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English Clubs Manchester United Street Talks, Burnley 0 Man Utd 2

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post Dec 23 2019, 07:08 PM

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QUOTE(IpohGuyz @ Dec 23 2019, 06:48 PM)
we are rebuilding 6 years liao, but can't blame ogs now when the rebuilding doesnt work after 6 years. afterall, he only has 1 year and need to clean up previous managers mess. so does jm needs to cleans up lvg mess lol. even jm see this team, he also give up liao in last preseason, and keep ranting.

i think the real damage is done during lvg time. moyes drain the champion mentality out of the team when there's no mess to be cleaned, lvg instill a rigid possession based football that everyone dun dare to be creative.
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sad case is... all 4 coaches have different strategy and approach to the game... gg.com semua players kasi taruk so many ideology by different ppl... and all are in extreme differences... moyes super crossing heading... LVG possesion and bored the death of opponents... Jomo... park the bus and counter like scorpion... OGS... dunno la... sama macam JOMO... tapi ada pressing sikit depends on the mood of the players...
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post Dec 23 2019, 07:36 PM

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6 Years. 4 Managers. Tons of money wasted. What is the common ground? Kayu and the Glazers. As long as the Glazers are still owners, Kayu will still be in charge of everything. And with that, our club will still be more concerned about nett spending and social media influence.

Jangan kata Poch, even Pep also will not thrive under this kind of management.
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post Dec 23 2019, 07:40 PM

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QUOTE(kenlimfornication @ Dec 23 2019, 05:55 PM)
I know what you mean. But look at Pochettino. Build the team to UCL finals and just a string of bad results and he is gone. Same for Emery.

Patience these days are shorter and instant success is expected of managers and players.
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but poch is not ole.

ole is SAF reincarnation. he will guide this young team into league champions on the 6th season. just wait and see.
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post Dec 23 2019, 08:46 PM

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QUOTE(orga_laut @ Dec 23 2019, 07:40 PM)
but poch is not ole.

ole is SAF reincarnation. he will guide this young team into league champions on the 6th season. just wait and see.
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I blame the pervert jiji LVG for where we are today
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post Dec 23 2019, 11:08 PM

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QUOTE(even_steven @ Dec 23 2019, 07:36 PM)
6 Years. 4 Managers. Tons of money wasted. What is the common ground? Kayu and the Glazers. As long as the Glazers are still owners, Kayu will still be in charge of everything. And with that, our club will still be more concerned about nett spending and social media influence.

Jangan kata Poch, even Pep also will not thrive under this kind of management.
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True to that. Need something or someone to change about how Glazers/Kayu do things in the club. But dun think they gonna leave anytime soon. So assuming Glazers/Kayu untouchable, the short term fix i guess is still to do something about coaching/players.
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post Dec 23 2019, 11:49 PM

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QUOTE(orga_laut @ Dec 23 2019, 07:40 PM)
but poch is not ole.

ole is SAF reincarnation. he will guide this young team into league champions on the 6th season. just wait and see.
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Trust me, I am more than happy to wait and see. But I am pretty sure many including the board aren't.
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post Dec 24 2019, 07:03 AM

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post Dec 24 2019, 07:06 AM

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QUOTE(IpohGuyz @ Dec 23 2019, 06:48 PM)
we are rebuilding 6 years liao, but can't blame ogs now when the rebuilding doesnt work after 6 years. afterall, he only has 1 year and need to clean up previous managers mess. so does jm needs to cleans up lvg mess lol. even jm see this team, he also give up liao in last preseason, and keep ranting.

i think the real damage is done during lvg time. moyes drain the champion mentality out of the team when there's no mess to be cleaned, lvg instill a rigid possession based football that everyone dun dare to be creative.
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IMO, real damage start when moyes brought in all everton backstaff to replace SAF backstaff..
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post Dec 24 2019, 07:48 AM

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Haha i hardly see the matches anymore after match day 2 laugh.gif laugh.gif
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QUOTE(orga_laut @ Dec 23 2019, 07:40 PM)
but poch is not ole.

ole is SAF reincarnation. he will guide this young team into league champions on the 6th season. just wait and see.
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is SAF during his old days also a push over?
I was too young to know what SAF looks like during his younger days.

Is there anyone in the team behave like Poggy? if Poggy was in SAF during his younger days, will SAF just smile and let it go?
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post Dec 24 2019, 09:14 AM

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QUOTE(Broadings @ Dec 24 2019, 08:16 AM)
is SAF during his old days also a push over?
I was too young to know what SAF looks like during his younger days.

Is there anyone in the team behave like Poggy? if Poggy was in SAF during his younger days, will SAF just smile and let it go?
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we have to come to the fact that... the board is also part of this shits... i dont think the board will wanna sell pogba no matter what the coach say... during JM time.. board stand with pogba... during OGS time... im sure it will be the same... just like martial... board can decide not to sell... not the manager... lol... those who have commercial values will be like golden boy to the board... but to be fair... despite how pattern pogba is... he is still the best player in the squad if utilized correctly...
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QUOTE(aaron1717 @ Dec 24 2019, 09:14 AM)
we have to come to the fact that... the board is also part of this shits... i dont think the board will wanna sell pogba no matter what the coach say... during JM time.. board stand with pogba... during OGS time... im sure it will be the same... just like martial... board can decide not to sell... not the manager... lol... those who have commercial values will be like golden boy to the board... but to be fair... despite how pattern pogba is... he is still the best player in the squad if utilized correctly...
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Case of player bigger than club.
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post Dec 24 2019, 11:44 AM

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QUOTE(Broadings @ Dec 24 2019, 08:16 AM)
is SAF during his old days also a push over?
I was too young to know what SAF looks like during his younger days.

Is there anyone in the team behave like Poggy? if Poggy was in SAF during his younger days, will SAF just smile and let it go?
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maybe SAF decision to let go pogba free to juventus b4 was right after all... hmm.gif
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QUOTE(skystrike @ Dec 24 2019, 11:44 AM)
maybe SAF decision to let go pogba free to juventus b4 was right after all... hmm.gif
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I still believe so.
Sometimes we need to see beyond skills, its personality and attitude.
Pogba obviously does not have the latter 2.
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post Dec 24 2019, 12:41 PM

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QUOTE(bansai @ Dec 24 2019, 11:36 AM)
Case of player bigger than club.
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sad case... we had see how unsupportive board can bring down a club like liverpool and arsenal... now we are going to the same path while liverpool board wake up and support their manager.... bye.gif bye.gif
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post Dec 24 2019, 01:20 PM

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QUOTE(skystrike @ Dec 24 2019, 11:44 AM)
maybe SAF decision to let go pogba free to juventus b4 was right after all... hmm.gif
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yes.. but unfortunately he is currently the best MU player now..

this team is not good enough. this team is shit, is totaly different team under OLE THE CLUELESS since he took over from 'Europa Champions Jose' team.. its a done deal.

at first, i thought they going to sack OLE after MCity, but shit he won! now, the board hv to move on and so does the fans, believes on OLE's project to rebuild. the short term results now doesnt matter anymore. and the game at watford had proved it!

like it or not, OLE THE CLUELESS will continue to rebuild the team the SAF way, and hes going to be very very lucky if he can keep pogba to stay.

i put trust on OLE

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post Dec 24 2019, 01:43 PM

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I m hoping for short term deals/loans for new signings of more senior players. In the past when saf was rebuilding, we had Blanc, even Owen. Even zlatan under Mou

Lets see how ole gonna handle january window.. iniesta seems available? Lol
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QUOTE(pisces88 @ Dec 24 2019, 01:43 PM)
I m hoping for short term deals/loans for new signings of more senior players. In the past when saf was rebuilding, we had Blanc, even Owen. Even zlatan under Mou

Lets see how ole gonna handle january window.. iniesta seems available? Lol
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maybe scholes..then our midfield is great again
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post Dec 24 2019, 01:50 PM

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QUOTE(pisces88 @ Dec 24 2019, 01:43 PM)
I m hoping for short term deals/loans for new signings of more senior players. In the past when saf was rebuilding, we had Blanc, even Owen. Even zlatan under Mou

Lets see how ole gonna handle january window.. iniesta seems available? Lol
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January signings normally temp stop gap measures to plug holes. Problem with our team is the whole ship is sinking. The captain wants to sink together with the ship...
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QUOTE(bansai @ Dec 24 2019, 01:50 PM)
January signings normally temp stop gap measures to plug holes. Problem with our team is the whole ship is sinking. The captain wants to sink together with the ship...
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We have big holes in the midf n att. If only Ole can pull off any miracle, like a cavani, eriksen or iniesta etc

Its ok for temp stop gap, we need it. These kids still need 2-3 years to grow. And i fear we are losing Gomes smh.. what a waste



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