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Ramjade
post Oct 29 2019, 09:24 AM

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QUOTE(zenjiazenjia @ Oct 29 2019, 07:41 AM)
Guy,  want to ask.  I went to tradestation website to open an account, somehow during registration,  it direct me to ibkr.  Now when I login ibkr and tradestation using same login,  is it correct?  So I am opening account with ibkr or tradestation and the fees/charges follow which platform?
Anyway the account still pending approval.
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Normal.

No. After this you login via Interacrive broker page. No need for tradestation global already.

Fees follow what's written on tradestation global page unless you initiate an internal transfer to pure interactive broker.


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post Oct 30 2019, 03:14 PM

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QUOTE(zenjiazenjia @ Oct 30 2019, 12:46 PM)
Guys, i wanted try transfer fund to IBKR from my standchart account, see can pass thru or not. i already created a bank wire deposit request in IBKR and have beneficiary and bank details. when i fill i standard chartered international transfer form via online banking, most of it fields input i can find from the info from IBKR, but not sure what to fill for below. need some advise on my 1st international transfer

ID / PASSPORT NO: (is it account number)
CHARGES: (3 options to select), 1) all local & oversea charges borne by applicant, 2) all local & oversea charges borne by beneficiary, 3) local charges borne by applicant, oversea charges borne by beneficiary

by the way, i saw the beneficiary is Interactive Brokers UK Limited, address is UK, but the bank is in new york, US, is this normal?
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Don't bother using standard chartered. Final amount which suppose to end up will be lesser say about USD50-100. All kena makan up by standard charted.

But to humour you,
ID should be your unique interactive username usually UTXXXXX.
Charges you pay everything yourself. Pick option 1. Again as mentioned after doing all that, final amount that appear in interactive broker will be lesser. Banks makan your money already (through invisible fees, unfavourable exchange rate)

Yes. Normal. Tradestation global is for IB UK. But since you are transferring I assume is USD, of course the bank is in New York.

QUOTE(livina2011 @ Oct 30 2019, 01:18 PM)
i was curious how you guys trade US stocks. do you buy USD at our bank rate and TT to IBKR then trade over there in USD then when you want to use money or take some profit only then you exchange your USD back to malaysia bank. if that's the case does the spot USD makes any difference while you trade over there at IBKR? assuming you don't convert back to MYR everytime you sell your US stocks.

Our local bank that offer US stocks don't have withdrawal fee, inactivity fee, monthly trading platform fee.
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We never use Malaysian banks to TT. Well some might. Bloody expensive. What most people do is transfer SGD into interactive broker account via FAST (Singapore version of IBFT). From there, once money available just convert at spot rate into USD. Pay USD2.00 only for spot rate (real time market rates which banks use for themselves).

There's a tutorial over here.
https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/4744515

Difference is a lot over time.

I don't know what US stocks you are talking about. Malaysian banks don't let you buy or sell US stocks. You need a stock broker to do that. As far as I know all stock brokers in Malaysia charente a hefty fee for overseas stock purchased from say NYSE and Nasdaq.
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post Oct 30 2019, 06:28 PM

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QUOTE(zenjiazenjia @ Oct 30 2019, 04:01 PM)
Thanks for highlighting this. If using instarem transfer fund to IBKR. how about later for withdrawal, how it works?
and let's say i transfer USD into IBKR, if i would like to buy Hong Kong stocks, how it works? do i need to convert to HKD?
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I never test instarem with interactive broker. Yes convert. Alternatively can try bank in HKD100 into interactive broker via instarem and see if it gets rejected.
You can TT back to malaysian banks which will be a pain in the ass as again banks will eat up majority of your money.

For me very simple. IBKR (SGD) -> SG bank account -> SG fintech to trasnfer money back to malaysia. I avoid using banks.

QUOTE(moosset @ Oct 30 2019, 06:18 PM)
cannot use instarem to move fund to IBKR.
IBKR doesn't accept fund from third party, generally speaking. IBKR needs to get the fund from you and your bank account. 
Instarem has your name, but they don't use your bank acc to transfer fund, so cannot.

for the second Q, yes.
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Actually can use for EUR transfer for instarem. Tried and tested. USD and other currency don't know.
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post Oct 30 2019, 07:31 PM

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QUOTE(moosset @ Oct 30 2019, 07:00 PM)
eh, really? IBKR accepts EUR via Instarem??  drool.gif

wah... then I've to try it lo....
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According to alexkos. He tested it.
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post Oct 30 2019, 09:16 PM

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QUOTE(zenjiazenjia @ Oct 30 2019, 09:08 PM)
i see. i will go with this path then

remittance - instarem(MYR) -> SG CIMB FastSaver(SGD) -> IBKR (SGD) -> IBKR (convert USD/HKD)
withdraw - IBKR (convert SGD) -> IBKR(SGD) -> SG CIMB FastSaver(SGD) -> (MYR)To find out more
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withdraw - IBKR (convert SGD) -> IBKR(SGD) -> SG CIMB FastSaver(SGD) -> MY CIMB (MYR)To find out more
- this one rates not bad.
- alternative can use transferwise to bring money back. Usually my money is one way. I never bring any money back. No point lose money converting back to RM.

This post has been edited by Ramjade: Oct 30 2019, 09:19 PM
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post Oct 31 2019, 11:50 PM

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QUOTE(livina2011 @ Oct 30 2019, 11:56 PM)
Malaysia banks i.e CIMB/MBB can buy US/HK/IND/THAI/SG stocks minimum brokerage is USD25 or 0.30%.(correction should be 0.40%) It is high if you use to scalp or day trade. No TT fees, No monthly charges or minimum trade requirement but price quotation is not live (it's delayed). You just buy USD to trade only 1 time conversion until you withdraw in ringgit. The downside is there is 0.5% spread not at spot. I think give and take charges should be neglible depending on your trading volume and strategy. What do you think? IBKR better or local bank better? How does Malaysian fund IBKR besides using your FAST method and TT?
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Wow. That is bloody expensive. When you exchange RM to your foreign currency. Check again of your broker allow in house conversion or must be deposited first.

If require deposit then check and see the final amount is next how much fees.

Last I checked most Malaysian brokers charged quarterly platform fees and dividend fees.
Still not good. 0.5% vs spot rate. You haven't factor in hidden charges by your broker. The exchange you see is already hiked up behind your back. devil.gif

I will never use local brokers for foreign stocks.
IBKR wins. If you use the pure version is even cheaper at few cents per transaction.

That's the only way. TT Or go via SG route. Another way is fly to US, open a US bank account and fund it directly. Do a local transfer form US bank account into IBKR. Of course airticket and time not worth it for me when they are giving me spot rate and charge me only USD2.00/ conversion.

QUOTE(livina2011 @ Oct 31 2019, 10:26 PM)
USD1.50 per trade at any amount? if let say i buy USD100K one order still USD1.50??

does IBKR combine same day order and charge USD1.50 or treat as seperate order?? i.e USD1.50 x 5 order same day??

CIMB don't combine same day order so USD25 x 5 order = USD125 brokerage (ouch!)  shakehead.gif

if you trade USD6,500 on every order brokerage at 0.40% is still ok qua....i think (if below maybe not worth it)
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Depends you are using tradestation global or interactive broker.
Here is tradestation price.
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US Stocks, ETFs, ETPs and Warrants
USD 0.007 per Share
Minimum Per Order
USD 1.5


I haven't try combining but should be possible as they are pretty advanced. If you somehow can get your hands on IBKR Lite, transaction is free of charge.
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post Nov 1 2019, 08:29 AM

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QUOTE(livina2011 @ Nov 1 2019, 07:22 AM)
US Stocks, ETFs, ETPs and Warrants
USD 0.007 per Share
Minimum Per Order
USD 1.5

@Ramjade does that means if i buy 5,000 shares of $2.00 stocks my brokerage/commission will be $35.00?? if thats the case the rate is more or less 0.35% of value. Which i think is not much difference compare to CIMB rate 0.40%
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QUOTE(livina2011 @ Nov 1 2019, 07:32 AM)
When you exchange RM to your foreign currency. Check again of your broker allow in house conversion or must be deposited first.

If require deposit then check and see the final amount is next how much fees.

@Ramjade they have their daily buy/sell rate (not at spot). Yes they allow in house conversion but your USD will sit in your account until you trade and no interest given for USD balances. No other fee only that 0.50% spread when exchange to MYR.
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Best you drop tradestation global/interactive broker a email. I don't even know how to answer your question. Scared give you wrong answer.
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post Nov 2 2019, 11:32 AM

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QUOTE(livina2011 @ Nov 2 2019, 09:08 AM)
after some investigations i find that trading stocks with local banks is much easier in terms of funding and other charges, your money in different jurisdiction and even commission is so much cheaper

example :
if you buy stock A 10,000 shares at $1.00 your commission in our local bank is 0.40% which equals to $10,000 × 0.40% = $40.00

but if you buy from IBKR the same as above it will cost you 10,000 shares x 0.005 cents (which is lowest commission offered by IBKR) = $50.00

however if you buy expensive stocks (which is smaller number of shares) i.e google at $1,200++ pershare, facebook at $190++ per share) with smaller number of shares then IBKR could be way cheaper. if stocks is around $1.00 range i think there won't be so much difference at all.

But bare in mind your money will be in US jurisdiction. if there's any bank run or government confiscation occurs (just an assumption) you may need to get a local lawyer to deal with US lawyer on these complicated fund repatriation problem. (which i'm not familiar with)

and also not taking account other charges which you may incur at IBKR i.e funding & withdrawal charges, maintenance and minimum requirement charges, etc....could be more idk

most importantly is your money will be in different jurisdiction and may have implication if you passed away suddenly (inheritance issue)

just look at recent 1MDB $1B of jlow funds. we need to get them from the US and it's very complicated and not easy as well.

also maybe if you are small trader or scalper i.e buying stocks in small quantity like $1,000 worth per order at one time and a few times a day then local bank may not be suitable at all because they will calculate order individually i.e buying $1,000 of stocks in 5 seperate order your commission will be hefty $25 × 5 = $125 for a $5,000 worth of stocks.

I hope anyone with personal experience can explain how would IBKR be better?? and mind you IBKR LITE which is commission free are only available to US citizen
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I don't know where you get 0.005.
Commission is 0.0035
https://www.interactivebrokers.com/en/index...=1590&p=stocks2
10000 X 0.0035 = USD35.00

Also as you go higher. IB still cheaper.
Eg.
100,000 x 0.0035 = USD350.
100,000 x 0.004 = USD400

Don't think just because you are in Malaysia you are safe. US have very long arm. Just last year 2-3 maybank Kim eng account were ordered to be suspended on US orders. So in this case your money is not even safe even if you are not in US. Also keep in mind US stocks

What funding charges? If fund using local currency is free. Like our IBFT. One free withdrawal in a month. After that USD25/withdrawal. Converting will be done at real time forex rates at commision of only USD2.00 How much does your broker hike up the exchange rate behind your back? You can compare with xe.com and see how much you lose out. Interactive broker price will be cheaper than XE. Already checked myself before converting.

Check again. Email them for confirmation. Last time I check Malaysian brokers want to charge me quarterly platform fees, fees for my dividends for overseas stocks.


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post Nov 2 2019, 08:56 PM

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QUOTE(livina2011 @ Nov 2 2019, 08:42 PM)
saw a post here that said maybank only allow funding over the counter cos BNM blocked IB is that true at this point of time?
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There's been occasional reports here and there. If it turned up to be true not surprised.
Cause interactive broker is involve in forex. You can get spot rates from them. Since Malaysian govt is not happy if their citizen deal in forex trading, so make sense to block.
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post Nov 5 2019, 10:52 AM

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QUOTE(moosset @ Nov 5 2019, 04:16 AM)
what's the difference between these 2?

why need to download both?

edit: I'm using MAC and these two links are for Windows. sad.gif

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After get username and password, just use IB. Forget about tradestation global already.

Program is good if you want to convert money and don't want to see the transaction appear (if you choose fxconv). Default mode idealpro (on the website and profram). You can change to fxconv only in the program.
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post Nov 5 2019, 03:40 PM

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QUOTE(moosset @ Nov 5 2019, 12:30 PM)
meaning, download the IB platform? cannot use directly on the web browser?

if use the website, I can log in with my own username & password. Then why they give us a new set of username and password?  rclxub.gif
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QUOTE(moosset @ Nov 5 2019, 12:31 PM)
the portal uses our own username & password; not the one I got from the email.
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I just use whatever stuff they email me. I didn't edit anything. As long as can log into IB webpage, means that username and password is valid for program.

Program is optional only. Not compulsory to have.
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QUOTE(moosset @ Nov 5 2019, 06:49 PM)
Thanks!

I've also got some answers from them:
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Don't use Mac. Simple lo. tongue.gif
Watch the video. Should help.
https://ibkr.info/video/2163

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QUOTE(moosset @ Nov 5 2019, 09:54 PM)
my mac is the latest with Touch ID and Touch bar. Honestly, after less than 2 months owning this laptop, I started to regret already. I don't use this mac 101%, just 60 to 70% of its full capability.

should have saved the money for investment.  doh.gif

I used to be more stingy, now I spend money more easily.
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That's why I used windows only. Max I spend on laptop/PC = how much income tax releif I can get from govt.

With windows everything is free whistling.gif whistling.gif
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post Nov 9 2019, 11:55 AM

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QUOTE(zenjiazenjia @ Nov 9 2019, 09:52 AM)
Bro, for transfer fund from SG CIMB FastSaver(SGD) to IBKR(SGD), do able to use FAST transfer or have to use TT?
When i try create a deposit request in IBKR, only can select Bank Wire Deposit, does it mean TT?
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Yes select wire. That will create a notification to IB that a certain xxxxx amount is coming in from CIMB Bank.

After that just transfer the sane amount xxxxx that you input into IB via Cimb FAST.

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post Nov 19 2019, 10:50 AM

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QUOTE(moosset @ Nov 18 2019, 03:06 PM)
Regarding BABA IPO, I've asked IBKR and here's the reply:

Please note, IBKR generally does not offer clients the ability to participate in an IPO (Initial Public Offering) of a US company. IBKR may offer the ability for clients to participate in IPOs outside of the US. The IPO subscription page is only available for eligible customers participating in certain Chinese and Hong Kong IPOs. At this time there are no plans to make it available for other markets. You can trade those securities through IBKR once they are listed in the secondary markets.

Also, please note that when the IPO is announced and if your account is eligible for it, you will see it in the IPO subscriptions page in Client Portal. By clicking on the relevant options, it will show you the requirements for participating in the IPO and further guidelines and procedures. In case, if you don't see any IPOs within the Account management, it means that the feature is not yet made available to your account based on the region/ account type, etc.

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QUOTE(andreyi1979 @ Nov 19 2019, 01:23 AM)
Very good Infos. tks
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Would like to add those who opened IBKR with Whitelabels, IBKR won't do IPO for you. You will need to go back to the original whitelabels you opened with and ask how to proceed.
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QUOTE(nbafans99 @ Nov 19 2019, 01:21 PM)
Just went through TradeStation Global account application.

Two questions that would need clarification:-
1. May I know if we need to wait until approved status then only can perform funding?
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2. What're the options to fund the TSG account? Let say primarily to invest in NYSE. From thread reading here, seems like Instarem is the lowest cost choice ?
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1. You need to fund it then only your account will be approved. Amount to fund = USD5k or equivalent in other currency.
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instarem(MYR) -> SG CIMB FastSaver(SGD) -> IBKR (SGD) -> IBKR (convert USD/HKD)


2. Yes instarem is the cheapest but you cannot fund it in USD. So far only Eur works.
I use

Of course if you want to give free money to your banks by doing TT, it will also work. Expect a cut of about 3-5% that the bank will take. Free money for the banks. tongue.gif
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post Nov 21 2019, 10:13 AM

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QUOTE(moosset @ Nov 21 2019, 10:05 AM)
no ...

use instaRem, MYR > HKD. IBKR accepts HKD.
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Care to share the sender bank for Instarem for HKD?
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QUOTE(moosset @ Nov 21 2019, 10:32 AM)
sender institution?? I wrote InstaRem. The same way I did for EUR.

I know it feels weird. I thought it had to be a bank's name.
Anyway, I still don't understand why IBKR can't accept USD from InstaRem. I tried to ask InstaRem the sending institution, they said OCBC (the same bank that accepts MYR). I was like, WTF?? That's not how FinTech works! There must be local bank in US that remits USD to IBKR.
He/she said no. It's OCBC (MY) that sends money to the US!  doh.gif

Maybe I have saved the chat log somewhere. If I can find it, I'll post it.
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In the interactive broker page, there's a colum for you to fill up senders bank. You wrote sender bank ad instsrem on interactive broker?
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QUOTE(nbafans99 @ Nov 22 2019, 08:39 PM)
Which one do you think is better if eventually I want to invest in US stocks?
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Doesn't matter as you still need to pay USD2.00 for USD conversion since they don't accept USD from instsrem.
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QUOTE(DiamondRuby @ Nov 29 2019, 09:09 AM)
Hello All sifu,

I am planing to open an IB account.. I'm from malaysia.
My target is to fund around usd 3k for 1st & topup to max usd10k.

I need advice as following.
1) I saw there's a lot of comment on the past forum.. May I know in present, which is the chepaest way to fund into IB account.
2) I'm holding some usd notes with me, can I fund directly to IB via any bank or agent?
3) I saw comment, inactive account in IB charges usd10/mth.. Inactive means no transaction at all or there's minimum transaction to avoid this cost?
4) what's the cheapest way to get back money from IB in MYR?
Regards
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3. Yes. Usd10/month if inactive. No transaction + your transaction doesn't generate USD10. Eg only USD2. Hence you will be charged the balance USD8. To avoid it
1. hold USD100k of cash or stocks with them
2. Trade frequently until you generate USD10/momth
3. Use whitelabels

4. Cheapest way is IB - > SG banks (Cimb AG) - > MY banks.
Think carefully if you keep bringing money back to Malaysia you going to lose a lot. Think of it as a one way ticket. IF you are not ready, don't open.

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