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English Clubs Manchester United Street Talks, Burnley 0 Man Utd 2

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aaron1717
post Nov 25 2019, 10:57 AM

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QUOTE(O-haiyo @ Nov 25 2019, 10:37 AM)
Our 2 CMs got choked easily when pressed. Can't even pass the ball forward
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one of them not actually CM also... he is functionable at the front to press the opposite defenders... to put him at the crowded midfield battle is like asking fish to run on a land... lol... i think fred is trying his best cover everywhere... but he is just so helpless alone...

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post Nov 25 2019, 12:29 PM

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QUOTE(silvertoes @ Nov 25 2019, 11:50 AM)
got two weeks to prep for this match and United only play good for 7 minutes.. the whole 1st half like not playing at all..

cant expect much on the upcoming big matches.. City n JM Spurs wont show mercy..
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usually will do well with big matches aiming for a draw... but we need mcsauce the destroyer... or try james garner for astaka and aston villa first... if he is ready for first team... then slot him in straight for big matches unless mcsauce can make it back...
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QUOTE(zhou.xingxing @ Nov 25 2019, 12:31 PM)
scot t out how long ah
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last time rumors 8 weeks.... now 2 more weeks... hopefully back before spurs and man city game... our CM area reli paper thin... only mcsauce pogba and fred as first team... matic seems like totally out of ole plan... not even in the subs... and AP forced to assume roles he nt supposed to play at... so hopefully garner can step up... half of next carrick also better than nth... doubt we will be able to buy any CM during jan anyway

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QUOTE(skyblu3 @ Nov 25 2019, 01:51 PM)
How many months already, still rebuilding ?
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should ask this way... which year are we Really rebuilding? from moyes to LVG to Jomo also more like plug the leakages here and there rather than rebuilding... lol... even now also if we gonna sack ole again... rebuilding reset again with our new next coach.... laugh.gif laugh.gif
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post Nov 25 2019, 02:15 PM

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QUOTE(yhtan @ Nov 25 2019, 02:11 PM)
U think to clean up the dressing room and player can be done within 1 year kah. Dressing room situation is the reason why Jose was asked to leave, Ole knew that and slowly clean it up and insert the player which he trust and build around with.

If Ole was so bad in tactically, then why we manage to draw with Liverpool while other big team kena slaughter? hmm.gif
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just like poch... ole gonna be scapegoat when all shits happened... padahal... ole only able get like 30% of the players he wanted... and for the club he really loved... he just suck it up only when woodward say no to the rest.... and have to force to work miracle with a team of injured players and deadwoods....
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post Nov 25 2019, 02:21 PM

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QUOTE(yhtan @ Nov 25 2019, 02:18 PM)
If fans here mau cakap about fact, this summer transfer is 100% good, no flop. Maguire, Wan Bissaka and Daniel James. I didn't expect James to have that impact on first season tbh.

Now that winter transfer windows coming up, i'm sure Ole will seek for enhancement on midfield and striker. If wasn't Ole, Brendon williams won't have his chance proving his right at LB and ditch Young. laugh.gif
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yea.. in term of the new additions he gotten this season... im good with them... imagine if ole can get all the players he wanted during summer... it will be diff story than now... but still with williams mcsauce this season... there is still some positive spark over the doom and gloom time... if it was Jomo last year... this game would have ended in 3-0 and still playing defensive formation...
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QUOTE(hehe86 @ Nov 25 2019, 03:18 PM)


Basically what he was saying is that Ole was clueless. Players were freestyling, play how they want instead of ole's tactics. If Ole was not clueless, he wouldn't started with 3 CBs and subbed in Tuanzebe.

Another fan was saying, we started with only 2 midfileders (fred,AP), that was why our midfield sucks but got better when Lingard was subbed in. Then it was Martial who's the only player that able to hold the ball better to link it with other players. The fan also said Ole maybe dun even know what gotten him the 3 goals because that could be the only reason why he subbed out Martial.
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he is clueless in the sense that why play 3 CB against sheffield... i think if we put garner fred and AM put AP... we will still have something to disrupt their midfield from doing work so effortlessly... and the sad thing is our 3rd CB is jones who doesnt seems like even match fit compare to tuanzebe who just come back from injury... if we have rojo as our 3rd CB... i think he will do better job than Jones...
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QUOTE(IpohGuyz @ Nov 25 2019, 04:26 PM)
yalor, i will be disappointed if ole get sacked and replace with poch within 1 year. i think he got too much barracking and too few credits from disgrunted fans.
have to agree some of his tactical fail big time in certain matches, especially to non big name team. his stubbornness on young, rashford as no9, jlingz early of the season cost us alot of points.

but, if he is that bad tactically, should have been trashed by top6 opponent. In fact, we never lose to them. totally outplayed liverpool, nearly beat arsenal as well. and we beat chelsea twice already. all the summer buys are very good. Maguire still not sure haha. 80M and concede 3 goals yesterday. But 2 from amatuer individual mistake.

most of the goals we give in are individual mistakes (lindelof early of the season, now latest ap + jones). of course the tactic fail miserably yesterday, so he better learn and improve. and too late to react with subs when game really need some change.

if next epl match he starts young again, then really  bangwall.gif
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we cant judge maguire this way when he having a hilarious CB partner in the form of jones... and the almost non existent midfield in front of him... even those days when fabinho and henderson not functioning in front van dijk... he also kena kelong all the time... tambah when his CB partner in the form of lovren that time...
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QUOTE(sonicbull @ Nov 26 2019, 08:50 AM)
Every top team has good DM. Fabinho, rodri, busquet, kante, ndidi to protect the back four. At utd we don't have such played except Matic.

The importance of Feillani and Herrera are missed. Always talk about attacking football when the midfield battle is already lost on paper. Scott plays 110% for us and now injured because of overplayed.

Look at our conceded goals against Sheffield Utd. The goals are from AWB and Maguire side. They both improve the team but they are not Superman and effectiveness limited by ole tactics
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agree bro... those days where barca RM dominated european football with busquet and casemiro at the top of their game... when these two players loss of form or getting old... u will realize their defenders are just nobody in the eyes of the opponent... for us herrera left really hit us real bad... imagine we have herrera + scott this season... the midfield battle would not have lose this badly... now herrera just a bench-warmer at PSG... wasted...
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QUOTE(zhou.xingxing @ Nov 26 2019, 11:07 AM)
some say herrera just average player. but the effect of not replacing him now is coming in  console.gif
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for me... he has always been like a vidal to us since Jomo time... when matic and him is on form that time... pogba was utilized to greatest effect... during the 13 matches unbeaten run last season under ole... this was how the trio able to boss the midfield... until herrera and matic injured after being overplayed... we lose like shit til now... our biggest hope now is... hopefully scott and fred play and gel better... so that pogba once come back able to roam freely like he used to be instead of putting him beside scott as DM...
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QUOTE(sonicbull @ Nov 26 2019, 04:13 PM)

Thanks. Not many agree with me...

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look at the performance of varane and ramos after casemiro and co dropped of form... from world cup winning defender to no one wanna bid CB.... laugh.gif laugh.gif
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post Nov 26 2019, 05:42 PM

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QUOTE(yujirorasy @ Nov 26 2019, 05:08 PM)
he is very good and brutal defensively but his negative play, always back pass to the defender even though no one near him always annoy me to the max.
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during ole 13 unbeaten time... his passing forward improved alot... created alot of chances for the forwards as well.... however during Jomo time... his playing style boring like henderson... but still defensively on top with his heart playing for the club....
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post Nov 27 2019, 11:49 AM

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hopefully the fans not so harsh to the youngsters if they really loss to astana...

but hey... with the 27 years old youth prospect lingardinho in the squad... what could go wrong... even rashford also not consider as youth anymore... lol
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QUOTE(zhou.xingxing @ Nov 27 2019, 11:53 AM)
damn. ole reli consider him as wonderkid
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a kid will always be a kid in a dad's eyes... lol... others already grown up in the eyes of ole except for lingard je... doh.gif doh.gif
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post Nov 27 2019, 02:55 PM

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QUOTE(sonicbull @ Nov 27 2019, 02:06 PM)
I read lingard created the most Chances against Sheffield utd
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too bad no direct assist or goal.... haiz.... rashford play how bad also consider as the most on form striker right now... lol doh.gif doh.gif

QUOTE(limjenson @ Nov 27 2019, 02:37 PM)
You forgot young.
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his name makes him looks like a wonderkid all the time.... cool2.gif cool2.gif
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QUOTE(sonicbull @ Nov 28 2019, 12:20 AM)

When no assist or goal, need to see tactics and players ability. Is there any runners in the first place that creates space for himself or teammates to receive the ball?

I watched Spurs game for 45mins, dele has attempted so many through passes even when West Ham plays defensively

Rashford only performs consistently when martial or Pogba in the team. Himself alone, I can see him getting called out as 'trashford' in Twitter by fans

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well by the time he is in... we indeed have slightly more control of the game... as his typical running headless works in forcing the opponent midfield to make mistakes or get intercepted... but the main problem relies on how confidence is him to create anything with the ball at his leg... his long range shooting are all not on target... and he is not dare to make any through passes recently... dele has been picking up his confidence back recent weeks combine with clinical son and kane as his teammate... this season even daniel james have more assist than lingardinho...
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QUOTE(zhou.xingxing @ Nov 28 2019, 09:12 AM)
ole told shaw williams is ahead of him now. young and lingard how... sub in when we need a goal?
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shaw need to maintain his fitness seriously... every season main less than 20 games... very headache for us... just like heinze last time... eventually gt replaced by evra easily... difference is shaw get to stay in man utd for few seasons to date... lol... lets see how williams perform this whole season to see whether we need to buy a new LB or not... we still have the 'chill all the time' cameron borthwick in our books...
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QUOTE(limjenson @ Nov 28 2019, 11:35 AM)
Shaw fallen down the pecking order to play with kids. Williams is our defector no 1
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when fitness is a main issue... eventually u will become invisible... macam owen hargreaves, danny welbeck those days... haiz.. shaw still so young... but no one rate him anymore...
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QUOTE(IpohGuyz @ Nov 28 2019, 12:31 PM)
i still remember owen hargreaves contribution. play very little but 80% freekick also masuk!
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yea... but will not be the manager first name in first team squad anymore... more like a rotation player as time goes by
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QUOTE(zhou.xingxing @ Nov 28 2019, 05:32 PM)
hargreaves contribution diff from welbeck le. tbf i feel 2008 he was a key in the team. the DM we needed after a long time... but too bad injured. welbeck tu... is a poor mans lingard owai
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at least he dapat offer to beli from arsenal... lingard... offer bayang pun takde... doh.gif doh.gif

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