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aaron1717
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 Dec 2 2019, 12:34 PM
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QUOTE(bansai @ Dec 2 2019, 12:10 PM) True. But have to see what managers are available. Some goods one are still there now. And don't let ole spend too much in Jan. Based on how much is used, we will know whether he is gone or staying. see kayu wanna let go his meat shield or not... ole like the best meat shield that wont talk bad about the board... lol... if goreng him... other coach cant guarantee will stay silent...  ole alr ask for midfield reinforcement... but kayu die2 mau reject... ole still save his muka say he sendiri can manage even tak de new purchase...  |
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aaron1717
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Dec 2 2019, 02:26 PM
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QUOTE(zhou.xingxing @ Dec 2 2019, 01:46 PM) should have been sacked like 1 month ago imo. the results are not showing. and no signs of recovering. he stil in the job cause of his status as a player only. problem is bearing with him cause no suitable candidates available is a joke. cant use that excuse to tolerate mediocrity. if you cant deliver you leave. gnev knows as a player. hope ole knows as a manager too. poch wont be able to join this mid season. at least an interim manager can give something else. good or bad we can only know when we appoint a new interim manager but highly likely non can take over this squad to do magic... anyone who come in after this get pogba and mcsauce... coincidentally perform better also not fair lol...  not like jomo final season... obviously pogba matic etc not interested to play for him... pogba obviously played best at further up like dele alli... but this earlier season ole put him back at CDM because sold herrera but not replaced...  |
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aaron1717
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Dec 2 2019, 02:33 PM
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QUOTE(zhou.xingxing @ Dec 2 2019, 02:29 PM) we are jus 6 points above the relegation zone. and we can keep ole and hope for miracle or try someone else. life is tough bro this season... totally kick players out but only 3 come in... transfer window in july actually consider a disaster... and EPL damn stupid to make it shorter than other leagues... alot factors here... but i guess ole have to take all the blames for now... hopefully we can some other coach which focus on youth development in future...  |
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aaron1717
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Dec 2 2019, 04:38 PM
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lol during moyes last days... this guy is delusional and clueless... during LVG last days... same comments from fans... during moyes last days... also same comments... got which coaches in the past after SAF era are generally not supposed to sack one lol? gt which coach to date are not delusional and clueless one when hampir kena goreng... haha... same applies to SAF when fans cant even tahan him when man utd was at the bottom half of the table... and almost got sacked...
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aaron1717
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Dec 2 2019, 06:21 PM
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QUOTE(orga_laut @ Dec 2 2019, 06:05 PM) are u in weeds? or just came out of the cave? why do u said "same applies ti SAF"?? SAF already won uefa with aberdeen. he broke the rangers-celtic monopoly. are u fuking drunk? the reason he didnt get sacked is because he fuck all the drunken boys and change the attitude of that current team. no player is bigger than the club. and for a result, yes.. 2nd place on full season with an FA cup on 11th .. cup winners cup the following season.. damn it look at ole the clueless.. come on the board made a blunder, ole is not good enough. gnev delusional. his gang of pundits are delusional. sick man.. so sick want to compare with SAF.. long way to go. not even close to SAF at the 80s! maybe im a bit too much. but enough is enough for ole. let the real manager lead MU. give moyes or lvg or jose 6 seasons like SAF is better than ole the clueless. rebuilding around pogba shit. thanks for the weed bro and the wine bro...  what he did with aberdeen is not my main point here... guess u did not really go through what happened to SAF at MAN UTD those times when we just reach the top english league... how the fans comment on him before his 'almost departure' then when we are closer to relegation zone... what you saw is what he did after he almost got sacked and come back up... im not supporting ole here... in fact none of the managers since SAF gotten my support as i am not excited with all of their appointments and they somewhat prove me right... what im saying are fans like you who thought by changing manager year after year is the correct thing to do... no one knows what IF jomo has stayed, of what IF LVG has stayed... SAF is a result of realization he WAS able to stay beyond almost gotten sacked... everyone try to rebuild around some shits... moyes try rebuild around fellaini or januzaj... lvg try to rebuild around rooney... jomo did try rebuild around pogba too as he would never get rid of pogba... and where were they positioned before gotten sacked? every coach once got branded delusional and clueless by the fans too... so with your road of thought... might as well just change the coach every season or every half season shall we? since the FUCKING same board going to in charge for the foreseeable future anyway... all the coaches are the result of their blunder, why target at ole only now? anyway... thanks for the weed and wine... fuhh~~  |
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aaron1717
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Dec 2 2019, 06:40 PM
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QUOTE(orga_laut @ Dec 2 2019, 06:34 PM) give someone that 'already there' more time is better than ole... ole is an unfinished product. he was there as a player. not as a manager. he is clueless. sacking a manager is not a solution, but SACKING OLE IS THE SOLUTION. hire a much much much experienced manager that has been 'THERE', A WINNER .. a manager who have the experience to had drived a team to be champions. and then put believe in him like u believe in OLE is the correct direction. kick lvg and jose was a very very bad decision, now kick ole out, hire a more experience manager and keep him for longer seasons. no disrespect to ole fans but WAKE THE FUCK UP ...ugh.. just too bad... at current juncture... we wont see any WINNER manager that we will be keeping for long... we see the results of LVG and JOMO... after ole... the next WINNER manager may win us something during first season... and got sacked the second season... the board is like frigging lalang... whenever things that affect their revenue comes... they just change it... how many WINNER manager we afford to change... and every fans now wan POCH to come in who was never a proven winner but just a good coach that's all... |
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aaron1717
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Dec 3 2019, 09:14 AM
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QUOTE(and85rew @ Dec 2 2019, 08:33 PM) JM was over his best...seasons ago Even at his best, he was always inconsistent (2-3 good games + 9 poor games) *hello pogba* And yoo bad that was not good enough, nice guy though yea... but at his age... dont blame him... but he is not first team material... especially in a very pacey team... the front three already hilang dunno where and he baru warm up to run and pass to them... whole midfield really damn dysfunctional... the midfield depth of spurs so enviable now...  |
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aaron1717
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Dec 3 2019, 09:15 AM
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QUOTE(bansai @ Dec 2 2019, 10:15 PM) The board and historical aspect of Manchester united demands fast paced attacking football. We have fast paced attacking players, but manager chooses to play reactive counter attacking style. because our midfield cant control... so can only react.... lol |
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aaron1717
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Dec 3 2019, 09:25 AM
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QUOTE(IpohGuyz @ Dec 3 2019, 12:12 AM) walao 22 points away from pool. so sad. sacking manager after manager is not going to change anything. already sack for 6 years. might as well try once stick to manager and gamble. somehow chelsea is the only club able to keep sack and produce result lol. don't understand why you all crying for jm or poch and thinks they will do far better. jm with same sets of players + lukaku / herrera / jogba - maguire / awb.. at then end he also can't handle these kind amateurs, got toxic and got the sack. at the end of his reign, he himself also clueless how to handle these jokers. it's really sad when we only has jlingz/mata/matic/ap/fred or youth to choose from in mid. lucky nowadays fred played much better. jm also can't do much with these bunch of players. only mctominay is quality and both coach consistently play him. at least jm still has herrera and jogba to choose. unai has good profile, win cups before. at the end got sack because of lousy def, mediocre mid. and he actually got 2 years to rebuild. now pep cant maintain winning streak because there's no kompany, laporte, aguero. there's only so much a coach can do with lousy players. SAF is the exception. agree bro... for me... none of the coach can perform with the better resources they had back then... why now only blame ole for the performance with the thin paper squad we have... keep change year after year... might as well appoint interim coach every semi annually je... with current squad... any injuries happen also sure to make our performance look bad... look at WINNER coach pep without fernandinho, laporte, aguero and kompany and how their performance now... our squad now is like 2-3 levels below them currently even they have plenty of injuries now... what can a new coach do seriously.... and ole is like plucking the leaks everywhere on a freaking bad ship with all the useless sailors on board... |
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aaron1717
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Dec 3 2019, 09:26 AM
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QUOTE(limjenson @ Dec 3 2019, 09:20 AM) Nola. Our manager say AP is improving and doing great. He's our future! gg bro... this is the part i dont like ole... he been too diplomatic and protective of his players... should just let AP kena je and he silently see him grow through it... although its true that AP is not a CM... but he need more criticism to grow up... not protection...  |
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aaron1717
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Dec 3 2019, 09:47 AM
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agree on this... so what we keep changing coach... every coach after SAF era is deserved to be fired and more to come in the future if we keep the blame all back to manager... why dont def the manager when the players behave badly... why def the players pulak?? |
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aaron1717
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Dec 3 2019, 12:03 PM
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QUOTE(O-haiyo @ Dec 3 2019, 11:50 AM) It really make me wonders how Ole made the impact when he first came in. The first 10 game or so. So much different with current play players mentality... especially when pogba havent bcum a virus... his assist and goals scored during the 13 matches are quite crazy... but towards closer to end of season... pogba become virus back so he can transferl to RM... but ole denied his wish... and now continue be virus until his wish is realized... and ole didnt insist to get a new CM during the window after he kick herrera and fellaini away... and just agree to woodward wishes.... |
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aaron1717
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Dec 3 2019, 03:04 PM
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QUOTE(plain_white @ Dec 3 2019, 02:58 PM) The thing about ole is...I'm not sure if he is the top quality manager that we need. Yes, I agree the team quality is bad but for long term purpose it's better to have a manager with good tactical plan and exciting style of play for rebuilding. For example liverpool stick with klopp in the initial stage and now it bear fruits. For ole, I think the best he can be is just like Moyes with Everton and fighting for top 4 after few years of rebuilding. Definitely not enough for a club like Man Utd. I hope I'm wrong tho. the first two seasons of klopp also no one sure that he is the one... lol... although he was in the europa and fa final for first two seasons but he won nothing those 2 years... and his tactical plan also looks the same most of the time... stick to 4-3-3 and never change much... just try to put the correct player in those positions and voila... here are they now... in dortmund, he is just like another poch, except that he won the german league champion before... most of the finals he also always the losing finalist... there is nothing we can see if we being impatience... like jomo and lvg... who knows what we could be if we stick with them longer... |
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aaron1717
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Dec 3 2019, 03:27 PM
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QUOTE(plain_white @ Dec 3 2019, 03:14 PM) But we can see that he can build an exciting team when he was in Dortmund although he never win anything. Same as Poch. These types of managers will eventually succeed if given time and support. For Ole, he doesn't have good track record except the disastrous stint with Cardiff. His style is predictable, lack of plan B and tactically inept. The dilemma now is Poch is available for grab. And we might miss a great opportunity if other teams snatch him first. i think for now only man utd afford to pay his 12m penalty back to spurs if he join another EPL club this season... unless he decided to take over at bayern... otherwise i think he should be available til end of the season... still thinking we had two winner coaches and we din make used of them and sack them in 2 seasons timing... not sure another "for the future" coach can make it here or not... liverpool just lucky they gt alot of money from the sales of floptinho... thats where they able to solve their gk and CB problems in one shot... if just ask the board to take from their own pocket and splurge 75m and 50m on those players... its impossible to happen... |
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aaron1717
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Dec 3 2019, 04:52 PM
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QUOTE(O-haiyo @ Dec 3 2019, 04:37 PM) beggar cant choose lol. on a serious note, we dont have that much option, do we? other than poch or allegri... benitez... poach him from the chinese league... ancelotti also can consider... korek giggs from wales international team also can |
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aaron1717
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Dec 3 2019, 05:10 PM
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QUOTE(bansai @ Dec 3 2019, 05:04 PM) No giggs, def not giggs yet. Give him more time. Benitez also not for united, bad blood. then kita byk limited choices these days already haha... of course still gt those legends with more experience like mark hughes and steve bruce also... or sam allydace... |
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aaron1717
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Dec 3 2019, 05:10 PM
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aaron1717
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Dec 3 2019, 05:41 PM
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QUOTE(Ashhh @ Dec 3 2019, 05:34 PM) LOL. Coming from The Sun, this can be only taken with a pinch of salt. alot other publications reported this earlier... haha... i just cincai choose one of the link |
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aaron1717
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Dec 4 2019, 10:29 AM
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bagi kalah menang ke tak kesah dah... janji jan mesti beli some back up in... itu cb pogba dont want to play then forever dont play je
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aaron1717
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Dec 4 2019, 02:35 PM
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QUOTE(bansai @ Dec 4 2019, 12:12 PM) New analysis on bissaka tackling and defensive rate just released. Still in the top in Europe, but instead of being at the top spot, now in the top 50. Players are regressing with ole at the wheel. He needs to inspire them and teach them. Sugarcoating doesn't work, the players read news and tabloids too. i think the recent few matches... lost of mcsauce has caused our defensive performance dropped further... all the opponents just gone pass our midfield like its not there... lol... with mcsauce fred and AP at front... we at least can press hard... but once we lost mcsauce... all the strategy thrown out to window |
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