limited post allotments debating biased/close mindedness further.
   
original objective was to aid a parent in distress - i believe ts has enough prelim info to objectively decide next course of action. can pm me if want referral to a qualified pediatrician. i will not be further visiting this topic. gecmis olsum.
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LOL, rant as hard as you want TCM still rocks and with more products being registered via BPFK being prescribed to more patients, there is aint no shit you can do about it LOL

Have a nice day,..... nope, have a nice rant! LOL

zstan
post Oct 31 2019, 11:55 AM

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Definitely seek a 3rd opinion, or visit a government hospital for a change.
danieln
post Oct 31 2019, 12:00 PM

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well if you are the superstitious type then go ask from some bomoh or temple medium

back on track. It could be allergy also. you may need to do test on his food. My doctor once thought me.

first you will have to filter out all food & keep a record.

EG: give him only eggs for few days and see any changes. then next add on 2nd time.. and so on. Its a long process but you will need to know if there is allergy issue

other than food, check around for any environment allergy causes too.

my small one also have been sick frequently and we decided to give me consistent pro-biotics & protein and there is great improvement to her health now.

hope this helps. and all the best
lil_flank
post Oct 31 2019, 09:09 PM

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It seems like your child is teething. Teething will cause fever on amd off.
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post Nov 6 2019, 04:28 PM

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Hello guys,

thank you so much for all the replies (although some were arguments)

Anyway, my apologies for the late reply as I was away.

I brought my son to Prince Court and identified the sickness

It was lungs infection (forgotten the scientific term) - It wasn't Pneumococcal

Dr Sharmila Kylasam is a very good Paed with a spot-on instinct

The moment we stepped into her room > she just looked at the way my son breathing and listen to our story > 10 mins thinking > Straight to Lung X-trays > Voila! both lungs were infected

Treated with antibiotics, nebulizer and Iv drips - My son is back to normal condition within 3 days.

Prince Court fees are not that expensive after all (I tot it was more expensive than Gleneagles)

Consultation at around MYR 130 which is a very fair price

All in we spent around 4K for 3d2n admission which is a very fair price as well

Anyway, thank you for your concerns and I recommend Dr Sharmila to the parents out there.

Peace out

This post has been edited by CommonPeople: Nov 6 2019, 04:30 PM
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post Nov 8 2019, 01:23 AM

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QUOTE(CommonPeople @ Nov 6 2019, 04:28 PM)
Hello guys,

thank you so much for all the replies (although some were arguments)

Anyway, my apologies for the late reply as I was away.

I brought my son to Prince Court and identified the sickness

It was lungs infection (forgotten the scientific term) - It wasn't Pneumococcal

Dr Sharmila Kylasam is a very good Paed with a spot-on instinct

The moment we stepped into her room > she just looked at the way my son breathing and listen to our story > 10 mins thinking > Straight to Lung X-trays > Voila! both lungs were infected

Treated with antibiotics, nebulizer and Iv drips - My son is back to normal condition within 3 days.

Prince Court fees are not that expensive after all (I tot it was more expensive than Gleneagles)

Consultation at around MYR 130 which is a very fair price

All in we spent around 4K for 3d2n admission which is a very fair price as well

Anyway, thank you for your concerns and I recommend Dr Sharmila to the parents out there.

Peace out
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Thanks for the update

Try to avoid having your child getting near ppl who cough.
kohchuup
post Nov 12 2019, 02:57 PM

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glad to hear ur son are ok
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post Nov 19 2019, 08:58 AM

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Mostly cleanliness. My daughter also had similar problem for about 2-3weeks. We found out the milk bottle was not properly cleaned by the nanny and of course she kena sound by me kaw kaw. We bought the bottle soap and brush but she never used it!

 

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