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Ramjade
post Dec 4 2019, 11:50 AM

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QUOTE(moosset @ Dec 4 2019, 11:40 AM)
I wanted to do DCA but I can't find the date of my last transaction. Anyone knows? I can't find it on TWS.

If I go through the portal and click transactions, there are only transactions for deposit / withdrawal. I want trading transactions.
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Under reports.

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Ramjade
post Dec 7 2019, 11:51 AM

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QUOTE(toiletking2006 @ Dec 7 2019, 07:11 AM)
This is a minimum activity fee of USD 1.00 in the base currency of yours (SGD)

It only applies to small balance accounts

You can find detailed information here:

https://www.interactivebrokers.co.uk/en/index.php?f=38234

And my balance is around 1k usd . Attach below is the screenshot given to me
Fees waiver for first 3 months. For my case which means July to Oct. And fees will be charged if balance less than 100k usd. Based on my understanding


user posted image
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Are you using whitelabels or pure IB?
Do you have any stock holdings with them?
Ramjade
post Dec 7 2019, 02:05 PM

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QUOTE(roarus @ Dec 7 2019, 10:13 AM)
Looks like you were hit with this - Broker Client Account min liquidation value < USD$1000
user posted image

Did you have on the dot USD$1000 equivalent of SGD during account opening? USD.SGD might've fluctuated and you ended up with < USD$1000 on certain periods
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QUOTE(toiletking2006 @ Dec 7 2019, 12:59 PM)
I am using tradeglobal station. My acc is idle. Didnt do ant trade yet
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QUOTE(toiletking2006 @ Dec 7 2019, 01:03 PM)
There is a dot. 1-2usd surcharge.  I have added another 20usd.. Let c is there any charges for next month
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You have your answer there already. Your account less than USD1k.
I fund my account with USD5k, I make sure it's USD5100 hence there no extra fee. Then proceed to buy stocks from them.
So far I am holding > USD5k with them in stock holdings and no charge.

Adding USD20 is not safe. Cause possible earlier on your USd1K is not enough. So if say is only worth USD979, adding USD20 won't solve the problem. Please add like USD100-200 for extra buffer.

Also open account when you want to buy stuff. Don't open account and let it be idling.


Ramjade
post Dec 8 2019, 11:05 PM

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QUOTE(Yggdrasil @ Dec 7 2019, 10:45 PM)
I have 2 questions.

1) I opened a TradeStation account but it lead me to IBKR.
After I opened IBKR, I was unable to follow the instructions to convert to TradeStation. I made a trade and both TradeStation and IBKR emailed me about the transaction. TradeStation also said thank you for funding via TradeStation. Is it safe to assume my account is under TradeStation?

2. Do I have to trade under TradeStation or I can use IBKR like usual to enjoy TradeStation fees? For some reason I don't know how to use TradeStation.
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1. That's correct. Login using IBKR and TWS IBKR (program)
- pick either one
- I never use tradestation program. I stick to IBKR. Tradestation is only use for opening account.
Login to IBKR web portal. Not web trader > report > statements > run statement > account information > you will see tradestation

2. Trade using IBKR and still use tradestation fees.


Ramjade
post Dec 11 2019, 12:03 PM

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QUOTE(kart @ Dec 11 2019, 09:22 AM)
This is just my opinion, and I could be wrong. But, I did transfer some money to my Singapore savings account, without any issue, and it should work.

From Instarem Malaysia's point of view, you are a "Singaporean staying in Singapore", who owns CIMB Singapore FastSaver savings account under your name. So, just choose Singapore, as the country of residence of the recipient, and it should work.
I am wondering whether we, as Malaysians, can open Instarem Singapore account, so that we can send SGD, to our savings account in other countries (other than Malaysia and Singapore).

Let's assume that a Malaysian already has a Instarem Malaysia account, is working and staying (renting a room) in Singapore, with employment pass.

With the employment pass and an address in Singapore, can this Malaysian open Instarem Singapore account? In other words, Instarem Malaysia account and Instarem Singapore account coexist under the same person.
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Can. If you are working there. Have SG address.
No must use different email address.
If you are like me without any business in SG, no cannot have instsrem account.
Ramjade
post Dec 11 2019, 04:56 PM

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QUOTE(kart @ Dec 11 2019, 04:35 PM)
So, a Malaysian with Singapore employment pass can register an Instarem Singapore account, using another e-mail address. During Instarem Singapore account registration, that Malaysian can submit a photocopy of Singapore employment pass, to be verified by Instarem Singapore, right? That is good.

Yeah, I am same as you, and are not working in Singapore. However, it is good to know how to register for an Instarem Singapore account, in order to transfer SGD to savings accounts in other countries.
Then again, Instarem should be aware that we Malaysians cannot use Instarem Malaysia account, to transfer SGD.

Back to my example, the person is a Malaysian citizen, so the person is qualified to have an Instarem Malaysia account. And, this person is working in Singapore. So, with Singapore employment pass and Singapore address, this person is also eligible to get an Instarem Singapore account.

Having an Instarem Singapore account is needed to transfer SGD.

Otherwise, without Instarem Singapore account, how can a Malaysian working in Singapore transfer SGD? For this example, let's assume that we do not use Transferwise. Let's try to get everything done, within Instarem.

Instarem PTE Limited (the holding company of InstaReM subsidiaries such as Instarem Malaysia and Instarem Singapore) should give Malaysians the ability to transfer MYR and SGD, within single unified Instarem account, provided that these Malaysians have the necessary identifications in both countries. The same goes for any nationalities who have identifications in two countries.

This single unified Instarem account can be used either as Instarem Malaysia account, or as a Instarem Singapore account.
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Since they want to impose such restriction, simple je. I find another fintech without such restrictions. Lots of fintech in Singapore vs Malaysia.
But so far only one company can accept Malaysian without any restriction.

If you don't have transferwisw, Cimb is a good options. Rates are not bad.

Ramjade
post Dec 14 2019, 12:58 PM

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QUOTE(moosset @ Dec 13 2019, 08:30 PM)
I converted HKD to USD and now that transaction still shows in my portfolio USD/HKD. How to remove it?
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Cannot remove. Need to use program TWS. Select fxconv. By default they use ideal pro.
Ramjade
post Dec 15 2019, 12:17 AM

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QUOTE(nbafans99 @ Dec 14 2019, 11:01 PM)
Normally how long would it take to get TSG account approved ya?
My application and my funding was done around 28 Nov, until now it's pending status...
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Did you fund it?
If yes how did you fund it? Local transfer or TT?
Ramjade
post Dec 17 2019, 11:24 PM

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QUOTE(esthercpl @ Dec 17 2019, 09:06 AM)
hi all sifu sifu, my IBKR account just approved. May i know how can i check whether is white label or not? because when i open account, there's no product for me to choose.
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Not sifu.
Depends on which website you sign up for in the first place.
It can be found under statements.
Ramjade
post Dec 25 2019, 06:28 PM

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QUOTE(moosset @ Dec 25 2019, 02:04 PM)
thanks!!

I kinda understand the algorithm, but I'm sure about the fees. TradeStation Global also didn't mention anything about this algorithm fees.
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Just use one platform or less you are going to get confused.
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post Feb 5 2020, 09:37 PM

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QUOTE(DiamondRuby @ Feb 5 2020, 03:26 PM)
Hello, Sifu

Need some advice on the margin requirement@IBKR.

As I saw, if I send money to IBKR(in SGD) I dont convert to USD.
Rephase: Means, I keep my cash in SGD, but trade with the (visual) amount in USD, (the column in Total in USD)

I compare against buying power & the Inital margin also not much changes(Total in USD).

Hence, Why we want to convert ? Keep SGD also good mah, can save X-rate commision fees ...

please advice if  IBKR occurs hidden charges, if I trade with SGD?
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Yes you will get charged. That's why is best to trade in that currency of that instrument.
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post Feb 7 2020, 09:05 PM

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QUOTE(nbafans99 @ Feb 7 2020, 07:08 PM)
Two quick Q here.

1. May I know how can we exchange SGD in IB into USD please?

2. For those open account via TSG, do you use IB app or TSG app for trading and why?
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1. https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/3396549/+980

2. IB desktop/webpage/portal. Have your pick. For what I want to use TSG? I am dealing everything with IB. Might as well use IB. Whitelabels are only a stepping stone for me to pure IB.
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post Feb 13 2020, 10:09 AM

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QUOTE(sukhwin79 @ Feb 13 2020, 12:49 AM)
Hi guys, having gone thru this thread, the most popular way to transfer funds to IBKR seems to be:

instarem(MYR) -> SG CIMB FastSaver(SGD) -> IBKR (SGD) -> IBKR (convert USD/HKD)

A couple of questions:

a) must it only be SG CIMB Fastsaver? Would SG M2U account work in this case?

b) What if I already have my funds in USD account in MY, what you reckon wld be the best way to transfer it into IBKR US? At first I though of doing MY bank (USD Acc)>TransferWise>IBKR (I have encountered problems in the past when trying to transfer direct from MY bank to IBKR). Then I thought this would not save me any money coz the cost to transfer to TransferWise would be the same if I transfer directly into IBKR.
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Cause most people have Cimb sg? If you have maybank SG, by all means go ahead. Only don't use Malaysian banks to try to deposit your money. Reasons.
1. Most Malaysia banks interactive broker. There's like an unofficial law to block it because it deal with forex.
2. Even if you can get past the blockage, you already lose min 3% to Malaysian banks.

IBKR does not accept transferwise in USD. Only way is instarem them EUR. They accept that.
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post Feb 13 2020, 12:37 PM

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QUOTE(sukhwin79 @ Feb 13 2020, 12:01 PM)
Do u know if they accept TransferWise in any other currency if not USD? Because their FAQ states;

"While it is possible to deposit funds from this money transmitter, the transfer would need to meet the following conditions:

    The funds would need to originate from an account titled the same as the IBKR account;
    The deposit payment details would need to include your account ID and title.

Based upon prior experience, Transferwise generally does not include the required information in the payment details and, if this is the case, the funds will be returned as unidentified."
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So far only instsrem via EUR works. Others not tested.
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post Feb 13 2020, 01:35 PM

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QUOTE(sukhwin79 @ Feb 13 2020, 01:26 PM)
OK, will find out if this is a viable option. Need to find out if can open USD acc in SG. I have SGD acc with Maybank. Will enquire with them first.
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You can forget about using USD account in Singapore. Is totally useless. You can't move or transfer USD unless you do it physically at the branch.
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post Feb 17 2020, 12:58 AM

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QUOTE(echoesian @ Feb 16 2020, 11:30 PM)
Wanted to ask, why don’t just transfer USD from a local bank USD account to Interactive Broker?
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Most Malaysian banks block transacrion when it comes with interactive broker.
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post Feb 17 2020, 10:10 AM

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QUOTE(powerlinkers @ Feb 17 2020, 01:03 AM)
Got through with Bank Islam. It might boil down to your declaration, I don't trade forex and only shares .

I needed to cover margin call in a short time period, sent around 2 pm(Malaysian time), funded by 8pm(malaysian time), before US markets opened.

I would have looked for other options if time was not the essence.
IB charged me around US$20 for a transfer(probably citibank USA for the wire-the US$20 fees is additional to Malaysian local bank fees. ) and rates were not as competitive as CIMB MY>CIMB Singapore>IB transfer method.
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Wow bank Islam could get through when maybank can't. Is not about buying international share. The moment banks hear that you are transferring money to interactive broker, they tell you cannot transfer (most banks in Malaysia)

QUOTE(moosset @ Feb 17 2020, 01:08 AM)
wow!! Of all banks, bank Islam? very unexpected!  thumbup.gif

is it internet banking or over the counter?
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Agreed. When bank Islam could and maybank couldn't.

QUOTE(powerlinkers @ Feb 17 2020, 06:47 AM)
true, bloody expensive due to their exchange rates.

what is the cheapest method in your opinion to withdraw money from interactive brokers to Malaysia?

I have gone through the threads, suggestion being: IB(SGD)-> CIMB(SG)->CIMB MYR -- > Just wish to clarify whether this is the cheapest method with the best rates?
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Never ever use Malaysians banks to fund Interacrive broker. You will lose more money.

Sadly that's the only way. Other way is have a US bank account and get a fintech from US site. The nearest US territory is hawaii or Guam.
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post Feb 17 2020, 07:15 PM

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QUOTE(andrewlimkn @ Feb 17 2020, 05:52 PM)
I have been using Maybank for my USD trades. True that the brokerage is a bit high. Recently i found out that i can use Transferwise to transfer USD to their local USD account to cut a bit on the foreign exchange conversion.

IMHO the fact is the brokerage fees is really negligible if you take into account the price movements of the stock from one minute to the next... but then every cent saved is still money right..

I am trying to explore using IB/ Tradestation Global now. After what i read in this thread, basically we can't use Transferwise/other fintech services to transfer direct USD to IB right? It seems like a lot of trouble to do the multi currency conversion process (to SGD or other currency). And you have to use the same process for withdrawals right?

My questions to those who have been using IB

1) Are you allowed to make a trade before funds are in? (up to certain amount based on your existing assets). Local broker usually allows that but it usually has to settled within next day T + 1 (used to be T + 2)

2) How long the funds transfer process usually take (based on your low fee multi currency approach) to go into the IB account?

Reason is have you ever consider idle cash sitting in IB's account while you wait to make a trade? These funds have
an opportunity cost e.g. interest bearing when placed in your loan flexi account.
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What trouble?
Send money to SG using click of mouse button. Money appear like 30-2h later. Rate is as good as money changer.
Form there do a IBFT like transfer into IB. Money appears like in 10-20minutrs if office hours. Then convert SGD at spot rate (real freaking exchange rate) at USD2/exchange.
My overseas commission is basically USD1.xx-2.xx/transaction.
My money is one way ticket.he doesn't get converted to RM. It stays as foreign currency.

Can if you are using margin. Otherwise topup first then only can buy.

Of course I have thought about it. Hence eI only transferred money into IB when there are things to buy. Otherwise keep in high yield account in SG or MMF. Of course SG account give like 1.xx% interest. Can't compare with Malaysian interest. But you can't compare depreciation of RM vs SGD too.

This post has been edited by Ramjade: Feb 17 2020, 07:16 PM
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post Feb 17 2020, 08:01 PM

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QUOTE(andrewlimkn @ Feb 17 2020, 07:36 PM)
Ok thanks for the insight. Have you transferred any stocks to IB before from a local Malaysian broker? What are the charges if any?

I should also think of disposing them through IB now
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Don't know the charge. No charge from Interactive broker site. But sure Malaysian site will charge hefty amount.

QUOTE(andrewlimkn @ Feb 17 2020, 07:47 PM)
So to confirm can transfer SGD directly to IB (SGD) using instrarem without a need to open a SG acc?
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Not sure. Never try. Not going to try. Don't want my money to stuck in limbo.

QUOTE(dwRK @ Feb 17 2020, 07:50 PM)
nope. funds must be available before trading
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Actually can. Kena charged interest only for margin account.
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post Feb 18 2020, 12:16 AM

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QUOTE(andrewlimkn @ Feb 17 2020, 11:15 PM)
I tried to sign up for Instarem but got stuck at the picture verification page coz it couldn't work on my mobile phone! (iphone)... doesnt give much confidence to trust your money with them..

What about Transferwise SGD to IB?
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What the hell? Stuck because of using iPhone and refuse to trust it?
Come on. There's a reason most transaction should be done on a computer.
If you like paying more to banks be my guest.
All this time instarem have serve me very well.

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