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post Oct 6 2019, 09:37 AM

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QUOTE(holypredator @ Oct 5 2019, 09:06 PM)
If high density then it will get annoying travelling up and down from the lift cause the higher your floor is, the more stops there would be to reach your destination.

Level 12 to Car park 6 would be a shorter distance than Level 21 to Cark Park 4.
Top floor exposes to the sun more and generally higher in temperature. If you on aircond 24/7 then no problem cause otherwise it will be much hotter compared to lower floor. It is actually a benefit for countries with 4 seasons because higher floor during winter will reduce heating cost but since Malaysia only has 1 season which is hot and humid everyday, then lower floor would be a better choice if you don't want to ramp up your aircond.

Bear in mind 12 floor is by no means "Lower Floor". It is normally a sweet spot I would say cause it is high enough to avoid all street noises and pests + a view that is wide enough but not too tall that you only see ants moving around while at the same time low enough to avoid too much heat and sunlight (especially when you live in building close to 30 floors (the 13-30 floors will shield you from the heat  icon_rolleyes.gif )
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Many people have different view on the heat issue, my mom even said the wall absorb heat during the day and sunset then release heat during night time :x

The heat actually don't come from the floor, ceiling or wall, it is actually from the window and whichever place that allows air, I tinted the window and now solved most of the heat issues already since my balcony is facing west and during sunset my living room get really hot


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post Oct 6 2019, 10:36 AM

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QUOTE(amduser @ Oct 6 2019, 09:37 AM)
Many people have different view on the heat issue, my mom even said the wall absorb heat during the day and sunset then release heat during night time :x

The heat actually don't come from the floor, ceiling or wall, it is actually from the window and whichever place that allows air, I tinted the window and now solved most of the heat issues already since my balcony is facing west and during sunset my living room get really hot
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That is even worse then... at night would be too hot to sleep sweat.gif

Sometimes we have to consider many factors. ESPECIALLY on which country you are living in.

We live in Malaysia whereby it is hot all day everyday. If you live in UK/US etc. their nights gets quite cold even during summer.

If you read up research on lower floor vs higher floor. Most of the cons they point out for lower floor doesn't seem relevant because they are referring it to ground floor/1st/2nd floors.
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post Oct 6 2019, 11:01 AM

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damn la.. those that do not own a level 4 or level 6 parking or.. dont own a 21floor high raise building should shut u p la..

giving opinion from yr limited theory thinking..

get the level 4parking ( if can, dont buy.. get a2nd floor parking the max) else u will have this feeling u are being cheated or u will hate your condo
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post Oct 6 2019, 05:53 PM

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QUOTE(holypredator @ Oct 6 2019, 10:36 AM)
That is even worse then... at night would be too hot to sleep  sweat.gif

Sometimes we have to consider many factors. ESPECIALLY on which country you are living in.

We live in Malaysia whereby it is hot all day everyday. If you live in UK/US etc. their nights gets quite cold even during summer.

If you read up research on lower floor vs higher floor. Most of the cons they point out for lower floor doesn't seem relevant because they are referring it to ground floor/1st/2nd floors.
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Like I said, tinted all the windows solved the problem, the heat issue is because sunlight Adobe directly into my house and sunset is the hottest whole morning sun is warm

Since then the room temperature during morning and night stay roughly the same and even in hot afternoon the house don't get heat up like before, so the tint definitely helps

I don't need to research on high floor, I'm living in high floor
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post Oct 6 2019, 06:22 PM

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QUOTE(amduser @ Oct 6 2019, 05:53 PM)
Like I said, tinted all the windows solved the problem, the heat issue is because sunlight Adobe directly into my house and sunset is the hottest whole morning sun is warm

Since then the room temperature during morning and night stay roughly the same and even in hot afternoon the house don't get heat up like before, so the tint definitely helps

I don't need to research on high floor, I'm living in high floor
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Mind to tell us you stay at which floor?

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post Oct 6 2019, 08:08 PM

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QUOTE(MrGeex @ Oct 6 2019, 06:22 PM)
Mind to tell us you stay at which floor?
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Used to stay lv28 for a short time, then now lv12
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post Oct 7 2019, 09:35 PM

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QUOTE(amduser @ Oct 6 2019, 08:08 PM)
Used to stay lv28 for a short time, then now lv12
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Hi, is the a reason you choosing LV12 from LV28. From you view, is the temperature in LV28 more heat than LV12 when during the night?
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post Oct 7 2019, 09:41 PM

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post Oct 7 2019, 10:27 PM

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QUOTE(kingmafia @ Oct 7 2019, 09:35 PM)
Hi, is the a reason you choosing LV12 from LV28. From you view, is the temperature in LV28 more heat than LV12 when during the night?
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Level 28 should be cooler is it?
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post Oct 8 2019, 08:37 AM

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QUOTE(kingmafia @ Oct 7 2019, 09:35 PM)
Hi, is the a reason you choosing LV12 from LV28. From you view, is the temperature in LV28 more heat than LV12 when during the night?
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depends on your tolerance on temperature, some people even stay in 24c aircond room also say is warm

most of with the window open, you get fresh air and sometime chilling wind blowing inside which feel very nice especially during raining season, the cold wind blowing in is better than aircond, but during heat wave and haze season it will make your house warmer if keep the window open

somehow i feel like the wind is stronger when you get higher

in certain days during the heat wave season few months ago and sometime during the haze season where it get really hot and stuffy then i will on aircond at 27c most of the time is okay with just ceiling fan during night time, even my bedroom doesn't have aircond, only living room have it and i can still sleep in my room very well with just table fan

it depends on your lifestyle, some people like a lot of natural lights and they open the curtain to let the light in, my parents did that and it literally turn the house into an oven during the day but at night the temperature will slowly return to same temperature with outside temperature

now after staying 10 years on condo, when i go back to landed house in my hometown i feel so hot and stuffy tongue.gif my next house will be above 30th floor, i just like the views and the environment on high rise


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post Oct 8 2019, 01:06 PM

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Whenever you choose higher level although there is a slight increase in price; its actually cheaper because you pay the monthly progressive interest later. The EF bank will not release tye portion of 2b,2c and 2d (structure) since normally after podium completed the lower units are built first. Hence you serve lower monthly progressive payment. Having higher units level normally give better view and translate of better demand later for rental and reselling.
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QUOTE(Matol @ Oct 8 2019, 01:06 PM)
Whenever you choose higher level although there is a slight increase in price; its actually cheaper because you pay the monthly progressive interest later. The EF bank will not release tye portion of 2b,2c and 2d (structure) since normally after podium completed the lower units are built first. Hence you serve lower monthly progressive payment. Having higher units level normally give better view and translate of better demand later for rental and reselling.
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Completely agree rclxms.gif
Especially for those buying first launch units although can enjoy early bird discount but the owner has to start paying the progressive interest once loan approved, and end up they have to pay up to 4 years interest rclxub.gif
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post Oct 8 2019, 09:42 PM

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QUOTE(amduser @ Oct 6 2019, 09:37 AM)
Many people have different view on the heat issue, my mom even said the wall absorb heat during the day and sunset then release heat during night time :x

The heat actually don't come from the floor, ceiling or wall, it is actually from the window and whichever place that allows air, I tinted the window and now solved most of the heat issues already since my balcony is facing west and during sunset my living room get really hot
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Is your mom a mech engineer because her thermodynamic knowledge is good thumbup.gif
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post Oct 8 2019, 10:00 PM

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Thank you all for the help. I have choose the Level 21 due to the lower car park. notworthy.gif

This topic i left it active for others to refer, just in case.

This post has been edited by kingmafia: Oct 8 2019, 10:38 PM
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post Oct 9 2019, 08:48 AM

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QUOTE(blanket84 @ Oct 8 2019, 09:42 PM)
Is your mom a mech engineer because her thermodynamic knowledge is good thumbup.gif
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she is also a doctor and nutritionist doh.gif

i just let them say whatever they like and dont want argue so much with them laugh.gif

she say windows tint very expensive la, not much use la, etc etc...after i spend around RM300 to DIY tinted all all the windows then she just keep quiet and never say hot already tongue.gif

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post Oct 9 2019, 09:36 AM

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QUOTE(amduser @ Oct 9 2019, 08:48 AM)
she is also a doctor and nutritionist  doh.gif 

i just let them say whatever they like and dont want argue so much with them laugh.gif

she say windows tint very expensive la, not much use la, etc etc...after i spend around RM300 to DIY tinted all all the windows then she just keep quiet and never say hot already  tongue.gif
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She is right though about walls absorbing heat. We call it heat capacity. As heat travels from hot area to cold area, so in the morning when the ambient temperature is colder than the wall, they absorb the heat, and at night when the ambient is colder, they release the heat.

Heat transfer through wall isn’t significant if you use clay brick. But it is considerably high if you use sand brick. Because sand brick doesn’t retain heat as much as clay brick, which means it will transfer the outside heat into your house.

And you are right too because the heat transfers the most through window (conduction & radiation) and through the air (convection). Putting tint on window is the most efficient way to reduces the heat going into your house. Choose the tint with lowest thermal conductivity. And you will save on your aircond bill too thumbup.gif

This post has been edited by blanket84: Oct 9 2019, 09:39 AM
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post Oct 9 2019, 06:17 PM

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QUOTE(amduser @ Oct 6 2019, 09:37 AM)
Many people have different view on the heat issue, my mom even said the wall absorb heat during the day and sunset then release heat during night time :x

The heat actually don't come from the floor, ceiling or wall, it is actually from the window and whichever place that allows air, I tinted the window and now solved most of the heat issues already since my balcony is facing west and during sunset my living room get really hot
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If the wall is made of sand brick then the wall is the culprit of heat.

 

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