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post Oct 11 2019, 02:14 PM, updated 7y ago

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hello gang, how to differentiate real vs fake rims ? specifically for OZ rims. Help much appreciated
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post Oct 16 2019, 11:25 PM

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I think it is better to use stock rim if really cant afford real original rim unless you can get the good quality replica rim.

When people change rim normally is want to increase the size of the rim and tyre. Example upgrade 15" rim to 17" rim to increase car stability and car. Another reason is make the car look good.

The cons of having bigger size rim is it cost much on the tyre replacement.
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post Oct 17 2019, 01:24 AM

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For almost all replica rim you don’t know who is the factory, and without knowing the factory you wouldn’t know the quality. And the factory won’t care about quality too since you can’t trace it back to them if the rims fail, and you don’t know whether the rims were tested properly.

A manufacturer like Enkei, you know for sure it is tested for QC, because the factory is known and they can and will be held accountable.

Are there good replica rims? Don’t know. Because don’t know if they were certified, or tested. Just because your friend use and there’s no problem, doesn’t mean it’s good. Who knows maybe tested it will fail.
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post Oct 17 2019, 06:34 AM

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nowadays better to just go for mid range brands like Advanti , lenso , they are so affordable and even utilize flow forming technology already and they aren't exactly shy at replicating popular designs also

no reason to get 100% fakes

This post has been edited by rcracer: Oct 17 2019, 07:35 PM
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post Oct 17 2019, 06:43 AM

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Don't forget lock nut to protect ur rim from getting stolen
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post Oct 17 2019, 07:37 AM

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QUOTE(russthedood @ Oct 11 2019, 02:14 PM)
hello gang, how to differentiate real vs fake rims ? specifically for OZ rims. Help much appreciated
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Fake rim are lookalike, quality so much different, of course look at the sign 'made in Italy', quality of the center cap, rim weight, warranty card, but still not 100% sure, that's why must buy from reputable shop, not individual seller.

QUOTE(MX510 @ Oct 17 2019, 06:43 AM)
Don't forget lock nut to protect ur rim from getting stolen
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Lock nut is good to have, this can prolong the stolen time, say additional 15 second per wheel. smile.gif
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post Oct 17 2019, 09:22 AM

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IMHO, i don't think there are any fake rims unless it is the tire shop who is trying to cheat the customers.

A cousin of mine used to work for a rim manufacturer and she told me the factory has several brands and also the OEM for other brands who contract with them.
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post Oct 17 2019, 11:26 AM

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most of the cheap rims selling by local shops are copy ori, ussualy the seller tell truth its a replica rim... yes, rims like advanti is midrange brand.. that ussualy will be genuine ones. The price will be slightly higher then replica's. Many rims in malaysia are imported from taiwan/thailand
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post Oct 17 2019, 11:37 AM

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QUOTE(rcracer @ Oct 17 2019, 06:34 AM)
nowadays better to just go for mid range brands like Advanti , lenso , they are so affordable and even utilize flow forming technology already and they aren't exactly why at replicating popular designs also

no reason to get 100% fakes
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This. Konig is another good brand. If you really want the replica JDM designs, look for the original auto options from Thailand. I’ve used Advanti, Konig and Auto Options, all have never failed me and overall great quality for the price I’ve paid.
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post Oct 18 2019, 11:24 AM

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why so many people answer whatever they like without making sense of what the OP is asking.

He asking how to differentiate between the rims, not even saying he wanted to buy fake rims. if anything, i think he is trying to make sure that he gets the authentic stuff.

Other than buying from a reputable shop, you can also look at the quality of the rims. Typically fakes are not as well finished and comes with indistinct stamping. but i don't know about the current situation to how good the fakers are as their technique might have improved. about 4 to 5 years back the differences are still very noticeable even to untrained eyes.

Also depends on the car you drive too, if your rim size is rare then there is a less chance to come across fakes.
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post Oct 19 2019, 01:45 AM

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For my case, I'm having original advan rg2 on my car. I looked around and can see plenty of replicas based on the rg2.

Usually the replicas look similar from afar but you can tell something is off for example the spokes are thicker, the color does not match and the wording/stamping etc.

If you are buying from shop, take a look at the backside of the wheel as well. Usually there will be stamping such as Made In Japan/ Made in Italy instead of Japan Design/Japan Technology.

Also there should be stickers stating the wheel specs, production date and other info (depending on manufacturers).

If everything matches what you see from the manufacturer's website, it should be the genuine one. I don't know if anyone produces 100% similar replica and distribute them openly without getting into trouble.
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post Oct 19 2019, 02:04 AM

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QUOTE(jameslow @ Oct 17 2019, 07:37 AM)
Fake rim are lookalike, quality so much different, of course look at the sign 'made in Italy', quality of the center cap, rim weight, warranty card, but still not 100% sure, that's why must buy from reputable shop, not individual seller.
Lock nut is good to have, this can prolong the stolen time, say additional 15 second per wheel. smile.gif
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Good luck with that additional 15 seconds on my wheels. Going to a proper tyre shop with tools and a welder would take 30 minutes per wheel.

Don’t buy real rims and fake shitty lock nuts
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post Oct 19 2019, 03:22 PM

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QUOTE(Karenalvin @ Oct 18 2019, 11:24 AM)
why so many people answer whatever they like without making sense of what the OP is asking.

He asking how to differentiate between the rims, not even saying he wanted to buy fake rims. if anything, i think he is trying to make sure that he gets the authentic stuff.

Other than buying from a reputable shop, you can also look at the quality of the rims. Typically fakes are not as well finished and comes with indistinct stamping. but i don't know about the current situation to how good the fakers are as their technique might have improved. about 4 to 5 years back the differences are still very noticeable even to untrained eyes.

Also depends on the car you drive too, if your rim size is rare then there is a less chance to come across fakes.
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They're getting better and better now. The paint and finishing have become good and the weight also gets lighter and closer to original flow forming type rims even though still cannot match those super light forged type.
Long time ago, the weight differences were much more noticeable. For example the Thai CE28 that came with my Evo. For size 18x9.5, the weight is not as bad as I thought at 10kg. I was expecting it to be around 12kg. In comparison, the original Racing Hart that I use now at size 18x9 using MAT technology like Enkei is at 9kg. Of course compared with the original forged CE28, then the weight is much more noticeable.
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post Oct 19 2019, 03:28 PM

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It is quite easy. For example, the latest 18" TC105x. Fake rims will be above 10kg while ori is about 7+ to 8kg. Oz rims, if it is a high end model (except the rally rims), a 18" model will not be more than 9kg.
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post Oct 19 2019, 03:30 PM

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QUOTE(Jason @ Oct 19 2019, 02:04 AM)
Good luck with that additional 15 seconds on my wheels. Going to a proper tyre shop with tools and a welder would take 30 minutes per wheel.

Don’t buy real rims and fake shitty lock nuts
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wat? need to weld? u duno car thieves hav the same lock nut keys just as u do, they just need to trial n error until get the correct one, yes it take time but definitely wont take 30 mins n dont need 'advance tools" n welder
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post Oct 19 2019, 07:16 PM

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OEM, stock or even as some suggested some decent brands, because fake or low quality rims can break when you go over a hole and leave you with a massive bill.

Another thing is that increasing the rim size may make it worse over pot holes, and bigger tyres (from rim to edge) helps over bad roads.
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post Oct 19 2019, 08:00 PM

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Dear TS, if you want to identify original & fake wheels, do a little study by yourself. The general way is to identify markings on the back of the wheels. Stickers on the wheel or box. Those are the general ways. These days replica wheel makers does not include certification stamp markings that comes with genuine wheels. TUV for German, JIS for Japan, etc. And all of them differ from one model to another.

Some may be stamped on the wheel hub/ core. Some on the spokes or the barrel. So if you identify one wheel that you like and wish to buy, keep a track of these and when you go to shop, do checklist of these. No way you can tell just from pictures.

Another giveaway is the price. A set of RM 10000 wheel will not cost RM 2000 no matter what excuse the seller gives.

Also original factory wheels are really good. Even if most of them are ugly.



This post has been edited by netmatrix: Oct 19 2019, 08:02 PM
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post Oct 19 2019, 08:00 PM

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Depends if ure driving a economy car for daily you don't need semi forged original rims, but your better of buying enkei which is bit heavier and slightly more expensive then quality fakes.

But end of the day ur pocket determines what you can afford cuz those fake rims are stylo but hit a pot hole they will crack, imagine that happens at highway speeds....

But if u drive slow and u money is tight stylo fakies are a OK ymmv

This post has been edited by Fenix98: Oct 19 2019, 08:01 PM

 

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