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 Interactive Brokers (IBKR), IBKR users, welcome!

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Ramjade
post Sep 29 2019, 09:07 AM

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QUOTE(moosset @ Sep 28 2019, 09:11 PM)
I'm not sure how many of you are using IBKR and I was surprised that there's no thread dedicated to IBKR.

Any users here?

My account was approved a while ago but I haven't started funding it. Is it cheaper to trade US / SG stocks using IBKR than say MY brokers or SG brokers?

If you're using IBKR, what is your base currency?
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You did not search hard enough
https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/3396549

I am a user

Of course is cheaper using IB to buy stocks from SG/US.
Reason is no quarterly platform fees. No dividend fees. No markup exchange rate With IB you get spot rate (real time rates used by banks to trade among themswlves).

Not to mentioned IB have fantastic rates. Way cheaper than any brokerage.

This post has been edited by Ramjade: Sep 29 2019, 09:09 AM
Ramjade
post Sep 30 2019, 12:47 AM

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QUOTE(adele123 @ Sep 30 2019, 12:10 AM)
After your post, did a quick research.

We notice IB charging lower minimum commission compared to maybank kim eng singapore in buying sgx stocks.

Am also finding this IB very very cheap.
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SG brokers are light years behind IB
Ramjade
post Oct 1 2019, 06:43 PM

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QUOTE(moosset @ Oct 1 2019, 05:18 PM)
are you using the Lite or Pro?
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Pro baru launch. Majority of us will be on full version of IB.
Ramjade
post Oct 1 2019, 06:54 PM

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QUOTE(moosset @ Oct 1 2019, 06:52 PM)
how much is your monthly transaction fee? more than 10 USD??

if less than 10USD, they charge until 10 USD right? unless you've more than 100k USD with them.
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I use whitelabels of IB hence avoid paying the USD10/month charge. tongue.gif

Trade off is I pay higher commision than pure IB but the commision I paid is still at least 50% discount to what SG brokers will charged me + no pesky dividend tax/quarterly platform fee. I get full version of IB minus the pesky USD10/month fees.

This post has been edited by Ramjade: Oct 1 2019, 06:57 PM
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post Oct 1 2019, 10:11 PM

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QUOTE(moosset @ Oct 1 2019, 10:07 PM)
sorry, what does whitelabels of IB mean?
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Rebranded version of IB. Companies rent IB platform and market it as their own.

All info is found in the link I provided above. All you need to do is open and read it if you rajin. I did.

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post Oct 1 2019, 10:39 PM

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QUOTE(moosset @ Oct 1 2019, 10:16 PM)
I see, thanks. I'll have a look.

I thought about using the normal Pro version but not sure if I can reach 10usd per month in commission.
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Just go with Whitelabels. Lite is only limited to US markets. You think I can hit USD10/month commision? No. That's why I opted to go with Whitelabels. Allow me the peace of mind of buying whenever I want and not forced buying.

Another thread on whitelabels
https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/4744515
The first thread is the original one with more info.

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post Oct 2 2019, 10:11 AM

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QUOTE(moosset @ Oct 2 2019, 09:59 AM)
Ramjade

transferwise now allows transfer from MYR. Wouldn't it be cheaper to transfer straight from MYR to IBKR using transferwise, instead of MYR > CIMB MY > CIMB SG > IBKR? Although I'm not sure how to do it yet....
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That's if IBKR accept third part transfer. So far I know they don't accept transferwise. They don't accept third part transfer for USD but they accept for EUR. It's a hit and miss. I rather not have my money stuck in limbo and take like 90 days to get it back. You are welcome to test and see if they accept 3rd party transfer.

After all IB exchange rates are super cheap. Is spot rate. Real time market forex rate which changes every 2nd. Commission only cost USD2/conversion.

Avoid going Cimb MY -> Cimb SG. Get robs by banks only. Used fintech to transfer your money. Avoid using banks in Malaysia at all cost to transfer your money. Last time no choice. Now we have quite a lot of choice.
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post Oct 2 2019, 12:36 PM

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QUOTE(moosset @ Oct 2 2019, 11:30 AM)
so which one is better?

IBKR Lite is not yet available right? Didn't see it yet.
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Depends in you lo. If you want to keep your cost low, IBKR.
If your purpose is US stocks only maybe and you want pretty interface maybe TD Ameritrade.

For me I am a cost guy. So my option is bias towards IBKR. I choose IBKR for few reasons.
1. super cheap. You can't find another broker at this price set. Believed me I have looked
2. just works. Does what it needs me to do. Cheap does not mean low quality. I am satisfied with IB.
3. Access to spot rates for foreign currency conversion. Even with priority banking, one can never get such good rates.

QUOTE(moosset @ Oct 2 2019, 12:15 PM)
ah, thanks!

I've another European broker. Can I switch my stocks from one broker to another?
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Yes can. Be prepared to fork out expensive transfer fees.
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post Oct 2 2019, 09:01 PM

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QUOTE(moosset @ Oct 2 2019, 08:46 PM)
Thanks!
I'm currently leaning towards IBKR Lite since I want access to US stocks & ETF. I'm also not very good with charts and indicators, only know some simple technical trading indicators.

I'd also like to enter SG REITs market but maybe I don't need it, considering the additional cost.

My European broker doesn't allow US ETF trading, that's why I registered for IB. I hold some US stocks with them, so was thinking of transferring. Nah, maybe not lah... just too much trouble. I currently pay 0.25% brokerage with this broker.
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I don't use charts so charting is of no importance to me as I am buy and hold guy. I see cheap, I buy. Never sell unless maybe got some fundamental changes

IF your buy price is 1-2% different from current price, just sell and re-buy again. If you are like me where I am sitting on 30% gains and if sell definitely won't be able to buy back at original price, I have no choice of selling and my only option is transferring.
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post Oct 3 2019, 06:25 PM

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QUOTE(moosset @ Oct 3 2019, 06:11 PM)
IBKR Lite is only available to US & India residents!!

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Just use their whitelabels. Settled.
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post Oct 4 2019, 08:57 AM

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QUOTE(dwRK @ Oct 4 2019, 08:42 AM)
Aiyah... but no big loss really if you trade EU stocks...

"For products not entitled to zero-commission trading under IBKR Lite, the same commission structure will apply to both IBKR Lite and IBKR Pro. Where applicable, a "Fixed" commission model will apply to IBKR Lite clients for such products."

Pro you can select much cheaper tier commissions...

Hope TDA don't play such a stunt and limit commission free trades to US only...

I guess you'll proceed to fund your Pro account? You realize the monthly min $10 commission/fee if total assets <$100k right?
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As mentioned the USD10/month can easily be bypass by going with Whitelabels.
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post Oct 4 2019, 04:24 PM

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QUOTE(moosset @ Oct 4 2019, 03:07 PM)
Ramjade I saw the option to link my IB acc with TradeStation global.

If I trade with TradeStation now, can I change to pure IB later?
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Is memang link already

Your choice. You can trade via tradestation program or IBKR website/program. Up to you.

For me I sign up via Tradestation global, then everything from customer service, buying, depositing money all I use IBKR website/deal with IKR. I never even bother about Tradestation global apart from opening account time.

QUOTE(moosset @ Oct 4 2019, 03:27 PM)
Oh ..... I totally forgot that it was Transferwise bank acc that will transfer money to IBKR, not me.

but then, now Transferwise has USD bank acc details for users, which mean, the bank acc is under my name.
So technically, it is me that transfer money from my Transferwise bank acc (under my name) to IBKR?? If so, then I don't need to transfer money to SG already.
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Wrong. Transferwise will transfer under their name. Not yours. Recipient side will see Transferwise name and not yours.

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post Oct 7 2019, 11:00 PM

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QUOTE(moosset @ Oct 4 2019, 04:36 PM)
ah, yes. You're right. The acc details with my name can only be used to receive USD, can't be used to send USD.
"Your bank details to receive USD

Use your bank details to receive USD from friends and businesses.
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You are wrong again.
You can use transferwise to send USD. Question is if receiver gside got issue with third party name. If no issue, your transfer will go through.
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post Oct 8 2019, 10:01 AM

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QUOTE(moosset @ Oct 8 2019, 01:16 AM)
Yes, transferwise can of course send USD; but I'm talking about the Transferwise physical bank account details for transferwise user.
I've USD bank account details provided by Transferwise to receive USD, that account doesn't send out USD, I think. If it does, then it should be in my name.

The italic part is copied from the transferwise website.
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That account doesn't send USD but when you send USD, it's deducted from that USD account.
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post Oct 9 2019, 07:10 AM

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QUOTE(moosset @ Oct 9 2019, 02:25 AM)
Ramjade

While waiting for my tradestation account to be approved, I've a question.
The min trade for TradeStation is USD5, while IBKR charges USD10.
So, if I trade twice a month, then IBKR is actually ok?

Now I think about it, M'sian brokers are also not cheap.
if buy RM 10k stocks, RM 10 clearing + RM10 brokerage + 0.03% + VAT, also about USD5.
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I don't know where are you getting USD5 and USD10. Tradestation only charge you min USD1.50
https://www.tradestation-international.com/...ng-commissions/

There's a different between tradestation and tradestation global. Tradestation global is the whitelabels of IB.

For pure IB is only USD0.35.
https://www.interactivebrokers.com/en/index...=1590&p=stocks2

Nope Malaysian broker more expensive. Higher markup exchange rate vs spot exchange rate.
Quaternary platform fees.
Dividend fees.
You do that maths again.
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post Oct 26 2019, 07:55 AM

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QUOTE(fauxylar @ Oct 25 2019, 09:24 AM)
Any updates on this? Looking to make my first deposit and want to know if there’s a better way than bank wire transfer
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QUOTE(nikizwan @ Oct 25 2019, 10:50 PM)
I have IB account. I did TT from my hong leong account to my IB account. no problem
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Keep in mind over long time you will be bleeding lots of money to banks if you use TT to interactive broker.
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post Oct 26 2019, 11:23 PM

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QUOTE(Yggdrasil @ Oct 26 2019, 10:23 PM)
Off topic newbie question here. Is IBKR the cheapest for trading US stocks as a Malaysian (stocks not ETF)?

Also, what is the fee per trade? I see different quotation from different websites.
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With zero commission war between brokers for US market I think Charles schwab is the winner.
The question is whether you can open it as a Malaysian or not.

If you cannot have access to those zero commision brokers, then yes interactive broker is the cheapest.
If you op for pure interactive broker and if you choose tiered pricing (the cheapest option) is few cents per transaction. If few cents I won't even bother counting.

If you have no money for pure interactive broker like yours truly and op for whitelabels (rebranded version of interactive broker by other companies but still interactive broker), it cost about USD2-4 depending on which whitelabels are you using.

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post Oct 28 2019, 11:02 AM

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QUOTE(Yggdrasil @ Oct 28 2019, 03:05 AM)
One more thing. What is the minimum amount in USD we need to open an account? I saw it says need minimum 10,000USD?  rclxub.gif
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Apparently no.
https://www.elitetrader.com/et/threads/does...minimum.329812/
Keep in mind the inactivity fees. Less than USD2k in cash or stocks = USD20/month. Less than USD100k = USD10/month.
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post Oct 28 2019, 06:18 PM

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QUOTE(kart @ Oct 28 2019, 03:01 PM)
If we are using whitelabel such as TradeStation, will whitelabel or Interactive Brokers charge us inactivity fees, if we do not  perform minimum number of share transactions (less than $20 of monthly commissions) every single month?
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Whitelabels memang got no inactivity fees.
You paid for it by paying higher commission. Pure IB few cents per transaction, whitelabels $2-4/transaction. Which is still cheap.
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post Oct 29 2019, 05:43 AM

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QUOTE(kart @ Oct 29 2019, 04:26 AM)
Thank you for your respective replies, dwRK and Ramjade.  notworthy.gif

For common people like us, Whitelabels suits us well. No inactivity fees and the requirement to perform minimum number of share transactions every single month.
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Once you hit USD200k, open an account with pure interactive broker. Perform an internal transfer and close the Whitelabels.

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